Truthmatters
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the one who has been there long enough to see what needs to be changed but not long enough to be changed by it.
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Judgment:
It is good judgment to set positive goals to works towards such as getting country onto sustainables in the next ten years and create 5 million jobs in the process, as opposed to governing through negative means like fear.
It is good judgment to speak in unifying and uplifting language rather than divisive language.
It is good judgment to pick a vp that can lead.
It is good judgment to work with allies towards common goals in multilateral ways rather than to bluster unilaterally about iran or russia etc.
One big piece of change obama brings is to energize and bring young people in droves into the scene. That's not a little thing. Another change is that he is more dedicated to getting us off oil, iow sustainable, much sooner. McCain's plan allows us to stay on oil through his entire administration and beyond, obama has set a timeline goal to be completely off foreign oil.
Another change is that obama has repeatedly shown is his leadership style - he relies much more heavily on taking into account a variety of input from diverse advisors, unlike bush who only took yes men to support his pre-made decisions and also unlike mccain who touts his personal experience and knowledge ie he paints himself as someone who knows the answers (doesn't say much about gathering input from experts.)
You know dillo , it really is disappointing that people are so blinded by their party that they cannot even admit that their party has some dipshits in it. I know my party sure does, the republicans have had their fair share of them. I just cannot understand how someone can say I'm for change in Washington when they are from Washington, I find that funny no matter who the hell is saying it.
Care I am very aware of those do-nothing knuckle heads, to me it's this partisanship thats hurt this country and republicans are as bad as the democrats at it.
That ain't change my sister.
I am willing to wait and see, about the things you say, but I do disagree in general. Obama rings true, as much as Bush rang false. I may be as deluded as Bush voters were four years ago, or not, and time will tell. His flip flops - some are flip flops and dismay me but others are not - they are spin.
And, change comes every four years or eight years. Bush changed washington, whoever is next will change washington, to say there is change or no change is just rhetoric.
It's as silly to say that obama will not bring change as to say that he will. He'd be a different president, with a different congress, that not the same my brother. (or sister.)
I am willing to wait and see, about the things you say, but I do disagree in general. Obama rings true, as much as Bush rang false. I may be as deluded as Bush voters were four years ago, or not, and time will tell. His flip flops - some are flip flops and dismay me but others are not - they are spin.
And, change comes every four years or eight years. Bush changed washington, whoever is next will change washington, to say there is change or no change is just rhetoric.
It's as silly to say that obama will not bring change as to say that he will. He'd be a different president, with a different congress, that not the same my brother. (or sister.)
But if things get worse they'll blame the Bush admin. Remember it's always the other party's fault. That might save the 2010 election for the Dems but if its a Obama / Democratic Congress and things don't turn around by 2012 the Repubs might sneek back in (provided they don't nominate an idiot)
What hurts this country is Americans are dumb as rocks and we demand that our politicians be actors and clowns.
WE don't want to hear the truth .. cognitive dissonance will block it out .. and we don't want the red pill.
Illusion works just fine for us, we don't need no stinking truth.
Cail, no offense intended here , but isn't that saying, your voting for change just for the sake of change. Heck Cali with that logic, if Cheech ran for president then he would represnt change. I'm not judging you here , but to me it comes across as a vote for the style and not the substance.
I personally am not voting for change, I am voting for the guy that I agree with on more issues and leadership style.
But BAC said there is no change and it looks to me like there is a lot of change with Obama. Energy and getting the youth involved are two biggies in my book.
Bush also brought change to washington, as every pres does. So the change comment always sounds weird to me, but I do agree with Obama on energy etc and I think he is more 'current' in his thinking - He is more likely to work with allies, he is more interested in proactively developing competitive technology here, he is more in touch with current technologies for that matter (as mccain talks about missiles Obama talks about suitcase nukes) etc.