Oh Canada, thou art screwed

Deport all the Muslims, painful as that would be, and then you don't need to have a pervasive security system monitoring everyone. Cure your cancer, painful as it may be, and you can live a good life thereafter.

If you think the government's actions...either here or in Canada, have anything to do with Hadj or the War on a Noun, I'd like to know what color the sky is in your world.
What stopped Trudeau from making permanent the state of affairs created by invoking the War Measures Act?

I am ignorant of much of Canada's political history, so you'll have to answer your own question there my friend.
The October Crisis:

The October Crisis (French: La crise d'Octobre) was a series of events triggered by two kidnappings of government officials by members of the Front de libération du Québec (FLQ) during October 1970 in the province of Quebec, mainly in the Montreal metropolitan area.

The circumstances ultimately culminated in the only peacetime use of the War Measures Act in Canada's history, invoked by Governor General of Canada Roland Michener at the direction of Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, having been requested by the Premier of Quebec, Robert Bourassa, and the Mayor of Montreal, Jean Drapeau.

The invocation of the act took place at the same time as the widespread deployment of Canadian Forces troops throughout Quebec and in Ottawa, under separate legislation, giving the appearance that martial law had been imposed, although the military remained in a support role to the civil authorities of Quebec. The police were also enabled with far-reaching powers, and they arrested and detained, without bail, 497 individuals, all but 62 of whom were later released without charges.​
 
Deport all the Muslims, painful as that would be, and then you don't need to have a pervasive security system monitoring everyone. Cure your cancer, painful as it may be, and you can live a good life thereafter.

If you think the government's actions...either here or in Canada, have anything to do with Hadj or the War on a Noun, I'd like to know what color the sky is in your world.
What stopped Trudeau from making permanent the state of affairs created by invoking the War Measures Act?

I am ignorant of much of Canada's political history, so you'll have to answer your own question there my friend.
The October Crisis:

The October Crisis (French: La crise d'Octobre) was a series of events triggered by two kidnappings of government officials by members of the Front de libération du Québec (FLQ) during October 1970 in the province of Quebec, mainly in the Montreal metropolitan area.

The circumstances ultimately culminated in the only peacetime use of the War Measures Act in Canada's history, invoked by Governor General of Canada Roland Michener at the direction of Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, having been requested by the Premier of Quebec, Robert Bourassa, and the Mayor of Montreal, Jean Drapeau.

The invocation of the act took place at the same time as the widespread deployment of Canadian Forces troops throughout Quebec and in Ottawa, under separate legislation, giving the appearance that martial law had been imposed, although the military remained in a support role to the civil authorities of Quebec. The police were also enabled with far-reaching powers, and they arrested and detained, without bail, 497 individuals, all but 62 of whom were later released without charges.​

Ah, I see. Similar to our own perpetual states of emergency

Special report America s perpetual state of emergency
WASHINGTON — The United States is in a perpetual state of national emergency.

Thirty separate emergencies, in fact.

An emergency declared by President Jimmy Carter on the 10th day of the Iranian hostage crisis in 1979 remains in effect almost 35 years later.

A post-9/11 state of national emergency declared by President George W. Bush — and renewed six times by President Obama — forms the legal basis for much of the war on terror.

Tuesday, President Obama informed Congress he was extending another Bush-era emergency for another year, saying "widespread violence and atrocities" in the Democratic Republic of Congo "pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the foreign policy of the United States."
 
Deport all the Muslims, painful as that would be, and then you don't need to have a pervasive security system monitoring everyone. Cure your cancer, painful as it may be, and you can live a good life thereafter.
Why? There is always another 'enemy', even if you did that, the government would still keep it in place and just target unions and communist organizations till they can find a new enemy.

Why treat your cancer, that just increases the probability that you'll die of heart disease or from a fall in your bathroom.
Cancer can go away if you flood the room with radiation, but you won't survive the operation intact.

