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  1. LibertarianLite
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    I'm having a hard time keeping up with what's going wrong under this administration:

    1. Gulf Oil Spill
    2. War in Iraq
    3. War in Afghanistan
    4. Unpopular health-care bill
    5. Trillions of planned spending deficits
    6. Devaluation of our currency (wait until credit eases).
    6a. Artificially low interest rates.
    7. $12 Trillion in actual debt, $70 trillion in entitlements not discounted.
    8. The Arizona Immigration Issue.
    9. An all out ideological Civil War.
    10. Sarah Palin is relevant.

    Am I missing anything? Not that I'm saying all are his fault, but facts are facts and that's quite a list.
     
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    Well ,I hear he is talking about about amnesty by presidential fiat that should help.
     
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    While all the above is true the media doesn't care because all the above is Bush's fault.
    The dopes that elected this guy will do it again in a heartbeat because a few months before election day the economy will finally begin to improve by the slightest measure and the media that got him elected will be praising him to the extreme and the dopes in this country will vote him back in.:cuckoo:
     
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    and he still kicks tired as white cracker republican ass easy.
     
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    Honestly it would be easier to list all the things that have went right under Obama

    I'll start

    1...........................................


    Anyone, anyone??
     
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    he fooled everyone and got prez despite being a kenyan!
     
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    It is within his powers to do so, and why shouldn't he? If he does the congress would not un-do it which it would be their prerogative. The Republicans would have to form a coalition around the issue of reversing it and they wouldn't have the support in the congress to do so. Once we have elections in November, the damage would already have been done.
     
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    It is NOT in his powers. The COTUS regulates immigration, not the President. And if you are talking about amnesty for breaking the law of entering this country illegally, well the President can NOT grant amnesty for an ongoing crime.
     
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    ConHog, I can't speak for Mr. Fitnah, but as for myself I'm speaking about a presidential order, the equivalent of a law, and which has the effect of law until and unless rescinded or cancelled out by congress. Am I wrong about that?
     
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    A Presidential Order to do what Exactly? To open the borders or grant amnesty?

    In either case the answer is no

    1. Immigration law already exist they are on the books, It is NOT within the President's power to change laws he doesn't like, it is also not in his power to overturn laws that he feels are unconstitutional. The separation of powers is clear about that. This is why much as he would love to do it, Obama can't just say "Ok no more DADT" just for example. Nor is it in the President's power to make laws. Again, that is reserved for Congress

    2. As for pardons, certainly he COULD grant 12 million pardons but then those people could immediately be arrested again for being in this country illegally, and he'd be right back to granting them pardons. i don't think SCOTUS would uphold that.
     

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