Obama, Clinton & Rape

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  1. Burp
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    Burp Always carry, never tell

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    Rut roh - Will they take a stand?

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    As first lady, senator and then Democratic candidate for president, Hillary Clinton was vocal in her fight for the rights of women in Afghanistan.

    But, as President Obama's secretary of state, Clinton now finds herself in the uncomfortable position of watching as the U.S.-backed Afghan president signs a law that critics say gives Shiite men the right to rape their wives.

    "As long as the husband is not traveling, he has the right to have sexual intercourse with his wife every fourth night," Article 132 of the law says. "Unless the wife is ill or has any kind of illness that intercourse could aggravate, the wife is bound to give a positive response to the sexual desires of her husband."

    Such a law runs contrary to the stated goals of the U.S. mission in Afghanistan -- to pursue human rights and to help liberate women from religious oppression. It is a cause that has been championed by previous administrations, and particularly by previous first ladies.

    The details of the law surfaced this week, just days after one of those former first ladies, Clinton, told the International Conference on Afghanistan at The Hague, Netherlands: "Women's rights are a central part of American foreign policy in the Obama administration; they are not marginal; they are not an add-on or an afterthought."

    Afghanistan's constitution, which was passed in 2004, calls for equal rights for all men and women. But the constitution also says that no law can contradict the laws of Islam. And in situations where the constitution lacks provisions, courts are allowed to use Islamic law, which critics say does not allow for equal rights.

    Reports suggest Karzai pushed through the law on behalf of powerful fundamentalist Shiite leaders, whose support he needs ahead of his country's August elections. The law will affect only Shiites, estimated by various sources to be between 10 and 30 percent of the population. The law will not affect Afghanistan's Sunni majority.

    Afghan Law That Legalizes Rape Poses Problem for Obama and Clinton - First 100 Days of Presidency - Politics FOXNews.com
     
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    You should do headlines for newspapers, I actually had to read that because of the title you chose ... LOL
     
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    Muahahahaha...it worked!

    LOL!
     
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    Interesting. My answer is: no.
     
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    To what specifically.
     
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    WorldAHope Ready to Rock n' Roll

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    I bet Hillary and Holbrooke and Obama will bring it when they talk to Karzai. Petraeus, too.
    None of them seem like the shy timid type.
     
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    Like Karzai cares a spit in a whirlwind. He is well aware of the fact that at the moment he controls Kabul and not much more and further that if he can't make a few deals with some of the trouble makers to get them on his side that isn't going to change. I don't like that particular crap but frankly you can't expect fourteenth century relics to leap into the 21st century over night and trying to compel it of them likely will just cause you more problems than it will solve.
     
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    We could use some Stimulus money to start huge goat and mountain hardy sheep farms,
    and use them as currency to bribe or coerce the Afghans to change a few things.
    Win - Win.
    And we get fresh fertilizer, too.
    Of course, we also need to extend the stick, as well as the carrot,.
    Cropdust with RoundUp a few big poppy farms into oblivion. They will get the message.
     
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    Then you'd have to have troops protecting the goatherds.
     
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    Get Bin Laden, then get the hell out. Should have been done that way in the first place.

    If you really desire a culture change in a place like Afghanistan, then you had best make the average man wealthy by present standards that exist there. If we had gone in, took out Bin Laden, then used local people to rebuild the infrastructure, flooded the place with computers, and given them a fast net, their present day culture would have already been dead. Religious fundementalism withers in the face of economic prosperity.
     

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