Obama takes round 2 with narrow victory

[MisterBeale]

Chasing the "undecideds" at this point seems sort of ridiculous. These people are either lying or are trying to go through life without ever making a decision. How anybody cannot know who or what they want in the White House at this point in time is beyond me.

As for the debate itself, I watched it on live stream here . I was happy that Romney got to some key points: Fast & Furious, Benghazi and Canada oil pipline to name a few. Obama was clearly lying, but who really expects otherwise? Next week's poll numbers (the real ones) should seal the deal for Romney once and for all.

Sometime being undecided is not about whether you like or dislike one candidate or another, it is about whether or not you are even going to vote or not. Sure, you are registered and have voted in the past four, five, six, etc. presidential elections, but you have become increasingly aware that your vote doesn't matter.


It is beyond you, because you are a victim of media conditioning. You believe your vote makes a difference, that who ever becomes POTUS, will make a difference in the direction of the nation, and the world in general. Ostensibly, this is not so. After the election, the debt will continue, the violence will continue, the joblessness will continue, the further consolidation of wealth into the hands of the top one percent, will continue. Corporatism, will continue. We have been given two candidates. It makes no difference to the ruling elites who wins.

Both are good for them. For the undecideds, those who really want change, the real progressives, and the real librarians, we are trying to determine if we want to even vote, and who the power elites really want to win. If we can determine who they really want to win, we will throw our support behind the other guy. The longer we can forestall their eventual consolidation of the police state, the longer we have for rubes like you to wake up. And then, who knows?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk]George Carlin Doesn't vote - YouTube[/ame]

But it is so late in the game, our consciousnesses will probably remain most clear if we just stay home this year and not lend an air of credibility to this sham.

As a non-partisan voter, one has become acutely aware, that both parties are controlled by both the same big corporate interests in different ways. We also have become aware that the election process too, has become increasingly corrupt, by both parties. It is horrendously corrupted, it is awful, worse than Russia, worse than a tin pot banana republic or a tin pot dictatorships. The corporations, the Fed, and the two major parties would never allow the UN department on political affairs or third party observers in to monitor the elections. They don't want that. The only way to make sure that the elections don't "elect" exactly who the elites want elected, is if an overwhelming amount of people come out and support one candidate that will support real change. Nope, no one chance of that happening. Another possibility is that we overwhelming elect someone whom we know has plans to do something terrible, and then we protest, as a nation, exactly against what we voted the person into office to do. Doesn't make a lot of sense, does it?

The elites have positioned Obama to give the world an united one world currency. . . this is terrible for each sovereign state within the Union. There is no individual Californian, New Yorker, Texan, Floridian, etc., that would ever, knowingly vote for this. . . ever. Not if they were a patriotic American. But this is the elites plan.

The elites have positioned Romney to give the world a more united political structure through the initiation of WWIII through the threat of "weapons of mass destruction," and global annihilation, via an attack on Iran, which ostensibly will draw in Russia, China, India, Israel, Turkey, Syria, Iraq, etc., etc., No patriotic American would vote for this option either.

Choose and lose. Or stay out of it and absolve yourself of the moral responsibility of being party to causing the end of America.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Election Forecasts - FiveThirtyEight Blog - NYTimes.com

Is still ahead in projected Electoral College count. Obviously, Mitt became irritated in that debate.

63% of the people said Obama did not win, and you call that a narrow victory for Obama. Gotta admit I didn't see that coming.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

You know that Romney won/Obama lost when the liberal media is calling it a 'narrow victory.'

 

[ScienceRocks]

Read all about it...Obama spins and lies!!!!


Time line of lies!

Obama's Benghazi Lies - Home

Destroys Obama's case. It wasn't about a fucking terrorist attack, BUT the protest over our freedom of speech.

On the 13th he was talking about the protest when he said terrorized.

Susan Rice said on the 16th that this wasn't a pre-planned attack. LIES

On the 18th Obama went on the letterman show and blamed our first amendment for the attack. LIES!!!

If the terrorized was supposed to mean a terrorist attack. Well, Obama sure inserted his foot in his ass.

Clinton on the 21st was the first to say it was a Terrorist attack. SPIN!

Obama on the view on the 25th said it was about the fucking video! Spin some more!!!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD4a9GHBF_U&feature=related]Carney maintains Libya attack was not preplanned - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPzjayOh-PU&feature=relmfu]Who is responsible for the attack in Benghazi? - YouTube[/ame]



O'shit did Obama fuck up on security?

Biden blatantly lied about Chris Stevens wanting more Security
The Fact Checker


“We weren’t told they wanted more security there. We did not know they wanted more security.”

