OC Couple Threatened With $500-Per-Meeting Fines For Home Bible Study

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    OC Couple Threatened With $500-Per-Meeting Fines For Home Bible Study
    MISSION VIEJO (CBS) — An Orange County couple has been ordered to stop holding a Bible study in their home on the grounds that the meeting violates a city ordinance as a “church” and not as a private gathering.

    Homeowners Chuck and Stephanie Fromm, of San Juan Capistrano, were fined $300 earlier this month for holding what city officials called “a regular gathering of more than three people”.

    That type of meeting would require a conditional use permit as defined by the city, according to Pacific Justice Institute (PJI), the couple’s legal representation.

    The Fromms also reportedly face subsequent fines of $500 per meeting for any further “religious gatherings” in their home, according to PJI.

    “We’re just gathering and enjoying each other’s company and fellowship. And we enjoy studying God’s word.” Stephanie Fromm told CBS2.

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    Neighbors have written letters to the city in support of the Fromms, whom they said have not caused any disturbances with the meetings, according to PJI.

    “The Fromm case further involves regular meetings on Sunday mornings and Thursday afternoons with up to 50 people, with impacts on the residential neighborhood on street access and parking,” City Attorney Omar Sandoval said.​

    Selective enforcement, perhaps?
     
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    Total madness, let's hope it gets thrown out.

    I think in the article the prosecutor says sometimes up to 50 people are in the area to attend these meetings? Does that mean graduation parties are illegal? A wedding in someone's backyard? Family reunions? No big barbecues?
     
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    did you know that Orange country is a HUGE republican area?
     
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    The fucking police state in action.
     
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    So they should get special treatment because they are religious?


    Note that while I don't agree with the punishment or even the law in the first place they should not be special in the law.

    They are clearly causing a disruption on a weekly basis however.

    If the people don't have a problem with it though I'm not sure why it should matter?

    They should dispute it under the first amendment though.
     
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    what these people dont realize is its likely a parking issue.
     
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    So you'd be OK if your regular poker night with the guys in your basement was subject to government intervention?
     
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    “The Fromm case further involves regular meetings on Sunday mornings and Thursday afternoons with up to 50 people, with impacts on the residential neighborhood on street access and parking,” City Attorney Omar Sandoval said.

    I was right
     
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    If the street is not designated as a residential only parking zone then there is no problem.
     

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