Obama's 'cliff' failure increasingly likely

The 2% withholding holiday tax holiday gone, the Bush tax cuts gone, and the working class is going to find out real soon that Obama was lying thru his teeth about Obamacare reducing the family premium by $2500 a year as the exact opposite is true.

I don't feel sorry for the working stiffs who voted for this asshat, but they won't forget who the HMFIC is.

This working stiff will see a $3000 tax increase in 2013. If it helps to get the economy back on track, and some sanity back into the House, then it will be well worth it.

Given that the GOP cannot even take yes for an answer to the President's proposals, and the voters now know that, this is going to be a real loss to the GOP. Insane, that they are letting the fruitloops of their party run it.

You are spinning. The House of Representatives have ALREADY voted and PASSED an extension of the bush tax cuts.

Obama cannot even take yes for an answer.

What about the increase for those over $250K? THAT'S what the fight was about. If they haven't voted on that, no wonder he's ignoring them. Do you even know what the whole discussion is about? Until he gets that, there's nothing to talk about on cuts. In a fair bargain BOTH sides have to give something up.
 
Obama wants to go off the cliff. He did a political calculation and decided it would work for him.

Stop lying -- Obama would rather Republicans accepted his offer. But Republicans would never accept anything that would be better than going over the cliff.
 
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This working stiff will see a $3000 tax increase in 2013. If it helps to get the economy back on track, and some sanity back into the House, then it will be well worth it.

Given that the GOP cannot even take yes for an answer to the President's proposals, and the voters now know that, this is going to be a real loss to the GOP. Insane, that they are letting the fruitloops of their party run it.

You are spinning. The House of Representatives have ALREADY voted and PASSED an extension of the bush tax cuts.

Obama cannot even take yes for an answer.

What about the increase for those over $250K? THAT'S what the fight was about. If they haven't voted on that, no wonder he's ignoring them. Do you even know what the whole discussion is about? Until he gets that, there's nothing to talk about on cuts. In a fair bargain BOTH sides have to give something up.

Makes no difference to the working stiff seeing his taxes go up.

Again, the Republicans have ALREADY passed legislation to prevent this.

Obama said 'fuck you, working guy. '

But here is what happens. Obama caves and agrees to keep the tax cut in place in exchange for an increase in the debt ceiling.

See, the Tea Party is still in complete control of the lawmaking.
 
Isn't that the same calculation the Republicans are making? Why should we think they care, either? It's easy to demonize. The people will be wondering why they just didn't work with the president. Fiscal matters are in the hands of the House. Passing the buck isn't going to work.

The House has already voted to extend those middle class tax cuts to everyone, and Obama simply ignored it.

This is on the HMFIC, as always.

What are you talking about?
That's not the question. Quit being a troll and get real. The situation is dangerous and not just an occassion for your little board funzies.

Here, stupid fuck. :

House votes to extend tax cuts at all income levels - Washington Post


Educate yourself then come back and post.
 
The House has already voted to extend those middle class tax cuts to everyone, and Obama simply ignored it.

This is on the HMFIC, as always.

What are you talking about?
That's not the question. Quit being a troll and get real. The situation is dangerous and not just an occassion for your little board funzies.

Here, stupid fuck. :

House votes to extend tax cuts at all income levels - Washington Post


Educate yourself then come back and post.

What happened to the increase for over $250K? That's the bottom line, not your distraction over cuts Obama wanted anyway. The Republicans have to vote on THAT or there's no deal and they take the blame. Is that education enough for YOU?
 
LOL. He beat the pants off of you 'Conservatives'. And, when we hit the bottom of the cliff, guess who shoulders the blame? You idiots could not even agree among yourselves on how to disagree. 2014


^^
That's the calculation Obama did. He doesn't care if we have a double dip recession. He thinks Republicans will get the blame for it if it happens, so no skin off his nose.

Why aren't you saying "Boehner doesn't care" or the Republicans don't care?

They voted down their own Speaker's plan.
 

What are you talking about?
That's not the question. Quit being a troll and get real. The situation is dangerous and not just an occassion for your little board funzies.

Here, stupid fuck. :

House votes to extend tax cuts at all income levels - Washington Post


Educate yourself then come back and post.

What happened to the increase for over $250K? That's the bottom line, not your distraction over cuts Obama wanted anyway. The Republicans have to vote on THAT or there's no deal and they take the blame. Is that education enough for YOU?

Working stiff won't care that he has to pay because Obama dug in his heels somewhere else.