Kicking out Muslims is like a high dose of radiation?
Maybe you should cut down on your daylight drinking?
 
Deport all the Muslims, painful as that would be, and then you don't need to have a pervasive security system monitoring everyone. Cure your cancer, painful as it may be, and you can live a good life thereafter.

If you think the government's actions...either here or in Canada, have anything to do with Hadj or the War on a Noun, I'd like to know what color the sky is in your world.
What stopped Trudeau from making permanent the state of affairs created by invoking the War Measures Act?

I am ignorant of much of Canada's political history, so you'll have to answer your own question there my friend.
The October Crisis:

The October Crisis (French: La crise d'Octobre) was a series of events triggered by two kidnappings of government officials by members of the Front de libération du Québec (FLQ) during October 1970 in the province of Quebec, mainly in the Montreal metropolitan area.

The circumstances ultimately culminated in the only peacetime use of the War Measures Act in Canada's history, invoked by Governor General of Canada Roland Michener at the direction of Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, having been requested by the Premier of Quebec, Robert Bourassa, and the Mayor of Montreal, Jean Drapeau.

The invocation of the act took place at the same time as the widespread deployment of Canadian Forces troops throughout Quebec and in Ottawa, under separate legislation, giving the appearance that martial law had been imposed, although the military remained in a support role to the civil authorities of Quebec. The police were also enabled with far-reaching powers, and they arrested and detained, without bail, 497 individuals, all but 62 of whom were later released without charges.​

Ah, I see. Similar to our own perpetual states of emergency

Special report America s perpetual state of emergency
WASHINGTON — The United States is in a perpetual state of national emergency.

Thirty separate emergencies, in fact.

An emergency declared by President Jimmy Carter on the 10th day of the Iranian hostage crisis in 1979 remains in effect almost 35 years later.

A post-9/11 state of national emergency declared by President George W. Bush — and renewed six times by President Obama — forms the legal basis for much of the war on terror.

Tuesday, President Obama informed Congress he was extending another Bush-era emergency for another year, saying "widespread violence and atrocities" in the Democratic Republic of Congo "pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the foreign policy of the United States."

Not quite. The War Measures Act was invoked to deal with a crisis and then revoked. Why was it revoked? By your model it shouldn't have been revoked. Government should be maximizing it's authoritarian tools and methods at every opportunity. That's not what happened.
 
If you think the government's actions...either here or in Canada, have anything to do with Hadj or the War on a Noun, I'd like to know what color the sky is in your world.
What stopped Trudeau from making permanent the state of affairs created by invoking the War Measures Act?

I am ignorant of much of Canada's political history, so you'll have to answer your own question there my friend.
The October Crisis:

The October Crisis (French: La crise d'Octobre) was a series of events triggered by two kidnappings of government officials by members of the Front de libération du Québec (FLQ) during October 1970 in the province of Quebec, mainly in the Montreal metropolitan area.

The circumstances ultimately culminated in the only peacetime use of the War Measures Act in Canada's history, invoked by Governor General of Canada Roland Michener at the direction of Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, having been requested by the Premier of Quebec, Robert Bourassa, and the Mayor of Montreal, Jean Drapeau.

The invocation of the act took place at the same time as the widespread deployment of Canadian Forces troops throughout Quebec and in Ottawa, under separate legislation, giving the appearance that martial law had been imposed, although the military remained in a support role to the civil authorities of Quebec. The police were also enabled with far-reaching powers, and they arrested and detained, without bail, 497 individuals, all but 62 of whom were later released without charges.​

Ah, I see. Similar to our own perpetual states of emergency

Special report America s perpetual state of emergency
WASHINGTON — The United States is in a perpetual state of national emergency.

Thirty separate emergencies, in fact.

An emergency declared by President Jimmy Carter on the 10th day of the Iranian hostage crisis in 1979 remains in effect almost 35 years later.

A post-9/11 state of national emergency declared by President George W. Bush — and renewed six times by President Obama — forms the legal basis for much of the war on terror.

