Official USMB Shutdown Showdown Thread --- Week of Jan 14th, 2019

[eagle1462010]

Oh. I thought you cared about what happened to them. If you did, you'd call Pelosi and Schumer's office and demand they end this government shutdown.

Shouldn't you be calling Trump - and Mexico?

Trump never said Mexico was going to write a check for the wall. Now,k why would I call Trump? He has said he would open up the government when Pelosi and Schumer provide money for a border barrier. He is willing to open the government. Are Pelosi and Schumer? Have you called them and asked them if they want to open the government?

BTW, don't think I didn't notice that you didn't claim you cared about the people who are out of work right now.

Exactly how are they going to pay the US government to build the wall? The trade deal? Congress has not approved it and neither Canada nor Mexico has given financially approval. Furthermore there is no payments in the deal to US government. It's just another one of Trump's lies.

When Mexico starts send money to build the wall, then we should start building it. Till then, Hello No.

Again, no one said that they would cut us a check. However, to stay on topic. The Congress, specifically the house, is responsible for funding ALL of the government. Including the necessary security at our southern border. That necessary security includes an addition to the physical barrier already in place. Barriers that the Democrats were more than willing to spend money on just a few years ago.

So, let's worry about exacting our ounce of flesh from Mexico when we have those 800k workers back to work, eh?

The democrats supported a bill to build reinforce fences, repair exist fences and walls, hire thousands of boarder patrol, and purchase new technology in 2006. At that time, arrests at the border were running 81,000/mo. Today they are half that. In 2006, the size of the undocumented immigrant population was rising. Today it's falling and has been for a number of years.

2.3 Trillion for that fence over a period of 10 years.............And people wonder why it never got finished and pregnant women at 9 months climbing it............LOL

It was a joke.

 

[eagle1462010]

Trump never said Mexico was going to write a check for the wall. Now,k why would I call Trump? He has said he would open up the government when Pelosi and Schumer provide money for a border barrier. He is willing to open the government. Are Pelosi and Schumer? Have you called them and asked them if they want to open the government?

BTW, don't think I didn't notice that you didn't claim you cared about the people who are out of work right now.

Exactly how are they going to pay the US government to build the wall? The trade deal? Congress has not approved it and neither Canada nor Mexico has given financially approval. Furthermore there is no payments in the deal to US government. It's just another one of Trump's lies.

When Mexico starts send money to build the wall, then we should start building it. Till then, Hello No.

Again, no one said that they would cut us a check. However, to stay on topic. The Congress, specifically the house, is responsible for funding ALL of the government. Including the necessary security at our southern border. That necessary security includes an addition to the physical barrier already in place. Barriers that the Democrats were more than willing to spend money on just a few years ago.

So, let's worry about exacting our ounce of flesh from Mexico when we have those 800k workers back to work, eh?

Trump said Mexico would write a check for the wall. Why do you keep lying about that?

Trump Denied He Said Mexico Would Write a Check for the Wall — But He Did

Because he didn't. Why do you keep lying about that? Is English your second language or something?

Snopes and many other smart people say he did. Stop lying.

His plan was laid out before he ever made office.........and it showed how he expected to get them to do so..............But was a great Catch Slogan...........that the left love to attack.............

Doesn't matter............cutting immigration numbers saves us money.....Dems don't want that...........they want Amnesty on STEROIDS........and a flood coming through.......they don't even want to address the forgery of IRS SSN's in this country in Full violation of our laws in this country.......which was the path around Reagan's 1986 plan.............all they say............see.......it's good for America that they pay taxes........even though it's via FAKE DOCUMENTS.

Then in the next sentence...........Illegals don't vote.......even though they are working with Forged SSN's............Boogles the mind to the lengths the LEFT will LIE..............It is about POWER..............Change the Demographics of this country to new voters for the Unhinged LEFT.............then they will shove their liberal agenda down our throats........

Then ........well.........we are going to have a serious disagreement in this country.

 

[Flopper]

Shouldn't you be calling Trump - and Mexico?

Trump never said Mexico was going to write a check for the wall. Now,k why would I call Trump? He has said he would open up the government when Pelosi and Schumer provide money for a border barrier. He is willing to open the government. Are Pelosi and Schumer? Have you called them and asked them if they want to open the government?

