Obama's Foreign Policy ????

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  1. Vast LWC
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    1. The leaning of the White House is not important in the discussion at hand. The records of gifts received and given to various administrations are also a matter of public record.

    2. Do you have any data that contradicts the statistics gathered by Pew?
    Do you have some refutation of their polling methodology to present to us that invalidates the poll?
    Or does your argument consist entirely of "I don't agree with their findings, therefore they are wrong."?
     
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    So, the only thing that you need to do is present a poll with data that contradicts the Pew Poll, during the same time period, outside the margin of error... and you'll prove me wrong.

    I'm sure you can make that happen.
     
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    You're still claiming that your personal opinion represents the whole of Britain more than a standard sample poll does?

    Here's an example: The most current polls on RCP, for the 2012 election.
    RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama

    The sample sizes are all between 700 and 1500. (Keep in mind, the US has a population about 6 times that of England).
     
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    so a) he returned the bust , it was offered to him to be kept, but he sent it back...b) pfieffer was misinformed when he used that pic of obama showing Cameron the 'bust'

    what IS the story?

    I inferred nor said anything about disrespect etc...krauthammer said the bust was returned, it was....*shrugs*

    here he wrote on this again today;

    http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/busted-mr-pfeiffer-white-house-blog-article-1.1124986
     
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    1. The leaning most certainly does make a difference if you are discounting anyone else for 'their' leaned links, period.

    As for the rest, and please pay attention to the bolded part;
    a) What point was I trying to make?
    b) Where did I make that statement?


    To continue in this type of vein, this experiment will fail...which says a lot about us, doesn't it?
     
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    The original topic of this thread is getting derailed...
     
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    Where did I say the whole of Britain. Suggest you re-read the original posts. But I do accept the fact that you like to think you are more au fait with attitudes here than the locals are. Now who was it who said there are lies, damned lies and statistics?

    By the way, I thought the research covered Britain. It's somewhat different to just England, but I'm sure you can source some facts or data to dispute that too. Or did you just make an Obama type gaffe. He thinks the Argentinian name for the Falklands is the Maldives.:D
     
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    On the question of the British bust, I wasn't trying to discredit a link, I was saying that the story was accurate, yet did not contradict my point. Which is why my source didn't matter, because we were saying essentially the same thing.

    I was pointing out the reason the event occurred, not contradicting the other poster's assertion.

    As for the rest. You are correct, I apologize, I misunderstood your intent. My bad.

    But I will say that my link presented statistical data only, while the links I was refuting did not present data at all, but opinions of events.
     
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    This is what you said:
    As for my typical American confusing of "England" and "Britain", it was nothing more than that.
     
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    Now you're making me tired.... :(

    But, I'm with you on the bust!

    And Thank You.
     

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