Tuesday, President Obama informed Congress he was extending another Bush-era emergency for another year, saying "widespread violence and atrocities" in the Democratic Republic of Congo "pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the foreign policy of the United States."

Not quite. The War Measures Act was invoked to deal with a crisis and then revoked. Why was it revoked? By your model it shouldn't have been revoked. Government should be maximizing it's authoritarian tools and methods at every opportunity. That's not what happened.

Sorry, I kinda start thinking like Betty White when it's getting close to dinner time. ;)

Many of Lincoln's temporary measures were rolled back too, but just because something was rolled back by a past government is no guarantee that a present or future government will do the same. Patriot Act is one good example, as is Jackson's destruction of the predecessor to the Federal Reserve. While we can learn from history, we cannot depend on it to repeat itself.
 
What stopped Trudeau from making permanent the state of affairs created by invoking the War Measures Act?

I am ignorant of much of Canada's political history, so you'll have to answer your own question there my friend.
The October Crisis:

The October Crisis (French: La crise d'Octobre) was a series of events triggered by two kidnappings of government officials by members of the Front de libération du Québec (FLQ) during October 1970 in the province of Quebec, mainly in the Montreal metropolitan area.

The circumstances ultimately culminated in the only peacetime use of the War Measures Act in Canada's history, invoked by Governor General of Canada Roland Michener at the direction of Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, having been requested by the Premier of Quebec, Robert Bourassa, and the Mayor of Montreal, Jean Drapeau.

The invocation of the act took place at the same time as the widespread deployment of Canadian Forces troops throughout Quebec and in Ottawa, under separate legislation, giving the appearance that martial law had been imposed, although the military remained in a support role to the civil authorities of Quebec. The police were also enabled with far-reaching powers, and they arrested and detained, without bail, 497 individuals, all but 62 of whom were later released without charges.​

Ah, I see. Similar to our own perpetual states of emergency

Special report America s perpetual state of emergency
WASHINGTON — The United States is in a perpetual state of national emergency.

Thirty separate emergencies, in fact.

An emergency declared by President Jimmy Carter on the 10th day of the Iranian hostage crisis in 1979 remains in effect almost 35 years later.

A post-9/11 state of national emergency declared by President George W. Bush — and renewed six times by President Obama — forms the legal basis for much of the war on terror.

Tuesday, President Obama informed Congress he was extending another Bush-era emergency for another year, saying "widespread violence and atrocities" in the Democratic Republic of Congo "pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the foreign policy of the United States."

Not quite. The War Measures Act was invoked to deal with a crisis and then revoked. Why was it revoked? By your model it shouldn't have been revoked. Government should be maximizing it's authoritarian tools and methods at every opportunity. That's not what happened.

Sorry, I kinda start thinking like Betty White when it's getting close to dinner time. ;)

Many of Lincoln's temporary measures were rolled back too, but just because something was rolled back by a past government is no guarantee that a present or future government will do the same. Patriot Act is one good example, as is Jackson's destruction of the predecessor to the Federal Reserve. While we can learn from history, we cannot depend on it to repeat itself.

The Canada of the past, the American of the past, those societies, those people, are no more. The Patriot Act exists because we have Muslims traitors within our midst. We had a miniscule Muslim presence in America prior to 1965. Same with Canada. A homogeneous culture has higher trust levels than a heterogeneous culture. America in 1960 was far more unified than America in 2014. When you have traitors living amongst you, then the State needs to monitor citizens. When everyone in society is helping to row the boat in the same direction, then the State doesn't need to monitor its citizens.

Iceland doesn't monitor it's citizens because the LARGEST visible minority group in the country are Thais, all 523 of them. The country has only 770 Muslims and many of those are Icelanders who registered as Muslims in order to protest anti-Islamic views held by the majority of Icelanders. Idiotic leftists are the same all over the world.

