Obama Spokesperson Claims Straight Couples Are Ruining Marriage

[G.T.]

Data, facts:

In U.S., Proportion Married at Lowest Recorded Levels - Population Reference Bureau

 

[ClosedCaption]

Hilary Rosen, who claimed Ann Romney never worked a day in her life was on "This Week" on ABC saying that straight couples were tearing down the institution of marriage. She claimed that because 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce it proves that straight couples don't make the best marriages. Never mind that she's a lesbian and has switched partners and has adoptive children from the union.

Seems to me the Obama Administration wants...

This is where I stopped. Mudwhistle has been proven to be incapable of thinking and using logic. Any statements made after "seems to me..." will be a waste of time

Thank you for admitting openly you'd rather be willfully-ignorant.

My point is valid....and you refuse to look past your nose.

Bravo.

Willfully ignorant of what you believe something to be. Yes, I give 2 whole shits what your interpretations are because your opinion of the facts mean Jack Shit. We can debate facts but you want everyone to debate your assertions. No thanks, your assertions and assumptions both come from the 1st three letters in both words

 

[saveliberty]

This is not an argument ^ it's a pussified bloviation without substance.

That did you say pussy?

Another non argument, also a non-sentence.

Not my fault you can't see how asking a church to change their POV on divorced people remarrying and changing it for gays to be married are similiar in many ways.

 

[saveliberty]

What's up with only being able to marry one person? Age limits?

 

[G.T.]

That did you say pussy?

Another non argument, also a non-sentence.

Not my fault you can't see how asking a church to change their POV on divorced people remarrying and changing it for gays to be married are similiar in many ways.

^ This has nothing to do with my posts your retarded ass quoted, at all. ^

Try not quoting someone if you don't have the faintest what the fuck they're talking about.

 

[G.T.]

What's up with only being able to marry one person? Age limits?

Why don't you stump for polygamy and pedophilia?

 

[Newby]

G.T's understanding of society is laughable.

This thread reminds me, when are the Catholics going to demand being allowed to remarry after a divorce?

This is not an argument ^ it's a pussified bloviation without substance.

I think it's more because people are living together due to the fact that there are more government handouts available to a single woman with children that has no formal education and is low income. Statistics show that those with high school education or less are not getting married and educated people, i.e. bachelor degree or higher are still getting married at approximately the same rate. They don't need the government handout, so they don't need to stay single.

In U.S., Proportion Married at Lowest Recorded Levels - Population Reference Bureau

A Growing Marriage Gap
Results from the Census Bureau's CPS, released in September 2010, show that the decline in marriage rates continued in 2010.5 Marriage rates have dropped among all major racial/ethnic groups and for both men and women. However, there are substantial differences in marriage trends by level of education. CPS data show that those with only a high school diploma (or less) have experienced a steep decline in marriage during the past decade. In contrast, marriage rates have held fairly steady for those with at least a bachelor's degree.

Between 2000 and 2010, the proportion of young adults who are married dropped 10 percentage points (to 44 percent) for those with a high school diploma or less. For those with at least a bachelor's degree, the percent married dropped only 4 percentage points, to 52 percent. This divergence in trends has led to a growing "marriage gap" between those at different ends of the educational scale.6

The marriage gap used to be reversed. Prior to the 1990s, marriage rates among those with a high school diploma or less were higher than those with a four-year college education. The college-educated were more likely to postpone marriage compared with those in less-educated groups. Marriage rates today look very different, with higher proportions of young, highly educated adults entering formal unions, and a sharp drop among those with less education.

 

[mudwhistle]

Less people have been getting married consistently for 100 years. The graph goes: \ in every study on the subject.

It's sentience, and self actualization - Humans aren't "Naturally Designed" to be Monogamous.

And actually, the "good thing" about trends is that they're a highly accurate and effective tool in predicting the future.

Not being monogamous is an indication of a weak relationship.

I think you're posting in the wrong thread.

You might want to look for the "Any Cock Will Do" thread.

This means nothing to actually what is occuring - try dealing in reality.

It means a lot.

Rosen points out a stat to which you post one of the reasons for it and claim I'm not living in reality. I'm really not seeing what you're getting at other than you want to show how cynical you can be.

 

[saveliberty]

What's up with only being able to marry one person? Age limits?

Why don't you stump for polygamy and pedophilia?

Society has limits and fortunately, some level of morality. Right now gays aren't unbounds. Feel free to stump for immorality.

 

[G.T.]

Not being monogamous is an indication of a weak relationship.

I think you're posting in the wrong thread.

You might want to look for the "Any Cock Will Do" thread.

This means nothing to actually what is occuring - try dealing in reality.

It means a lot.

Rosen points out a stat to which you post one of the reasons for it and claim I'm not living in reality. I'm really not seeing what you're getting at other than you want to show how cynical you can be.