BTW, don't think I didn't notice that you didn't claim you cared about the people who are out of work right now.

Exactly how are they going to pay the US government to build the wall? The trade deal? Congress has not approved it and neither Canada nor Mexico has given financially approval. Furthermore there is no payments in the deal to US government. It's just another one of Trump's lies.

When Mexico starts send money to build the wall, then we should start building it. Till then, Hello No.

Again, no one said that they would cut us a check. However, to stay on topic. The Congress, specifically the house, is responsible for funding ALL of the government. Including the necessary security at our southern border. That necessary security includes an addition to the physical barrier already in place. Barriers that the Democrats were more than willing to spend money on just a few years ago.

So, let's worry about exacting our ounce of flesh from Mexico when we have those 800k workers back to work, eh?

The democrats supported a bill to build reinforce fences, repair exist fences and walls, hire thousands of boarder patrol, and purchase new technology in 2006. At that time, arrests at the border were running 81,000/mo. Today they are half that. In 2006, the size of the undocumented immigrant population was rising. Today it's falling and has been for a number of years.

Good, then another 5.8 billion for additional barrier construction won't matter all that much, will it?

Yes it would because it is the first installment of Homeland Security's border security project which requires a commitment of 40 billion over 10 years and would create a 1000 mile wall.

Secondly, Trump has to have a victory here. Without it his chances of getting another term are very slim. If he get's his wall, he will be on Twitter everyday claiming the end of illegal immigration and thus saving our healthcare system, social security, and welfare, and the elimination of violent crime in America. Pelosi will never agree to that.

However, I think there is a slim possibility of an immigration reform bill which includes Trump's money for his wall. I think it would be difficult for him say no to that.

 

[PoliticalChic]

...and....

Conservatives are conflicted. One commented that it has to be a lie because the official is anonymous, and the other said it just doesn’t matter.

why not fund the wall and call it a day? you didn't care when billions went to other countries for support. why now? oh yeah TDS. keep it shutdown until the 5.7B makes it on a budget. we're cool with the government staying shutdown. are you? at some point someone will need to blink and it won't be trump.

BTW, the dems know what it will take to reopen the government and are doing nothing. and you don't care. it seems you don't care others are not getting paid.

1. Because, having wasted billions on an unnecessary and expensive wall, at a time when the US is running the largest deficits in history, and when there are major issues in the country, like infrastructure spending, education and retraining, and opiod abuse that are not even being mentioned let alone addressed is very foolish, and unwise.

2. Because the Trump Administration is asking for a blank cheque. They haven't done a feasability study, provided cost estimates, a timetable, an environmental impact study, or any of the other standard practices that a member of government must provide when asking for a major appropriation like this. No one can just say to Congress "Give me $5 billion. I want to build a wall". No one. Not even the President.

3. Because the American public just voted a resounding "NO" to the border policies of Donald J. Trump, including building tent cities on the border, detaining asylum seekers at the public's expense.

4, Just the cost estimates of the cost of holding the people currently in detention along the Southern Border until their cases are heard are $5 billion. And holding these people violates their Constitutional rights.

5. And because one should never give into a child's temper tantrum. It makes it all that much more difficult to get him to behave properly the next time he decides to pitch a fit.

their wasting 5.7 Billion with the shutdown, that doesn't seem to be bothering you at all. so excuse me, ahem, you're just confused.

It should be noted that the very same Democrats voted to fund the wall and to the same amount that Trump requests now.

"Sen. Chuck Schumer and then-senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were among a bipartisan majority that voted in favor of the legislation, and it was signed into law by President George W. Bush." Fact check: Did Democrats once support border wall?


And the same amount Trump is asking.

This is what they voted for in 2006:
$4.10 in 2006 → $5.11 in 2018
$4.10 in 2006 → 2018 | Inflation Calculator

 

[Pogo]

Conservatives are conflicted. One commented that it has to be a lie because the official is anonymous, and the other said it just doesn’t matter.

why not fund the wall and call it a day? you didn't care when billions went to other countries for support. why now? oh yeah TDS. keep it shutdown until the 5.7B makes it on a budget. we're cool with the government staying shutdown. are you? at some point someone will need to blink and it won't be trump.