— Biden, speaking of the U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya

Biden’s bold statement was directly contradicted by State Department officials just this week, in testimony before a congressional panel and in unclassified cables released by a congressional committee.

“All of us at post were in sync that we wanted these resources,” said Eric Nordstrom, the top regional security officer in Libya earlier this year. A Utah national guardsman who led a security team, Lt. Col. Andrew Wood, said: “We felt great frustration that those requests were ignored or just never met.”


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIxjz5wEcF0]September 12, 2012 - President Obama Speaks on Libya Attacks that killed US Ambassador Chris Stevens - YouTube[/ame]

@ 5:00-6:20 you can hear the context in which he mentioned terrorism, Romney was correct in his assertation as, in context, Obama was referring to terrorism in general and not specifically the attack
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Candy wasn't even right here as Obama said "terror" in the context of the protest.



Crowley to Axelrod: Obama Never Said Benghazi Attack Was 'Act of Terror
Breitbart ^ | 17 Oct 2012, 3:44 AM PDT | Tony Lee
Crowley to Axelrod: Obama Never Said Benghazi Attack Was 'Act of Terror'

On CNN's "State of the Union" on September 30, Candy Crowley insisted David Axelrod, President Barack Obama's chief strategist, was wrong when Axelrod tried to claim President Barack Obama called the Benghazi attack "an act of terror" on the day after.
"First, they said it was not planned, it was part of this tape," Crowley said when Axelrod tried to spin her.
This was Crowley the journalist, unlike the pro-Obama advocate who moderated Tuesday's debate between Obama and Mitt Romney and interjected herself into an argument between Obama and Romney on the exact same issue -- and took Obama's side.
During the debate, Crowley affirmed Obama's assertion that he referred to the Benghazi attacks as acts of terror on the day after.
After Romney correctly said it took Obama 14 days before Obama said the the Benghazi attacks were acts of terror, Crowley took Obama's side -- to an ovation from the town hall audience -- and she proclaimed Obama had indeed claimed the Benghazi attacks were acts of terror the day after the attacks in the White House Rose Garden.
On September 12, the day after the attacks, Obama did say the words "acts of terror" but he was not referring to the attacks that killed U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens.
Crowley knew that on September 30 and she conceded it again hours after the debate when she went on CNN and said while Romney "was right in the main, but he just chose the wrong word." But the damage had already been done.
With Obama's reelection on the line, Crowley seemed to have conveniently forgotten the facts she knew two weeks before when she grilled Axelrod in a way she should have Obama.

 

[Misty]

Crowley helped Obama lie.

The rose garden speech. Notice he never calls the benghazi attack a terrorist attack.

He calls 9-11 an act of terrorism towards the very end.

"THE PRESIDENT:* Good morning.* Every day, all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation.* Often, they are away from their families.* Sometimes, they brave great danger.

Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi.* Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith.* We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed.* And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.

The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack.* We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats.* I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world.* And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.

Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths.* We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.* But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence.* None.* The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.

Already, many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya.* Libyan security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans.* Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador Stevens’s body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had died.

It's especially tragic that Chris Stevens died in Benghazi because it is a city that he helped to save.* At the height of the Libyan revolution, Chris led our diplomatic post in Benghazi.* With characteristic skill, courage, and resolve, he built partnerships with Libyan revolutionaries, and helped them as they planned to build a new Libya.* When the Qaddafi regime came to an end, Chris was there to serve as our ambassador to the new Libya, and he worked tirelessly to support this young democracy, and I think both Secretary Clinton and I relied deeply on his knowledge of the situation on the ground there.* He was a role model to all who worked with him and to the young diplomats who aspire to walk in his footsteps.

Along with his colleagues, Chris died in a country that is still striving to emerge from the recent experience of war. Today, the loss of these four Americans is fresh, but our memories of them linger on.* I have no doubt that their legacy will live on through the work that they did far from our shores and in the hearts of those who love them back home.

Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks.* We mourned with the families who were lost on that day.* I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed.* And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.*

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it.* Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.* Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America.* We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act.* And make no mistake, justice will be done.

But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers.* These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity.* They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.

We grieve with their families, but let us carry on their memory, and let us continue their work of seeking a stronger America and a better world for all of our children.

Thank you.* May God bless the memory of those we lost and may God bless the United States of America."

END
10:48 A.M. EDT

 

[Misty]

Obama knew while making this speech that he was lying. He already knew that benghazi was a huge danger zone the British had pulled all their people out 2 weeks before.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Obama wants to make this a matter of semantics to distract from his administration's bold faced lies.