You exactly do NOT see what I'm getting at - it's because you're dumb. No biggy.

 

[G.T.]

What's up with only being able to marry one person? Age limits?

Why don't you stump for polygamy and pedophilia?

Society has limits and fortunately, some level of morality. Right now gays aren't unbounds. Feel free to stump for immorality.

I will never stump for immorality; however, what you and I consider immoral is likely different.

 

[G.T.]

G.T's understanding of society is laughable.

This thread reminds me, when are the Catholics going to demand being allowed to remarry after a divorce?

This is not an argument ^ it's a pussified bloviation without substance.

I think it's more because people are living together due to the fact that there are more government handouts available to a single woman with children that has no formal education and is low income. Statistics show that those with high school education or less are not getting married and educated people, i.e. bachelor degree or higher are still getting married at approximately the same rate. They don't need the government handout, so they don't need to stay single.

In U.S., Proportion Married at Lowest Recorded Levels - Population Reference Bureau

A Growing Marriage Gap
Results from the Census Bureau's CPS, released in September 2010, show that the decline in marriage rates continued in 2010.5 Marriage rates have dropped among all major racial/ethnic groups and for both men and women. However, there are substantial differences in marriage trends by level of education. CPS data show that those with only a high school diploma (or less) have experienced a steep decline in marriage during the past decade. In contrast, marriage rates have held fairly steady for those with at least a bachelor's degree.

Between 2000 and 2010, the proportion of young adults who are married dropped 10 percentage points (to 44 percent) for those with a high school diploma or less. For those with at least a bachelor's degree, the percent married dropped only 4 percentage points, to 52 percent. This divergence in trends has led to a growing "marriage gap" between those at different ends of the educational scale.6

The marriage gap used to be reversed. Prior to the 1990s, marriage rates among those with a high school diploma or less were higher than those with a four-year college education. The college-educated were more likely to postpone marriage compared with those in less-educated groups. Marriage rates today look very different, with higher proportions of young, highly educated adults entering formal unions, and a sharp drop among those with less education.

It's relatively the same in the l;ast ten years, but on the decline nonetheless.

 

[saveliberty]

Why don't you stump for polygamy and pedophilia?

Society has limits and fortunately, some level of morality. Right now gays aren't unbounds. Feel free to stump for immorality.

I will never stump for immorality; however, what you and I consider immoral is likely different.

Good place to stop with some level of understanding and agreement. Thanks.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Hilary Rosen, who claimed Ann Romney never worked a day in her life was on "This Week" on ABC saying that straight couples were tearing down the institution of marriage. She claimed that because 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce it proves that straight couples don't make the best marriages. Never mind that she's a lesbian and has switched partners and has adoptive children from the union.

Seems to me the Obama Administration wants to make straight couples out to be bigots, strange, abnormal, whatever negative connotation you can dream up.

So is this to be the new normal?

"Here's one more sort of nonpolitical point, which is, you know, sorry, but straight people don't need any help tearing down the institution of marriage. You're doing just fine as it is. One in three divorces. You know, come on."

"The irony is that really, gay people are looking to do the most conservative thing. They want to fight in the armed forces, you know, to protect our country, and they want to join the institution of marriage, loving committed couples raising children. That, you know, I don't know that that's a conversation that the president ought to have on the campaign trail every day, but I do think it's something we ought to recognize and acknowledge."http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/05/14/Rosen-back-lesbian-divorce

Not only is this short-sighted but is is also discriminatory. Using a one-sided statistic to claim that straights are screwing up the institution of marriage while forgetting that statistics show that Gay couples stay together an average of 6 years while straights stay together an average of 18 according to a study published in Time Magazine back in 2004. Behavior: Do Gay Couples Have An Edge? - TIME

I'm not saying that one is better than the other, but I think Hilary Rosen is. It appears that the left wants us to think that straights are odd and Gays are more acceptable, more admirable, more reliable. Seems to me they want to turn the tables on their targets, straight people. Guess being a liberal means you're black, Muslim, a feminist, and are also Gay......or at least support all of the above. If you're not a liberal or an Obama supporter you're a hater.

Honestly.....who's really showing hatred here now.

What's the point of lying exactly? She's not an Obama spokesperson.

What would be the point of starting a thread out with an outright lie, making you look like a jackass, and assuring that no one will take your thread seriously...

Do you still get off on trolling? After all these years of internet forums being around...jeezus.

 

[Bigfoot]

Hilary Rosen, who claimed Ann Romney never worked a day in her life was on "This Week" on ABC saying that straight couples were tearing down the institution of marriage. She claimed that because 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce it proves that straight couples don't make the best marriages. Never mind that she's a lesbian and has switched partners and has adoptive children from the union.