BTW, the dems know what it will take to reopen the government and are doing nothing. and you don't care. it seems you don't care others are not getting paid.

1. Because, having wasted billions on an unnecessary and expensive wall, at a time when the US is running the largest deficits in history, and when there are major issues in the country, like infrastructure spending, education and retraining, and opiod abuse that are not even being mentioned let alone addressed is very foolish, and unwise.

2. Because the Trump Administration is asking for a blank cheque. They haven't done a feasability study, provided cost estimates, a timetable, an environmental impact study, or any of the other standard practices that a member of government must provide when asking for a major appropriation like this. No one can just say to Congress "Give me $5 billion. I want to build a wall". No one. Not even the President.

3. Because the American public just voted a resounding "NO" to the border policies of Donald J. Trump, including building tent cities on the border, detaining asylum seekers at the public's expense.

4, Just the cost estimates of the cost of holding the people currently in detention along the Southern Border until their cases are heard are $5 billion. And holding these people violates their Constitutional rights.

5. And because one should never give into a child's temper tantrum. It makes it all that much more difficult to get him to behave properly the next time he decides to pitch a fit.

their wasting 5.7 Billion with the shutdown, that doesn't seem to be bothering you at all. so excuse me, ahem, you're just confused.

It should be noted that the very same Democrats voted to fund the wall and to the same amount that Trump requests now.

"Sen. Chuck Schumer and then-senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were among a bipartisan majority that voted in favor of the legislation, and it was signed into law by President George W. Bush." Fact check: Did Democrats once support border wall?


And the same amount Trump is asking.

This is what they voted for in 2006:
$4.10 in 2006 → $5.11 in 2018
$4.10 in 2006 → 2018 | Inflation Calculator

Nobody was "against border control". What everybody but Rump and his childish fantasies were against was this juvenile idea of a "wall". An idea that was only supplied to him as a memory device for a scatterbrained unfocused idiot, to give him something to talk about.

You remain a partisan hack.

 

[danielpalos]

Conservatives are conflicted. One commented that it has to be a lie because the official is anonymous, and the other said it just doesn’t matter.

why not fund the wall and call it a day? you didn't care when billions went to other countries for support. why now? oh yeah TDS. keep it shutdown until the 5.7B makes it on a budget. we're cool with the government staying shutdown. are you? at some point someone will need to blink and it won't be trump.

BTW, the dems know what it will take to reopen the government and are doing nothing. and you don't care. it seems you don't care others are not getting paid.

1. Because, having wasted billions on an unnecessary and expensive wall, at a time when the US is running the largest deficits in history, and when there are major issues in the country, like infrastructure spending, education and retraining, and opiod abuse that are not even being mentioned let alone addressed is very foolish, and unwise.

2. Because the Trump Administration is asking for a blank cheque. They haven't done a feasability study, provided cost estimates, a timetable, an environmental impact study, or any of the other standard practices that a member of government must provide when asking for a major appropriation like this. No one can just say to Congress "Give me $5 billion. I want to build a wall". No one. Not even the President.

3. Because the American public just voted a resounding "NO" to the border policies of Donald J. Trump, including building tent cities on the border, detaining asylum seekers at the public's expense.

4, Just the cost estimates of the cost of holding the people currently in detention along the Southern Border until their cases are heard are $5 billion. And holding these people violates their Constitutional rights.

5. And because one should never give into a child's temper tantrum. It makes it all that much more difficult to get him to behave properly the next time he decides to pitch a fit.

their wasting 5.7 Billion with the shutdown, that doesn't seem to be bothering you at all. so excuse me, ahem, you're just confused.

It should be noted that the very same Democrats voted to fund the wall and to the same amount that Trump requests now.

"Sen. Chuck Schumer and then-senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were among a bipartisan majority that voted in favor of the legislation, and it was signed into law by President George W. Bush." Fact check: Did Democrats once support border wall?


And the same amount Trump is asking.

This is what they voted for in 2006:
$4.10 in 2006 → $5.11 in 2018
$4.10 in 2006 → 2018 | Inflation Calculator

We discovered there is no immigration clause and no express wall building power.