The point is that the Patriot Act and multiculturalism go hand in hand. Fix our multiculturalism problem and we can do away with the Patriot Act. It's difficult to have Islamic Terrorism in the US if there are no Muslims within the US, kind of like how it's impossible for a man to give birth to a child because men don't have a uterus.
 
Deport all the Muslims, painful as that would be, and then you don't need to have a pervasive security system monitoring everyone. Cure your cancer, painful as it may be, and you can live a good life thereafter.
Why? There is always another 'enemy', even if you did that, the government would still keep it in place and just target unions and communist organizations till they can find a new enemy.

Why treat your cancer, that just increases the probability that you'll die of heart disease or from a fall in your bathroom.
Cancer can go away if you flood the room with radiation, but you won't survive the operation intact.
True cancer treatment is a controlled loss program.something must be given up for success to be achieved
 
Deport all the Muslims, painful as that would be, and then you don't need to have a pervasive security system monitoring everyone. Cure your cancer, painful as it may be, and you can live a good life thereafter.
Why? There is always another 'enemy', even if you did that, the government would still keep it in place and just target unions and communist organizations till they can find a new enemy.

Why treat your cancer, that just increases the probability that you'll die of heart disease or from a fall in your bathroom.
Cancer can go away if you flood the room with radiation, but you won't survive the operation intact.

Kicking out Muslims is like a high dose of radiation?
Maybe you should cut down on your daylight drinking?

Doesn't matter. You can't do that in These United States. To even suggest you can do it is pure ignorance.
 
Deport all the Muslims, painful as that would be, and then you don't need to have a pervasive security system monitoring everyone. Cure your cancer, painful as it may be, and you can live a good life thereafter.
Why? There is always another 'enemy', even if you did that, the government would still keep it in place and just target unions and communist organizations till they can find a new enemy.

Why treat your cancer, that just increases the probability that you'll die of heart disease or from a fall in your bathroom.
Cancer can go away if you flood the room with radiation, but you won't survive the operation intact.

Kicking out Muslims is like a high dose of radiation?
Maybe you should cut down on your daylight drinking?

Doesn't matter. You can't do that in These United States. To even suggest you can do it is pure ignorance.

If the homosexual "marriage" debate has taught us anything it's that "Anything Is Possible."
 
Canada to speed up plans to toughen security laws PM Harper Reuters
(Reuters) - Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said on Thursday the government will expedite plans to give more powers of detention and surveillance to security agencies in the wake of an attack on Parliament.

No way anybody could have seen this coming, right? Can't let a good tragedy go to waste.

Some dumbass commits a "terrorist" act and the honest, taxpaying citizens get pinched. Sounds like Canada is following America's queue. Using their logic, all citizens of Canada and America should be under house arrest sometime in the near future.

And the sad fact is, there's no evidence it was a "terrorist act". There's no indication at all what they guy's motives were. Opportunism strikes again.

CONTROL!!!! That's the bottom line.
 
Why? There is always another 'enemy', even if you did that, the government would still keep it in place and just target unions and communist organizations till they can find a new enemy.

Why treat your cancer, that just increases the probability that you'll die of heart disease or from a fall in your bathroom.
Cancer can go away if you flood the room with radiation, but you won't survive the operation intact.

Kicking out Muslims is like a high dose of radiation?
Maybe you should cut down on your daylight drinking?

Doesn't matter. You can't do that in These United States. To even suggest you can do it is pure ignorance.

If the homosexual "marriage" debate has taught us anything it's that "Anything Is Possible."

Yup. The will of the People is totally insignificant. That's the loud-and-clear control message.
 
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Canada to speed up plans to toughen security laws PM Harper Reuters
(Reuters) - Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said on Thursday the government will expedite plans to give more powers of detention and surveillance to security agencies in the wake of an attack on Parliament.

No way anybody could have seen this coming, right? Can't let a good tragedy go to waste.

Some dumbass commits a "terrorist" act and the honest, taxpaying citizens get pinched. Sounds like Canada is following America's queue. Using their logic, all citizens of Canada and America should be under house arrest sometime in the near future.

