Obama's Ambitious Second-Term Agenda Could Backfire

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By Josh Kraushaar
January 11, 2013



On gun control, immigration, and Hagel, the president's biggest roadblocks are Democrats.

The White House’s ambitious agenda on gun control, immigration reform, and, perhaps, even climate change is a sign that President Obama believes he locked up precious political capital with his reelection and intends to spend it quickly. But that isn’t welcome news to many of the Democrats who need him the most in the short term--the seven Democratic senators in conservative states facing tough reelection bids.

Just one week into the new year, Obama has already hit some unpleasant stumbling blocks with his own party. On gun control, the White House is now calculating that it will be “exceedingly difficult” to pass broad measures, The New York Times reports, a sharp U-turn from its optimism heading into the new year. Senators from the president’s own party are the ones giving him trouble over his nominee for Defense secretary, former GOP Sen. Chuck Hagel, with one of the president’s most partisan backers privately expressing doubt about whether he’ll support his nomination.

And on Friday, Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., announced his retirement, making it even more likely that a West Virginia Senate seat will turn Republican for the first time since 1959. Rockefeller’s decision to step down early may give him more flexibility to vote with the White House on its pet initiatives, but it creates major problems for the Democrats looking to succeed him. The White House’s planned agenda for the coming year is awfully inhospitable for a Democrat looking to keep his or her distance from the national party. (Notably, newly minted Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee Chairman Michael Bennet, in a statement, said he is confident the party will elect an “independent-minded Democrat” to a seat.)

This is just the tip of the iceberg. To maintain their Senate majority in 2014, Democrats need to hold onto seven seats being contested on inhospitable turf--Louisiana, Arkansas, Alaska, Montana, West Virginia, North Carolina, and South Dakota. Obama holds solid approval ratings nationally but, given the state of affairs in our polarized country, is in much more tenuous shape down South. The strategic positioning of Democratic Sens. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Mark Pryor or Arkansas, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, and Mark Begich of Alaska will be fascinating to watch over the next year. Immigration, for example, is probably a winning issue for the president overall, but it will be a much tougher sell with Democrats in conservative states and districts. Rockefeller took the easy way out in stepping down.


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[OKTexas]

Poor Maobama, more bumps in the road.

 

[Dubya]

By Josh Kraushaar
January 11, 2013



On gun control, immigration, and Hagel, the president's biggest roadblocks are Democrats.

The White House’s ambitious agenda on gun control, immigration reform, and, perhaps, even climate change is a sign that President Obama believes he locked up precious political capital with his reelection and intends to spend it quickly. But that isn’t welcome news to many of the Democrats who need him the most in the short term--the seven Democratic senators in conservative states facing tough reelection bids.

Just one week into the new year, Obama has already hit some unpleasant stumbling blocks with his own party. On gun control, the White House is now calculating that it will be “exceedingly difficult” to pass broad measures, The New York Times reports, a sharp U-turn from its optimism heading into the new year. Senators from the president’s own party are the ones giving him trouble over his nominee for Defense secretary, former GOP Sen. Chuck Hagel, with one of the president’s most partisan backers privately expressing doubt about whether he’ll support his nomination.

And on Friday, Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., announced his retirement, making it even more likely that a West Virginia Senate seat will turn Republican for the first time since 1959. Rockefeller’s decision to step down early may give him more flexibility to vote with the White House on its pet initiatives, but it creates major problems for the Democrats looking to succeed him. The White House’s planned agenda for the coming year is awfully inhospitable for a Democrat looking to keep his or her distance from the national party. (Notably, newly minted Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee Chairman Michael Bennet, in a statement, said he is confident the party will elect an “independent-minded Democrat” to a seat.)