Nothing but right wing bigotry; you all don't care about the law or being legal.

 

[jc456]

why not fund the wall and call it a day? you didn't care when billions went to other countries for support. why now? oh yeah TDS. keep it shutdown until the 5.7B makes it on a budget. we're cool with the government staying shutdown. are you? at some point someone will need to blink and it won't be trump.

BTW, the dems know what it will take to reopen the government and are doing nothing. and you don't care. it seems you don't care others are not getting paid.

1. Because, having wasted billions on an unnecessary and expensive wall, at a time when the US is running the largest deficits in history, and when there are major issues in the country, like infrastructure spending, education and retraining, and opiod abuse that are not even being mentioned let alone addressed is very foolish, and unwise.

2. Because the Trump Administration is asking for a blank cheque. They haven't done a feasability study, provided cost estimates, a timetable, an environmental impact study, or any of the other standard practices that a member of government must provide when asking for a major appropriation like this. No one can just say to Congress "Give me $5 billion. I want to build a wall". No one. Not even the President.

3. Because the American public just voted a resounding "NO" to the border policies of Donald J. Trump, including building tent cities on the border, detaining asylum seekers at the public's expense.

4, Just the cost estimates of the cost of holding the people currently in detention along the Southern Border until their cases are heard are $5 billion. And holding these people violates their Constitutional rights.

5. And because one should never give into a child's temper tantrum. It makes it all that much more difficult to get him to behave properly the next time he decides to pitch a fit.

their wasting 5.7 Billion with the shutdown, that doesn't seem to be bothering you at all. so excuse me, ahem, you're just confused.

It should be noted that the very same Democrats voted to fund the wall and to the same amount that Trump requests now.

"Sen. Chuck Schumer and then-senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were among a bipartisan majority that voted in favor of the legislation, and it was signed into law by President George W. Bush." Fact check: Did Democrats once support border wall?


And the same amount Trump is asking.

This is what they voted for in 2006:
$4.10 in 2006 → $5.11 in 2018
$4.10 in 2006 → 2018 | Inflation Calculator

Nobody was "against border control". What everybody but Rump and his childish fantasies were against was this juvenile idea of a "wall". An idea that was only supplied to him as a memory device for a scatterbrained unfocused idiot, to give him something to talk about.

You remain a partisan hack.

says the partisan hack. you know if you call someone one, that makes you one. Immediately. so you're saying walls don't keep people out? Why does Pelosi have one in front of her residence then?

 

[Faun]

1. Because, having wasted billions on an unnecessary and expensive wall, at a time when the US is running the largest deficits in history, and when there are major issues in the country, like infrastructure spending, education and retraining, and opiod abuse that are not even being mentioned let alone addressed is very foolish, and unwise.

2. Because the Trump Administration is asking for a blank cheque. They haven't done a feasability study, provided cost estimates, a timetable, an environmental impact study, or any of the other standard practices that a member of government must provide when asking for a major appropriation like this. No one can just say to Congress "Give me $5 billion. I want to build a wall". No one. Not even the President.

3. Because the American public just voted a resounding "NO" to the border policies of Donald J. Trump, including building tent cities on the border, detaining asylum seekers at the public's expense.

4, Just the cost estimates of the cost of holding the people currently in detention along the Southern Border until their cases are heard are $5 billion. And holding these people violates their Constitutional rights.

5. And because one should never give into a child's temper tantrum. It makes it all that much more difficult to get him to behave properly the next time he decides to pitch a fit.

their wasting 5.7 Billion with the shutdown, that doesn't seem to be bothering you at all. so excuse me, ahem, you're just confused.

It should be noted that the very same Democrats voted to fund the wall and to the same amount that Trump requests now.

"Sen. Chuck Schumer and then-senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were among a bipartisan majority that voted in favor of the legislation, and it was signed into law by President George W. Bush." Fact check: Did Democrats once support border wall?


And the same amount Trump is asking.

This is what they voted for in 2006:
$4.10 in 2006 → $5.11 in 2018
$4.10 in 2006 → 2018 | Inflation Calculator

Nobody was "against border control". What everybody but Rump and his childish fantasies were against was this juvenile idea of a "wall". An idea that was only supplied to him as a memory device for a scatterbrained unfocused idiot, to give him something to talk about.