Working stiff is going to be pissed at the HMFIC.

Beleee dat.
 
See, peeps, this is the way I see it.

Tea Party is the swing vote in lawmaking.

A debt ceiling deal MUST be made law sometime next month.

Tea Party will win.

OMG, you are delusional if you think that Obama can be blackmailed like that.
 
That's the calculation Obama did. He doesn't care if we have a double dip recession. He thinks Republicans will get the blame for it if it happens, so no skin off his nose.

Isn't that the same calculation the Republicans are making? Why should we think they care, either? It's easy to demonize. The people will be wondering why they just didn't work with the president. Fiscal matters are in the hands of the House. Passing the buck isn't going to work.

The House has already voted to extend those middle class tax cuts to everyone, and Obama simply ignored it.

This is on the HMFIC, as always.

did they? what was attached to that bill?

we'll wait...
 
See, peeps, this is the way I see it.

Tea Party is the swing vote in lawmaking.

A debt ceiling deal MUST be made law sometime next month.

Tea Party will win.

OMG, you are delusional if you think that Obama can be blackmailed like that.

Owebama borrows 46 cents of every dollar he pisses away.

He has no choice but to offer up his hind quarters.



Bend over.


LOL
 
This working stiff will see a $3000 tax increase in 2013. If it helps to get the economy back on track, and some sanity back into the House, then it will be well worth it.

Given that the GOP cannot even take yes for an answer to the President's proposals, and the voters now know that, this is going to be a real loss to the GOP. Insane, that they are letting the fruitloops of their party run it.

You are spinning. The House of Representatives have ALREADY voted and PASSED an extension of the bush tax cuts.

Obama cannot even take yes for an answer.

What about the increase for those over $250K? THAT'S what the fight was about. If they haven't voted on that, no wonder he's ignoring them. Do you even know what the whole discussion is about? Until he gets that, there's nothing to talk about on cuts. In a fair bargain BOTH sides have to give something up.

The president doesn't have to give up much. He just won a landslide election. He campaigned on this very issue and the people overwhelmingly support it, and his whole economic plan.
 
Yup, way to obstruct the recovery for a year and a half to protect the bloated rich (AT LEAST!). "No compromise, un-American Tea Party GOP" (TIME). Absolute disgrace, for NOTHING, in the end.
 
Yup, way to obstruct the recovery for a year and a half to protect the bloated rich (AT LEAST!). "No compromise, un-American Tea Party GOP" (TIME). Absolute disgrace, for NOTHING, in the end.

Actually, the Republicans have already voted to protect the working stiff from the severe tax hikes coming up. Obama ignored it..

Working stiff won't care that Obama won a moral battle when working stiff gets his tax bill which Obama could have easily averted.


He is, afterall, the HMFIC.
 
You are spinning. The House of Representatives have ALREADY voted and PASSED an extension of the bush tax cuts.

Obama cannot even take yes for an answer.

What about the increase for those over $250K? THAT'S what the fight was about. If they haven't voted on that, no wonder he's ignoring them. Do you even know what the whole discussion is about? Until he gets that, there's nothing to talk about on cuts. In a fair bargain BOTH sides have to give something up.

The president doesn't have to give up much. He just won a landslide election. He campaigned on this very issue and the people overwhelmingly support it, and his whole economic plan.
This is correct & he even said in 2010, no more Bush tax-cut extensions because its a budget buster. Remember when Repubs claimed to be deficit hawks? :lol:
 
Yup, way to obstruct the recovery for a year and a half to protect the bloated rich (AT LEAST!). "No compromise, un-American Tea Party GOP" (TIME). Absolute disgrace, for NOTHING, in the end.

Will be remembered as total old fools...
 
See, peeps, this is the way I see it.

Tea Party is the swing vote in lawmaking.

A debt ceiling deal MUST be made law sometime next month.

Tea Party will win.

OMG, you are delusional if you think that Obama can be blackmailed like that.

Owebama borrows 46 cents of every dollar he pisses away.

He has no choice but to offer up his hind quarters.

His only sane choice would be to reject the extortion and let Republicans to bear the blame for default.
 
OMG, you are delusional if you think that Obama can be blackmailed like that.

Owebama borrows 46 cents of every dollar he pisses away.

He has no choice but to offer up his hind quarters.

His only sane choice would be to reject the extortion and let Republicans to bear the blame for default.

Don't be silly.

Obama can either cave to his betters, or destroy the American economy.
 

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