Obama.. Flaming out..

[The Rabbi]

Everything is relative, dude.

Obama, the leader of the blue team, is still viewed more favorably than the leaders of the red team.

McConnell is the leader of the red team.

I agree. The leader of red team is viewed less favorably than the head of blue team. But, it don't mean squat with respect to the November elections. The real campaigning hasn't even started yet.

I've reported your post for violating TOS. Please read the rules.

There is no "red team" or "blue team". There are Democrats and there are Republicans. They both span a wide spectrum of political philosophies and are ultimately answerable only to voters.
Obama is the POTUS. This election will largely be a referendum on how well his policies have worked. I certainly hope that is the case.

 

[Micky G. Jagger]

McConnell is the leader of the red team.

I agree. The leader of red team is viewed less favorably than the head of blue team. But, it don't mean squat with respect to the November elections. The real campaigning hasn't even started yet.

I've reported your post for violating TOS. Please read the rules.

Rules are for little people, like you.

 

[boedicca]

I agree. The leader of red team is viewed less favorably than the head of blue team. But, it don't mean squat with respect to the November elections. The real campaigning hasn't even started yet.

I've reported your post for violating TOS. Please read the rules.

Rules are for little people, like you.

Quoted for posterity.

Typical elitist comment from a rabid moonbat exemplifying how much the hardcore left disdains humanity.

 

[The Rabbi]

I've reported your post for violating TOS. Please read the rules.

Rules are for little people, like you.

Quoted for posterity.

Typical elitist comment from a rabid moonbat exemplifying how much the hardcore left disdains humanity.

One little post. So much truth.
Can't rep you again but you're repped in my heart.

 

[California Girl]

I agree. The leader of red team is viewed less favorably than the head of blue team. But, it don't mean squat with respect to the November elections. The real campaigning hasn't even started yet.

I've reported your post for violating TOS. Please read the rules.

Rules are for little people, like you.

Something tells me you haven't met the Mods here yet..... Or the Admins.


Please God, let me be here when little Micky meets Big Gunny, or the Crimson White guy.

 

[Micky G. Jagger]

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. - Winston Churchill

Winston Churchill was a socialist, dude.

Freedom of enterprise and freedom of service are not possible without elaborate systems of safeguards against failure, accident or misfortune. We seek to erect balustrades upon the stairway of life, which will prevent helpless or foolish people from falling into the abyss.

--Winston Churchill; Speech to the Conservative Party Conference; 1946​

 

[boedicca]

I'm not a dude, you pathetic moron. And quoting out of context is a cheap rhetorical device.

He wasn't a socialist by any stretch of the imagination.

Winston Churchill, election broadcast (May, 1945) "I must tell you that a socialist policy is abhorrent to British ideas on freedom. There is to be one State, to which all are to be obedient in every act of their lives. This State, once in power, will prescribe for everyone: where they are to work, what they are to work at, where they may go and what they may say, what views they are to hold, where their wives are to queue up for the State ration, and what education their children are to receive. A socialist state could not afford to suffer opposition - no socialist system can be established without a political police. They (the Labour government) would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo."

http://www.conservapedia.com/Winston_Churchill

 

[saveliberty]

Maybe an over simplificationm but if Bush was really bad and Obama is using most of his policies at this point, and you add the socialist aspects of Obama, the worst is not a big leap.

 

[Jack Fate]

That's funny stuff...."Churchill was a socialist"..... That's right up there with "Jesus was a liberal".

 

[Micky G. Jagger]

I introduced the first Unemployment Insurance Scheme, and I shaped and carried the Widows' Pensions and reduction of the Old Age Pensions from 70 to 65. We are now moving forward into another vast scheme of national insurance.
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--Winston Churchill (1946)​

Note: Old Age Pensions are the British version of American "Social Security."

 

[boedicca]

A misguided policy, but not one that proves he was a socialist. It wouldn't hurt you to read some history regarding the devastation the U.K. faced in the aftermath of WWII, either, bub.

 

[Micky G. Jagger]

That's funny stuff...."Churchill was a socialist"..... That's right up there with "Jesus was a liberal".

It is an essential principle of Conservative policy to defend the general public against the evils of private corporations.

----Winston Churchill (1946)​

 

[boedicca]

Another misguided quote. A true conservative is against Big Government Corporatism - and would support preventing the collusion of Big Government with Large Corporations.

You quoted out of context, here is the full sentence:

It is an essential principle of Conservative, Unionist, and Tory policy-call it what you will to defend the general public against abuses by monopolies and against restraints on trade and enterprise, whether these evils come from private corporations, from the mischievous plans of doctrinaire Governments, or from the incompetence and arbitrariness of departments of State

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1946churchill-conservatism.html

 

[Micky G. Jagger]

He wasn't a socialist by any stretch of the imagination.

So, why did he advocate a welfare state?

 

[boedicca]

Because he was not infallible and made a mistake as a much younger man. He introduced that legislation 35 yearss before the date of your quote.

Politicians are not always consistent with their stated philosophy - that's what makes them politicians.

 

[Micky G. Jagger]

...the socialist aspects of Obama.

Huh? Obama has never advocated the establishment of a Socialist State, controlling the means of production, distribution and exchange.

 

[boedicca]

Uh, yes he has. The GM takeover and ObamaCare are to glaring examples (although they are fascist-socialists hybrids).

Obama is a totalitarian statist, fo shizzle.

 

[WillowTree]

I like Carter. I dunno when it came to be American Gospel that he sucked as a president....he was okay IMO.

You liked Carter? Really?

 

[Micky G. Jagger]

The GM takeover

The government doesn't control GM's means of production, distribution and exchange.

 

[boedicca]

The U.S. government currently owns 61% of GM. That is a controlling stake of the means of production, distribution and exchange.

Really. Try reading. You might learn something.