You remain a partisan hack.

says the partisan hack. you know if you call someone one, that makes you one. Immediately. so you're saying walls don't keep people out? Why does Pelosi have one in front of her residence then?

LOLOL

Laura Loomer proved Pelosi’s wall doesn’t keep anyone out...

Activists Jump Nancy Pelosi’s Mansion Wall With Illegal Immigrants, Demand Entry To Her Home

 

[Dragonlady]

1. Because, having wasted billions on an unnecessary and expensive wall, at a time when the US is running the largest deficits in history, and when there are major issues in the country, like infrastructure spending, education and retraining, and opiod abuse that are not even being mentioned let alone addressed is very foolish, and unwise.

2. Because the Trump Administration is asking for a blank cheque. They haven't done a feasability study, provided cost estimates, a timetable, an environmental impact study, or any of the other standard practices that a member of government must provide when asking for a major appropriation like this. No one can just say to Congress "Give me $5 billion. I want to build a wall". No one. Not even the President.

3. Because the American public just voted a resounding "NO" to the border policies of Donald J. Trump, including building tent cities on the border, detaining asylum seekers at the public's expense.

4, Just the cost estimates of the cost of holding the people currently in detention along the Southern Border until their cases are heard are $5 billion. And holding these people violates their Constitutional rights.

5. And because one should never give into a child's temper tantrum. It makes it all that much more difficult to get him to behave properly the next time he decides to pitch a fit.

their wasting 5.7 Billion with the shutdown, that doesn't seem to be bothering you at all. so excuse me, ahem, you're just confused.

It should be noted that the very same Democrats voted to fund the wall and to the same amount that Trump requests now.

"Sen. Chuck Schumer and then-senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were among a bipartisan majority that voted in favor of the legislation, and it was signed into law by President George W. Bush." Fact check: Did Democrats once support border wall?


And the same amount Trump is asking.

This is what they voted for in 2006:
$4.10 in 2006 → $5.11 in 2018
$4.10 in 2006 → 2018 | Inflation Calculator

Nobody was "against border control". What everybody but Rump and his childish fantasies were against was this juvenile idea of a "wall". An idea that was only supplied to him as a memory device for a scatterbrained unfocused idiot, to give him something to talk about.

You remain a partisan hack.

says the partisan hack. you know if you call someone one, that makes you one. Immediately. so you're saying walls don't keep people out? Why does Pelosi have one in front of her residence then?

She doesn't, but fences and architectural features are hardly the same thing as an armed and fortied wall around your country to keep others out.

The fence around my yard was to keep my children IN the yard, and in fact the gate to the fence wasn't locked. We have four foot fence requirements for swimming pools to keep young children from accidenetally falling in.

Fences have uses, mostly in keeping small children and animals enclosed, but mostly they don't work in keeping out crime, or undesireables. You can fence your garden but the rabbits, the squirrels, and the raccoons are still having salad for dinner.

 

[g5000]

If there is a plane crash or terror attack or some other disaster, Trump will never be able to wash all that blood off his hands.

Nor will McConnell.

These shitbirds need to stop playing their stupid little games. Immediately.

 

[william the wie]

Trump needs to get into the game. OK maybe he should not say the following from the Oval Office but he has proxies and they need to say the following:

Every opponent of the wall is in favor of pedophilia, human trafficking, drugs, extortion, murder for hire, and illegal votes. Why are such sleazebags tolerated?

 

[Lesh]

Trump needs to get into the game. OK maybe he should not say the following from the Oval Office but he has proxies and they need to say the following:

Every opponent of the wall is in favor of pedophilia, human trafficking, drugs, extortion, murder for hire, and illegal votes. Why are such sleazebags tolerated?

Dude...you're out of your fucking mind. That whole screed is a trip to crazy town

 

[Faun]

Trump needs to get into the game. OK maybe he should not say the following from the Oval Office but he has proxies and they need to say the following:

Every opponent of the wall is in favor of pedophilia, human trafficking, drugs, extortion, murder for hire, and illegal votes. Why are such sleazebags tolerated?

Instead of that lunacy, trump is offering to re-open the government for 3 weeks.

