Ohio.... is... Lost to Democrats

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Don't shoot the messenger...I'm trying to be as gentle as possible....:eusa_shifty:


I recommend Democrats gathering together, having a group hug, then reading this and having a good sniveling session... together


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Ohio.... 2010 election results


The defeat of Gov. Ted Strickland by John Kasich, a Republican, was one of the most painful outcomes of the election for Democrats and President Obama, who campaigned repeatedly in Ohio, as did Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and former President Bill Clinton.

The ouster of 5 of the 10 Democrats serving in Ohio’s 18-member Congressional delegation also caused Democrats plenty of heartburn.

But a string of other local Republican victories in the state could hurt Democrats for years to come.

Republicans defeated Democrats in all major races for statewide office, putting them in control of the once-a-decade redrawing of Ohio’s legislative and Congressional districts, scheduled to begin next year.

The five member board that draws Ohio’s district boundaries — with the clout to gerrymander them to favor the party in power — includes the governor, secretary of state, auditor, and a legislator from each party. Following Tuesday’s vote, four of the officeholders wielding that powerful pen will be Republicans.

http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/results/ohio
 
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The article basically says that the current republican state government can redraw Congressional districts in such a way that Ohio will become a red state. Dennis Kucinich lost his district to another democrat when their districts were merged.

There's a state issue on the ballot that removes partisan participation in redistricting and designs the 18 districts more fairly.
 
Gerrymandering is a time honored system of fixing elections.

Ohio won't be special if it happens there.

Most of this nation has been gerrymandered by both parties in such a way that one party or the other has dominance over congressional districts.
 
Gerrymandering is a time honored system of fixing elections.

Ohio won't be special if it happens there.

Most of this nation has been gerrymandered by both parties in such a way that one party or the other has dominance over congressional districts.

Welcome to California...
 
Gerrymandering is essentially a partisan political (but legal) effort by the Party more in power to "rig" the districts to favor their own Party's future election outcomes.

When THEY do it to us, we are disgusted by them.

But when it's time for payback, and it gets "done" unto THEM, they are aghast at such inherently evil and undeniable efforts to rig elections.

All that said, the point Lumpy was making is that the GOP won HUGE in 201o and (assuming the gerrymandering then actually did take place), the outcome of the 2012 elections might be tipped BECAUSE of the gerrymandering.

Which raises the big question. After the 2010 massive GOP win in Ohio, was there any gerrymandering efforts to re-draw the district lines ever made? If so, what was the result?
 
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Gerrymandering is a time honored system of fixing elections.

Ohio won't be special if it happens there.

Most of this nation has been gerrymandered by both parties in such a way that one party or the other has dominance over congressional districts.

Welcome to California...

Except California did something about it.

We Draw the Lines
 
I'm beginning to think Romney can win without Ohio. I know the conventional wisdom says he can't. But from what i'm seeing, it's looking very possible.
 
Willard is lost without Ohio.

Not necessarily. Wisconsin is Romney bound, as is Florida, VA, and NC. Romney can lose Ohio, but manage a victory by pulling out Colorado. Obama must win Ohio and Colorado.

On the other hand, a double spoiler could give us an electoral tie if Ohio goes to Obama. If Wisconsin goes to Obama, but Nevada goes to Romney, we could end up with a tie. Remember, Maine assigns EC votes by district results. Reports have indicated that Maine will split 3-1 for Obama, but that one vote would make the difference between an Obama win and a tie. A vote by the House would likely go to Romney.
 

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