This is just the tip of the iceberg. To maintain their Senate majority in 2014, Democrats need to hold onto seven seats being contested on inhospitable turf--Louisiana, Arkansas, Alaska, Montana, West Virginia, North Carolina, and South Dakota. Obama holds solid approval ratings nationally but, given the state of affairs in our polarized country, is in much more tenuous shape down South. The strategic positioning of Democratic Sens. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Mark Pryor or Arkansas, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, and Mark Begich of Alaska will be fascinating to watch over the next year. Immigration, for example, is probably a winning issue for the president overall, but it will be a much tougher sell with Democrats in conservative states and districts. Rockefeller took the easy way out in stepping down.


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I’d argue that given Democratic congressional supermajorities in his first two years and the lingering unpopularity of the Republican Party, he held the potential to accomplish a lot more--and in a more bipartisan fashion, as well.

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The fact is the Democrats didn't have a supermajority in the Senate for two years and didn't need one in the House. The 111th Congress began with 55 Democratic Senators and two independents that caucus with them. The Democrats managed to get to the magic 58 + 2 Senators from July 7, 2009 to August 25, 2009 and from September 25, 2009 to February 4, 2010. I see 1 month, 18 days and 4 months, 9 days there, so the Democrats only had a supermajority for less than 6 months. That isn't 2 years, so your article's analysis is based on a lie and exaggerates the supermajority by more than a factor of 4. The Republican Senators tied up every piece of legislation and played games to slow the Senate down.

Source: 111th United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now, the House has such a majority of Republicans that they can obstruct, even if the Senate starts compromising.

As far as Obama's agenda and politics goes, consider this analysis! All Obama and the Democrats have to do is propose reforms and leave it up to Congress to pass or not pass them. If Congress tries to play those games in his second term, let them pay the political price for their failure to act. Obama has the veto pen and I doubt he would use it on legislation so popular that they would override his veto.

Take a look at what's happening now in this country and consider that the climate change issue could easily blowup in the Republicans face. If we don't get some good rain in 3 months, those mostly Republican breadbasket farmers may lose another year. When people start paying for their mistakes, they soon learn not to make them.

The Democrats can propose immigration reform and if the Republicans block it, they lose the Hispanic vote.

If you see political problems over the Hagel nomination, you don't know politics.

Control of the Senate requires 60 votes to truly be control and the Republicans aren't going to get 60 votes in the next election and the political capital to override Obama's vetos.

 

[SniperFire]

His agenda seems to be to destroy America.



So it looks to be pretty successful to date!

 

[Missourian]

I really thought he was going to get illegal alien amnesty through Congress, but his failed attempt to push another gun ban on law abiding citizens has likely ruined any chance of that.

 

[Dubya]

I really thought he was going to get illegal alien amnesty through Congress, but his failed attempt to push another gun ban on law abiding citizens has likely ruined any chance of that.

I don't expect any logic out of the right-wing, they're bought off by special interests.

Does or did your state have restrictions on magazine sizes for hunting?

Do you lack the imagination to figure out a way to prevent assault weapons from getting into the hands of Mexican drug cartels or unstable Americans?

It's not hard to think up logical solutions that allow citizens to own weapons and protect law abiding citizens in the process. You can legally own an operational machine, if you go through the procedures to own it.

 

[Missourian]

I really thought he was going to get illegal alien amnesty through Congress, but his failed attempt to push another gun ban on law abiding citizens has likely ruined any chance of that.

Do you lack the imagination to figure out a way to prevent assault weapons from getting into the hands of Mexican drug cartels or unstable Americans?

First I'd stop the ATF and the Obama Justice Department from sending them over the border gift wrapped, tied in a bow with a card address to the cartels.

While at the same time OBAMA AND CLINTON bemoan the terrible flow of firearms into Mexico THAT FAST AND FURIOUS WAS CONTRIBUTING TOO!

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At the same time all you gun grabbing hacks get your talking points and marching orders to flood these boards with that same "90%" crap to push gun control.

With one hand you help feed a crisis, so with the other hand you can point to that same crisis to push your agenda.

And that's the Obama/Chicago way.

I think that would be a magnificent starting point, how about you?

