Truthseeker420
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But The Republicans didn't set the bar very high.
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Obama Not Perfect But Better than What We have Had
Obama Not Perfect But Better than What We have Had
Sure we can.Cant deny that
If much much more of the same is better, especially when change was promised..... Well. It actually isn't.Obama Not Perfect But Better than What We have Had
Premise fail.
There is nothing at all to like on either of those. Both merely give more power to an already bloated, wasteful, gluttonous and inefficient government.If much much more of the same is better, especially when change was promised..... Well. It actually isn't.Obama Not Perfect But Better than What We have Had
Premise fail.
I like the health care bill and thought the stimulus was good. I think people give too much credit and too much blame to the President for the economy but i think Obama has been the least destructive.
There is nothing at all to like on either of those. Both merely give more power to an already bloated, wasteful, gluttonous and inefficient government.If much much more of the same is better, especially when change was promised..... Well. It actually isn't.
Premise fail.
I like the health care bill and thought the stimulus was good. I think people give too much credit and too much blame to the President for the economy but i think Obama has been the least destructive.
Obama himself finally admitted the stimulus wouldn't bring any "shovel ready" jobs. It was sold partly because it was supposed to address our "infrastructure crisis" but it doesn't, never was designed to, now they are talking about another BIG spending bill to deal with infrastructure!
The health care law won't survive the courts, and it shouldn't. It's a piece of crap from jumpstreet. You're saying you like it, probably going to say "it has some good things in it," but no matter how much good ingredients like lettuce, tomato and pickles, even beef, it's still a shit sandwich and is NOT going to be any good.
Essentially your premise is "at least Obama is better than Booooosh" but you haven't provided one scrap of evidence which shows this.
Where's the change that was promised?
What's Obama done any different?Evidence? I can give you my opinion which you might(most likely) disagree but I think the four four presidents before Obama were very destructive to America.
Actually, he did. The Democrats in Congress joined up with some moderate repugs in the House, to stop it. This is where Pelosi's infamous quote came from, when asked if the Dems would present an alternate plan. She said, "Why should we put a plan out? Our plan is to stop HIM (Bush)"Oh...yes...Bush never tried to shove socialize medicine, that we don't want, don't need and can't afford, down our throats. I guess there is a difference.
I don't see a difference:
Had two wars--now we have three
Bush had stimulus-- Obama had stimulus
Still have Gitmo.
Still have the Patriot Act.
Still have a deficit.
Questions about the legitimacy of both Presidencies.
Both are hated by the other party.
Oh...yes...Bush never tried to shove socialize medicine, that we don't want, don't need and can't afford, down our throats. I guess there is a difference.
Actually, he did. The Democrats in Congress joined up with some moderate repugs in the House, to stop it. This is where Pelosi's infamous quote came from, when asked if the Dems would present an alternate plan. She said, "Why should we put a plan out? Our plan is to stop HIM (Bush)"Oh...yes...Bush never tried to shove socialize medicine, that we don't want, don't need and can't afford, down our throats. I guess there is a difference.
Teddy Kennedy actually worked with Bush, on that HC plan. Dems hated it because it included tort reform, competition across state lines, and the bill was only 600 pages, not 2000.
If Obama really wanted it closed, the GOP could not have stopped him. He had a super majority Congress.If you remember Republicans blocked any attempt to close Gitmo.
Link to back this assertion?Bush Stimulus created more wealth for the rich and Obama stimulus created jobs.
Obama is following the plan Bush already had in motion for Iraq. Nothing new there. Except now we have a third war.Our troops are pulling out of Iraq.(less than 30,000 I believe).
But The Republicans didn't set the bar very high.
I don't see a difference:
Had two wars--now we have three
Bush had stimulus-- Obama had stimulus
Still have Gitmo.
Still have the Patriot Act.
Still have a deficit.
Questions about the legitimacy of both Presidencies.
Both are hated by the other party.
Oh...yes...Bush never tried to shove socialize medicine, that we don't want, don't need and can't afford, down our throats. I guess there is a difference.
If you remember Republicans blocked any attempt to close Gitmo. Bush Stimulus created more wealth for the rich and Obama stimulus created jobs. Our troops are pulling out of Iraq.(less than 30,000 I believe).
If Obama really wanted it closed, the GOP could not have stopped him. He had a super majority Congress.If you remember Republicans blocked any attempt to close Gitmo.Link to back this assertion?Bush Stimulus created more wealth for the rich and Obama stimulus created jobs.Obama is following the plan Bush already had in motion for Iraq. Nothing new there. Except now we have a third war.Our troops are pulling out of Iraq.(less than 30,000 I believe).
If Obama really wanted it closed, the GOP could not have stopped him. He had a super majority Congress.If you remember Republicans blocked any attempt to close Gitmo.Link to back this assertion?Bush Stimulus created more wealth for the rich and Obama stimulus created jobs.Obama is following the plan Bush already had in motion for Iraq. Nothing new there. Except now we have a third war.Our troops are pulling out of Iraq.(less than 30,000 I believe).
I don't see a difference:
Had two wars--now we have three
Bush had stimulus-- Obama had stimulus
Still have Gitmo.
Still have the Patriot Act.
Still have a deficit.
Questions about the legitimacy of both Presidencies.
Both are hated by the other party.
Oh...yes...Bush never tried to shove socialize medicine, that we don't want, don't need and can't afford, down our throats. I guess there is a difference.
If you remember Republicans blocked any attempt to close Gitmo. Bush Stimulus created more wealth for the rich and Obama stimulus created jobs. Our troops are pulling out of Iraq.(less than 30,000 I believe).
Democrats controlled both houses. How could they have been stopped in 09?
The majority of both stimulus whet to financial sector.
We are still there. (Iraq)
He DID have, the Blue Dogs were outvoted several times. On several key issues.If Obama really wanted it closed, the GOP could not have stopped him. He had a super majority Congress.Link to back this assertion?If you remember Republicans blocked any attempt to close Gitmo.Obama is following the plan Bush already had in motion for Iraq. Nothing new there. Except now we have a third war.Our troops are pulling out of Iraq.(less than 30,000 I believe).
He did not! Do you know what a blue dog democrat is? Serious question.