 

[Pogo]

Trump needs to get into the game. OK maybe he should not say the following from the Oval Office but he has proxies and they need to say the following:

Every opponent of the wall is in favor of pedophilia, human trafficking, drugs, extortion, murder for hire, and illegal votes. Why are such sleazebags tolerated?

Actually every proponent of the "wall" is in favor of Fearmongering, Strawmanning, assuming facts not in evidence, political pandering, demonization, bullshit, self-delusion, and the tenet "you don't sell products, benefits or solutions (or walls) --- you sell FEELINGS". Why are those sleazebags tolerated?

Why indeed. Aye, there's the rub.

Indeed the orange freak who tried to sell you this "wall" --- who also promised that Mexico would pay for it, you wouldn't ---- is the same asscrack who tried to sell you special personalized vitamins for which you'd mail in your pee. And he didn't even claim Mexico would pay for that.

 

[PoliticalChic]

why not fund the wall and call it a day? you didn't care when billions went to other countries for support. why now? oh yeah TDS. keep it shutdown until the 5.7B makes it on a budget. we're cool with the government staying shutdown. are you? at some point someone will need to blink and it won't be trump.

BTW, the dems know what it will take to reopen the government and are doing nothing. and you don't care. it seems you don't care others are not getting paid.

1. Because, having wasted billions on an unnecessary and expensive wall, at a time when the US is running the largest deficits in history, and when there are major issues in the country, like infrastructure spending, education and retraining, and opiod abuse that are not even being mentioned let alone addressed is very foolish, and unwise.

2. Because the Trump Administration is asking for a blank cheque. They haven't done a feasability study, provided cost estimates, a timetable, an environmental impact study, or any of the other standard practices that a member of government must provide when asking for a major appropriation like this. No one can just say to Congress "Give me $5 billion. I want to build a wall". No one. Not even the President.

3. Because the American public just voted a resounding "NO" to the border policies of Donald J. Trump, including building tent cities on the border, detaining asylum seekers at the public's expense.

4, Just the cost estimates of the cost of holding the people currently in detention along the Southern Border until their cases are heard are $5 billion. And holding these people violates their Constitutional rights.

5. And because one should never give into a child's temper tantrum. It makes it all that much more difficult to get him to behave properly the next time he decides to pitch a fit.

their wasting 5.7 Billion with the shutdown, that doesn't seem to be bothering you at all. so excuse me, ahem, you're just confused.

It should be noted that the very same Democrats voted to fund the wall and to the same amount that Trump requests now.

"Sen. Chuck Schumer and then-senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were among a bipartisan majority that voted in favor of the legislation, and it was signed into law by President George W. Bush." Fact check: Did Democrats once support border wall?


And the same amount Trump is asking.

This is what they voted for in 2006:
$4.10 in 2006 → $5.11 in 2018
$4.10 in 2006 → 2018 | Inflation Calculator

Nobody was "against border control". What everybody but Rump and his childish fantasies were against was this juvenile idea of a "wall". An idea that was only supplied to him as a memory device for a scatterbrained unfocused idiot, to give him something to talk about.

You remain a partisan hack.

You remain a lying low-life, Stinky


Reality is defined by actions, not by words.

The Democrats are opposed to the wall, and any programs that would keep their voters out....


Proven by Obama telling illegals to go and vote.


Now...get lost....I have to air out the room.

 

[jc456]

their wasting 5.7 Billion with the shutdown, that doesn't seem to be bothering you at all. so excuse me, ahem, you're just confused.

It should be noted that the very same Democrats voted to fund the wall and to the same amount that Trump requests now.

"Sen. Chuck Schumer and then-senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were among a bipartisan majority that voted in favor of the legislation, and it was signed into law by President George W. Bush." Fact check: Did Democrats once support border wall?


And the same amount Trump is asking.

This is what they voted for in 2006:
$4.10 in 2006 → $5.11 in 2018
$4.10 in 2006 → 2018 | Inflation Calculator

Nobody was "against border control". What everybody but Rump and his childish fantasies were against was this juvenile idea of a "wall". An idea that was only supplied to him as a memory device for a scatterbrained unfocused idiot, to give him something to talk about.