 

[Missourian]

Now, none of that has anything to do will Obama's second term, or his failed attempt to push another gun ban on law abiding citizens or his upcoming battle to grant amnesty to illegal aliens.

 

[OKTexas]

I really thought he was going to get illegal alien amnesty through Congress, but his failed attempt to push another gun ban on law abiding citizens has likely ruined any chance of that.

I don't expect any logic out of the right-wing, they're bought off by special interests.

Does or did your state have restrictions on magazine sizes for hunting?

What does hunting have to do with defense, do you want soldiers to limit their magazines also? After all no one needs superior fire power, RIGHT?

Do you lack the imagination to figure out a way to prevent assault weapons from getting into the hands of Mexican drug cartels or unstable Americans?

Maybe Eric Holder could stop shipping them down there.

It's not hard to think up logical solutions that allow citizens to own weapons and protect law abiding citizens in the process. You can legally own an operational machine, if you go through the procedures to own it.

Maybe we should require everyone to go through a class to buy CFL light bulbs, mercury is a hazardous material after all. Come on let's hear it for requiring a license for anything that can hurt some one, after all hammers and clubs kill more people than rifles.

 

[Dubya]

I really thought he was going to get illegal alien amnesty through Congress, but his failed attempt to push another gun ban on law abiding citizens has likely ruined any chance of that.

Do you lack the imagination to figure out a way to prevent assault weapons from getting into the hands of Mexican drug cartels or unstable Americans?

First I'd stop the ATF and the Obama Justice Department from sending them over the border gift wrapped, tied in a bow with a card address to the cartels.

While at the same time OBAMA AND CLINTON bemoan the terrible flow of firearms into Mexico THAT FAST AND FURIOUS WAS CONTRIBUTING TOO!

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At the same time all you gun grabbing hacks get your talking points and marching orders to flood these boards with that same "90%" crap to push gun control.

With one hand you help feed a crisis, so with the other hand you can point to that same crisis to push your agenda.

And that's the Obama/Chicago way.

I think that would be a magnificent starting point, how about you?

If you weren't such a hack you would know they didn't send them to Mexico and just used the weapons to track where they were going. The problem was lack of regulation for sales made by gun dealers and gun shows.

I noticed how you avoided the point about limits on rounds during hunting. Where is your Second Amendment rights there?

 

[Dubya]

I really thought he was going to get illegal alien amnesty through Congress, but his failed attempt to push another gun ban on law abiding citizens has likely ruined any chance of that.

I don't expect any logic out of the right-wing, they're bought off by special interests.

Does or did your state have restrictions on magazine sizes for hunting?

What does hunting have to do with defense, do you want soldiers to limit their magazines also? After all no one needs superior fire power, RIGHT?

Do you lack the imagination to figure out a way to prevent assault weapons from getting into the hands of Mexican drug cartels or unstable Americans?

Maybe Eric Holder could stop shipping them down there.

It's not hard to think up logical solutions that allow citizens to own weapons and protect law abiding citizens in the process. You can legally own an operational machine, if you go through the procedures to own it.

Maybe we should require everyone to go through a class to buy CFL light bulbs, mercury is a hazardous material after all. Come on let's hear it for requiring a license for anything that can hurt some one, after all hammers and clubs kill more people than rifles.

Maybe you should follow a subject and stop acting like the typical right-wing fool!

 

[OKTexas]

I don't expect any logic out of the right-wing, they're bought off by special interests.

Does or did your state have restrictions on magazine sizes for hunting?

What does hunting have to do with defense, do you want soldiers to limit their magazines also? After all no one needs superior fire power, RIGHT?

Do you lack the imagination to figure out a way to prevent assault weapons from getting into the hands of Mexican drug cartels or unstable Americans?

Maybe Eric Holder could stop shipping them down there.

It's not hard to think up logical solutions that allow citizens to own weapons and protect law abiding citizens in the process. You can legally own an operational machine, if you go through the procedures to own it.

Maybe we should require everyone to go through a class to buy CFL light bulbs, mercury is a hazardous material after all. Come on let's hear it for requiring a license for anything that can hurt some one, after all hammers and clubs kill more people than rifles.