And the sad fact is, there's no evidence it was a "terrorist act". There's no indication at all what they guy's motives were. Opportunism strikes again.

Seriously, no evidence ?
 
Deport all the Muslims, painful as that would be, and then you don't need to have a pervasive security system monitoring everyone. Cure your cancer, painful as it may be, and you can live a good life thereafter.

Painful to who ? It sure the hell wouldn't be to me.
 
I am ignorant of much of Canada's political history, so you'll have to answer your own question there my friend.
The October Crisis:

The October Crisis (French: La crise d'Octobre) was a series of events triggered by two kidnappings of government officials by members of the Front de libération du Québec (FLQ) during October 1970 in the province of Quebec, mainly in the Montreal metropolitan area.

The circumstances ultimately culminated in the only peacetime use of the War Measures Act in Canada's history, invoked by Governor General of Canada Roland Michener at the direction of Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, having been requested by the Premier of Quebec, Robert Bourassa, and the Mayor of Montreal, Jean Drapeau.

The invocation of the act took place at the same time as the widespread deployment of Canadian Forces troops throughout Quebec and in Ottawa, under separate legislation, giving the appearance that martial law had been imposed, although the military remained in a support role to the civil authorities of Quebec. The police were also enabled with far-reaching powers, and they arrested and detained, without bail, 497 individuals, all but 62 of whom were later released without charges.​

Ah, I see. Similar to our own perpetual states of emergency

Special report America s perpetual state of emergency
WASHINGTON — The United States is in a perpetual state of national emergency.

Thirty separate emergencies, in fact.

An emergency declared by President Jimmy Carter on the 10th day of the Iranian hostage crisis in 1979 remains in effect almost 35 years later.

A post-9/11 state of national emergency declared by President George W. Bush — and renewed six times by President Obama — forms the legal basis for much of the war on terror.

Tuesday, President Obama informed Congress he was extending another Bush-era emergency for another year, saying "widespread violence and atrocities" in the Democratic Republic of Congo "pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the foreign policy of the United States."

Not quite. The War Measures Act was invoked to deal with a crisis and then revoked. Why was it revoked? By your model it shouldn't have been revoked. Government should be maximizing it's authoritarian tools and methods at every opportunity. That's not what happened.

Sorry, I kinda start thinking like Betty White when it's getting close to dinner time. ;)

Many of Lincoln's temporary measures were rolled back too, but just because something was rolled back by a past government is no guarantee that a present or future government will do the same. Patriot Act is one good example, as is Jackson's destruction of the predecessor to the Federal Reserve. While we can learn from history, we cannot depend on it to repeat itself.

The Canada of the past, the American of the past, those societies, those people, are no more. The Patriot Act exists because we have Muslims traitors within our midst. We had a miniscule Muslim presence in America prior to 1965. Same with Canada. A homogeneous culture has higher trust levels than a heterogeneous culture. America in 1960 was far more unified than America in 2014. When you have traitors living amongst you, then the State needs to monitor citizens. When everyone in society is helping to row the boat in the same direction, then the State doesn't need to monitor its citizens.

Iceland doesn't monitor it's citizens because the LARGEST visible minority group in the country are Thais, all 523 of them. The country has only 770 Muslims and many of those are Icelanders who registered as Muslims in order to protest anti-Islamic views held by the majority of Icelanders. Idiotic leftists are the same all over the world.

The point is that the Patriot Act and multiculturalism go hand in hand. Fix our multiculturalism problem and we can do away with the Patriot Act. It's difficult to have Islamic Terrorism in the US if there are no Muslims within the US, kind of like how it's impossible for a man to give birth to a child because men don't have a uterus.

Sorry, but blaming Hadj for the excesses of this government is like blaming the Jews for the excesses of the Hitler's German government. We can deal with Hadj without infringing upon the rights that are our birthright. You will find that is a non-negotiable item with me.
 

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