You remain a partisan hack.

says the partisan hack. you know if you call someone one, that makes you one. Immediately. so you're saying walls don't keep people out? Why does Pelosi have one in front of her residence then?

She doesn't, but fences and architectural features are hardly the same thing as an armed and fortied wall around your country to keep others out.

The fence around my yard was to keep my children IN the yard, and in fact the gate to the fence wasn't locked. We have four foot fence requirements for swimming pools to keep young children from accidenetally falling in.

Fences have uses, mostly in keeping small children and animals enclosed, but mostly they don't work in keeping out crime, or undesireables. You can fence your garden but the rabbits, the squirrels, and the raccoons are still having salad for dinner.

Listen to your self, stupid is growing

 

[PoliticalChic]

their wasting 5.7 Billion with the shutdown, that doesn't seem to be bothering you at all. so excuse me, ahem, you're just confused.

It should be noted that the very same Democrats voted to fund the wall and to the same amount that Trump requests now.

"Sen. Chuck Schumer and then-senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were among a bipartisan majority that voted in favor of the legislation, and it was signed into law by President George W. Bush." Fact check: Did Democrats once support border wall?


And the same amount Trump is asking.

This is what they voted for in 2006:
$4.10 in 2006 → $5.11 in 2018
$4.10 in 2006 → 2018 | Inflation Calculator

Nobody was "against border control". What everybody but Rump and his childish fantasies were against was this juvenile idea of a "wall". An idea that was only supplied to him as a memory device for a scatterbrained unfocused idiot, to give him something to talk about.

You remain a partisan hack.

says the partisan hack. you know if you call someone one, that makes you one. Immediately. so you're saying walls don't keep people out? Why does Pelosi have one in front of her residence then?

She doesn't, but fences and architectural features are hardly the same thing as an armed and fortied wall around your country to keep others out.

The fence around my yard was to keep my children IN the yard, and in fact the gate to the fence wasn't locked. We have four foot fence requirements for swimming pools to keep young children from accidenetally falling in.

Fences have uses, mostly in keeping small children and animals enclosed, but mostly they don't work in keeping out crime, or undesireables. You can fence your garden but the rabbits, the squirrels, and the raccoons are still having salad for dinner.

Same function, you moron.

Walls to keep people in are a fact for all you Leftists, from Bolsheviks on.

Wall to keep undesirables out is a government requirement.

 

[Pogo]

1. Because, having wasted billions on an unnecessary and expensive wall, at a time when the US is running the largest deficits in history, and when there are major issues in the country, like infrastructure spending, education and retraining, and opiod abuse that are not even being mentioned let alone addressed is very foolish, and unwise.

2. Because the Trump Administration is asking for a blank cheque. They haven't done a feasability study, provided cost estimates, a timetable, an environmental impact study, or any of the other standard practices that a member of government must provide when asking for a major appropriation like this. No one can just say to Congress "Give me $5 billion. I want to build a wall". No one. Not even the President.

3. Because the American public just voted a resounding "NO" to the border policies of Donald J. Trump, including building tent cities on the border, detaining asylum seekers at the public's expense.

4, Just the cost estimates of the cost of holding the people currently in detention along the Southern Border until their cases are heard are $5 billion. And holding these people violates their Constitutional rights.

5. And because one should never give into a child's temper tantrum. It makes it all that much more difficult to get him to behave properly the next time he decides to pitch a fit.

their wasting 5.7 Billion with the shutdown, that doesn't seem to be bothering you at all. so excuse me, ahem, you're just confused.

It should be noted that the very same Democrats voted to fund the wall and to the same amount that Trump requests now.

"Sen. Chuck Schumer and then-senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were among a bipartisan majority that voted in favor of the legislation, and it was signed into law by President George W. Bush." Fact check: Did Democrats once support border wall?


And the same amount Trump is asking.

This is what they voted for in 2006:
$4.10 in 2006 → $5.11 in 2018
$4.10 in 2006 → 2018 | Inflation Calculator

Nobody was "against border control". What everybody but Rump and his childish fantasies were against was this juvenile idea of a "wall". An idea that was only supplied to him as a memory device for a scatterbrained unfocused idiot, to give him something to talk about.

You remain a partisan hack.

