Obama speaks in generalities...

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    I don't want to get to overheated about what occurred tonight, but I do think McCain had a clear and decisive victory over Obama. It all comes down to something that Phil Bredesen, the Democratic governor of Tennessee recently said about Obama: “Instead of giving big speeches at big stadiums, he needs to give straight-up 10-word answers to people at Wal-Mart about how he would improve their lives.”

    By that standard, McCain did extremely well and Obama did very poorly. McCain's answers were direct, confident and, most importantly, serious. When asked about what leaders he would consult as president, he first suggested Gen. Petraeus, architect of the surge, who he correctly praised as one of America's all-time great military leaders. By way of contrast, Obama suggested he would seek out the advice of a typical white person, er, his grandmother and his wife Michelle, who's still trying to decide whether she's proud of her country.

    When asked "At what point does a baby get human rights, in your view?," McCain answered "At the moment of conception." Obama's answer here was flaming-dirigible bad:

    Whether you are looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity is, you know, above my pay grade.

    That spectacularly inept metaphor is going to haunt Obama throughout the rest of the campaign. News flash: There's not a job on the planet above the pay grade of the President of the United States. If you can't solve every problem and are humble about it, that's fine — but you can't get away with being unsure about the most defining moral issue in politics. Of course, he didn't put down the shovel:

    But let me speak more generally about the issue of abortion. Because this is something, obviously, the country wrestles with. One thing that I’m absolutely convinced of is that there is a moral and ethical element to this issue. And So I think that anybody who tries to deny the moral difficulties and gravity of the abortion issue is not paying attention.

    So after completely hedging on the question and declining to give a specific answer — he wants to speak "more generally" about the issue? And, lo and behold, speak more generally he does: "I’m absolutely convinced of is that there is a moral and ethical element to this issue." In related news, Obama is also "absolutely convinced" that the sky is blue, water is wet and puppies are adorable. None of this, however, tells me a thing about his judgment and moral worldview.
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    Change and hope are good....:cuckoo:
     
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    Obama's priorities couldn't be more clear....

    1. Get out of Iraq
    2. Develop American Energy Independence
    3. Universal Healthcare

    If you want specifics, go to Obama's website.

    But you really don't, you just want to score cheap political points.
     
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    Obama's quote to this question...
    When asked "At what point does a baby get human rights, in your view?,"
    Obama's response....
    Whether you are looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity is, you know, above my pay grade.


    That is as clear as mud...
     
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    Sounds like humility to me.

    Something we haven't seen in the White House in quite a long time.
     
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    More like a dodge.


    I particularly like how he answered each question twice,once for each personality apparently.


    "I am Pro Choice,yet Anti Abortion." "Marriage should be between an Man and Women,But I'm also for Gay Unions".

    This guy is a Psycho.
     
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    I can't believe he said the specifics...were above his paygrade...:eusa_whistle:
     
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    More insults....

    There is a definite distinction between civil unions and marriage. Marriage is a religious entity, civil unions are a legal entity. Too suble a concept for you prehaps.
     
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    You have to admit...he tries to play both sides of the coin.
    Is that really a new type of politics?
    At least Mccain answered directly.
     
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    Obama's answer was direct.

    He believes in civil unions.
     
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    I am Pro-Choice but I am anti abortion....take a position
    MCcain supports civil unions as well but he said that marriage was between a man and a woman...
     

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