Maybe you should follow a subject and stop acting like the typical right-wing fool!

Great deflection, I followed the subjects in your post, that was what I was responding to. BTW the ATF instructed dealers to continue to allow purchases by known gun runners, giving the dealers immunity from prosecution.

 

[Dubya]

Maybe we should require everyone to go through a class to buy CFL light bulbs, mercury is a hazardous material after all. Come on let's hear it for requiring a license for anything that can hurt some one, after all hammers and clubs kill more people than rifles.

Maybe you should follow a subject and stop acting like the typical right-wing fool!

Great deflection, I followed the subjects in your post, that was what I was responding to. BTW the ATF instructed dealers to continue to allow purchases by known gun runners, giving the dealers immunity from prosecution.

You have to make up shit like immunity from prosecution to express your right-wing, it's all a conspiracy ways!

It was just a sting operation to follow the guns to the big fish, instead of arresting the minnows. They do the same with drugs.

Now if I wanted to trace the guns to the Drug Cartels, I would have planted tracking devices and how do you know they didn't, because they didn't tell you?

Rant on and show the world what the right-wing is all about!

 

[Sarah G]

Do you teabaggers really believe the public is on your side on these issues?

Delusionary.. Worry about your own party, Obama is on a winning roll.

 

[Missourian]

Do you lack the imagination to figure out a way to prevent assault weapons from getting into the hands of Mexican drug cartels or unstable Americans?

First I'd stop the ATF and the Obama Justice Department from sending them over the border gift wrapped, tied in a bow with a card address to the cartels.

While at the same time OBAMA AND CLINTON bemoan the terrible flow of firearms into Mexico THAT FAST AND FURIOUS WAS CONTRIBUTING TOO!

​

At the same time all you gun grabbing hacks get your talking points and marching orders to flood these boards with that same "90%" crap to push gun control.

With one hand you help feed a crisis, so with the other hand you can point to that same crisis to push your agenda.

And that's the Obama/Chicago way.

I think that would be a magnificent starting point, how about you?

If you weren't such a hack you would know they didn't send them to Mexico and just used the weapons to track where they were going. The problem was lack of regulation for sales made by gun dealers and gun shows.

I noticed how you avoided the point about limits on rounds during hunting. Where is your Second Amendment rights there?

And if you weren't so ignorant of the facts, you wouldn't post false information that was so easily exposed as complete bullshit.

From the extremely right wing sourcelol...CBS News:

Fast and Furious" is the name ATF assigned to a group of Phoenix, Arizona-area gun trafficking cases under Project Gunrunner that began in fall of 2009. It's the largest of several known operations in which ATF employed gunwalking, involving more than 2,000 weapons, including hundreds of AK-47 type semi-automatic rifles and .50 caliber rifles.

According to sources who worked directly on the case, the vast majority of guns were not tracked and Mexico's government was not fully informed of the case.

A primer on the "Fast and Furious" scandal - CBS News Investigates - CBS News

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Since the end of Operation Fast and Furious, related firearms have continued to be discovered in criminal hands. As reported in September 2011, the Mexican government stated that an undisclosed number of guns found at about 170 crime scenes were linked to Fast and Furious.[48] U.S. Representative Darrell Issa (R–CA–49) estimated that more than 200 Mexicans were killed by guns linked to the operation.[49] Reflecting on the operation, Attorney General Eric Holder said that the United States government is "...losing the battle to stop the flow of illegal guns to Mexico,"[50] and that the effects of Operation Fast and Furious will most likely continue to be felt for years, as more walked guns appear at Mexican crime scenes.[51]

ATF gunwalking scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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I suppose you'll be happy to enlighten us as to the mechanism by which tracked guns that didn't go to Mexico ended up killing people in Mexico.


I hope it involves time travel or transporter technology, if I'm going to be subjected to a fictional tale, I prefer it to be Science Fiction.

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