You remain a lying low-life, Stinky


Reality is defined by actions, not by words.

The Democrats are opposed to the wall, and any programs that would keep their voters out....


Proven by Obama telling illegals to go and vote.


Now...get lost....I have to air out the room.

What you have to air out is the echobubble you swim in. O'bama did NOT "tell illegals to go and vote". Prove me wrong.

 

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their wasting 5.7 Billion with the shutdown, that doesn't seem to be bothering you at all. so excuse me, ahem, you're just confused.

It should be noted that the very same Democrats voted to fund the wall and to the same amount that Trump requests now.

"Sen. Chuck Schumer and then-senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were among a bipartisan majority that voted in favor of the legislation, and it was signed into law by President George W. Bush." Fact check: Did Democrats once support border wall?


And the same amount Trump is asking.

This is what they voted for in 2006:
$4.10 in 2006 → $5.11 in 2018
$4.10 in 2006 → 2018 | Inflation Calculator

Nobody was "against border control". What everybody but Rump and his childish fantasies were against was this juvenile idea of a "wall". An idea that was only supplied to him as a memory device for a scatterbrained unfocused idiot, to give him something to talk about.

You remain a partisan hack.

You remain a lying low-life, Stinky


Reality is defined by actions, not by words.

The Democrats are opposed to the wall, and any programs that would keep their voters out....


Proven by Obama telling illegals to go and vote.


Now...get lost....I have to air out the room.

What you have to air out is the echobubble you swim in. O'bama did NOT "tell illegals to go and vote". Prove me wrong.

Sure he did. Facts are still not your friend

 

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their wasting 5.7 Billion with the shutdown, that doesn't seem to be bothering you at all. so excuse me, ahem, you're just confused.

It should be noted that the very same Democrats voted to fund the wall and to the same amount that Trump requests now.

"Sen. Chuck Schumer and then-senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were among a bipartisan majority that voted in favor of the legislation, and it was signed into law by President George W. Bush." Fact check: Did Democrats once support border wall?


And the same amount Trump is asking.

This is what they voted for in 2006:
$4.10 in 2006 → $5.11 in 2018
$4.10 in 2006 → 2018 | Inflation Calculator

Nobody was "against border control". What everybody but Rump and his childish fantasies were against was this juvenile idea of a "wall". An idea that was only supplied to him as a memory device for a scatterbrained unfocused idiot, to give him something to talk about.

You remain a partisan hack.

You remain a lying low-life, Stinky


Reality is defined by actions, not by words.

The Democrats are opposed to the wall, and any programs that would keep their voters out....


Proven by Obama telling illegals to go and vote.


Now...get lost....I have to air out the room.

What you have to air out is the echobubble you swim in. O'bama did NOT "tell illegals to go and vote". Prove me wrong.

"O'bama did NOT "tell illegals to go and vote". Prove me wrong."


Watch how easy this is, Stinky








1. The first line from the lovely (jealous?) young lady states the premise: Illegals are citizens, she says, because she claims they contribute to the country.
a. they don't
b. Obama sits there in total agreement.

2. Then, she asks if they will be deported if they (illegally) vote....and Obama says "not true."


Obama makes this outrageous claim:

"When you vote, you are a citizen yourself."

What???????


Obama.....being questioned about illegal voting.......encouraging illegals to vote....saying 'don't worry...no one will catch your.'



3. Obama answers the 'illegal citizen voting and fearful of immigration.'

'Not true,' he says....assuring the illegal voter that 'immigration will not know where you live, or come for you.'


4.He goes on to make this bald faced lie: "When you vote you are a citizen yourself"


5. Then he gives his verbal wink and a nod...'there is not a situation where the voting rolls are transferred over and people start investigating...."

The message is clear....'vote...nothing will happen to you...you won't be caught.'


6.There would be no reason to comfort a legal voter in that way.


7. Or...are you claiming that those 30 seconds of video are doctored in some way.

Are you?


Only a lame-brain like you would deny what is clear and evident.

The good news is that your reputation couldn't fall any lower than it is now.



Now go take a bath....in something acidic.


Barack Obama disrespect for the laws of our country, and for the Constitution.

And slimy, Stinky, individuals like you, continue to lie for the snake.