Seems to me the Obama Administration wants to make straight couples out to be bigots, strange, abnormal, whatever negative connotation you can dream up.

So is this to be the new normal?

"Here's one more sort of nonpolitical point, which is, you know, sorry, but straight people don't need any help tearing down the institution of marriage. You're doing just fine as it is. One in three divorces. You know, come on."

"The irony is that really, gay people are looking to do the most conservative thing. They want to fight in the armed forces, you know, to protect our country, and they want to join the institution of marriage, loving committed couples raising children. That, you know, I don't know that that's a conversation that the president ought to have on the campaign trail every day, but I do think it's something we ought to recognize and acknowledge."http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/05/14/Rosen-back-lesbian-divorce

Not only is this short-sighted but is is also discriminatory. Using a one-sided statistic to claim that straights are screwing up the institution of marriage while forgetting that statistics show that Gay couples stay together an average of 6 years while straights stay together an average of 18 according to a study published in Time Magazine back in 2004. Behavior: Do Gay Couples Have An Edge? - TIME

I'm not saying that one is better than the other, but I think Hilary Rosen is. It appears that the left wants us to think that straights are odd and Gays are more acceptable, more admirable, more reliable. Seems to me they want to turn the tables on their targets, straight people. Guess being a liberal means you're black, Muslim, a feminist, and are also Gay......or at least support all of the above. If you're not a liberal or an Obama supporter you're a hater.

Honestly.....who's really showing hatred here now.

What's the point of lying exactly? She's not an Obama spokesperson.

What would be the point of starting a thread out with an outright lie, making you look like a jackass, and assuring that no one will take your thread seriously...

Do you still get off on trolling? After all these years of internet forums being around...jeezus.

It's a good thread. I have found it interesting.

 

[bodecea]

Really? Rosen said bad things about traditional marriage, eh?

List the things Rosen said was BAD about traditional marriage:

1.

2.

3.

Saying it's tearing it down isn't exactly a positive.......unless you think tearing it down is a good thing. Seems bad to me.

Just saying.

Saying WHAT'S tearing it down?

Bumping for an answer. What does your pronoun refer to? What is tearing marriage down?

 

[boilermaker55]

Hilary Rosen, who claimed Ann Romney never worked a day in her life was on "This Week" on ABC saying that straight couples were tearing down the institution of marriage. She claimed that because 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce it proves that straight couples don't make the best marriages. Never mind that she's a lesbian and has switched partners and has adoptive children from the union.

Seems to me the Obama Administration wants to make straight couples out to be bigots, strange, abnormal, whatever negative connotation you can dream up.

So is this to be the new normal?

"Here's one more sort of nonpolitical point, which is, you know, sorry, but straight people don't need any help tearing down the institution of marriage. You're doing just fine as it is. One in three divorces. You know, come on."

"The irony is that really, gay people are looking to do the most conservative thing. They want to fight in the armed forces, you know, to protect our country, and they want to join the institution of marriage, loving committed couples raising children. That, you know, I don't know that that's a conversation that the president ought to have on the campaign trail every day, but I do think it's something we ought to recognize and acknowledge."http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/05/14/Rosen-back-lesbian-divorce

Not only is this short-sighted but is is also discriminatory. Using a one-sided statistic to claim that straights are screwing up the institution of marriage while forgetting that statistics show that Gay couples stay together an average of 6 years while straights stay together an average of 18 according to a study published in Time Magazine back in 2004. Behavior: Do Gay Couples Have An Edge? - TIME

I'm not saying that one is better than the other, but I think Hilary Rosen is. It appears that the left wants us to think that straights are odd and Gays are more acceptable, more admirable, more reliable. Seems to me they want to turn the tables on their targets, straight people. Guess being a liberal means you're black, Muslim, a feminist, and are also Gay......or at least support all of the above. If you're not a liberal or an Obama supporter you're a hater.

Honestly.....who's really showing hatred here now.

So tell us why the divorce rate is so high?

 

[G.T.]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F_ZZEuVLaw&feature=plcp]My Thoughts On Marriage - YouTube[/ame]

 

[BDBoop]

One in three - so it's dropping? Last I knew, we were around a 50/50% chance of survival. Britney Spears, Kim Kardashian, Rush Limbaugh, Larry King, Hugh Hefner; marriage has been a joke for a very long time. I don't see how LGBT can do any worse by it.

 

[mudwhistle]

This means nothing to actually what is occuring - try dealing in reality.

It means a lot.

Rosen points out a stat to which you post one of the reasons for it and claim I'm not living in reality. I'm really not seeing what you're getting at other than you want to show how cynical you can be.

You exactly do NOT see what I'm getting at - it's because you're dumb. No biggy.

I can see you aren't really talking about this thread, or trying to derail it.

I know your point. Marriage isn't trendy and normal families are for sucks and squares. Am I right?