NY's Palodino: Let's create welfare prisons!

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Yet another crazy teabagger has come up with yet another crazy idea........


NEW YORK — Republican candidate for governor Carl Paladino said he would transform some New York prisons into dormitories for welfare recipients, where they could work in state-sponsored jobs, get employment training and take lessons in "personal hygiene."

Paladino, a wealthy Buffalo real estate developer popular with many tea party activists, isn't saying the state should jail poor people: The program would be voluntary.

But the suggestion that poor families would be better off in remote institutions, rather than among friends and family in their own neighborhoods, struck some anti-poverty activists as insulting.

Paladino is competing for the Republican nomination with former U.S. Rep. Rick Lazio. The primary is Sept. 14.

Paladino first described the idea in June at a meeting of The Journal News of White Plains and spoke about it again this week with The Associated Press.

Throughout his campaign, Paladino has criticized New York's rich menu of social service benefits, which he says encourages illegal immigrants and needy people to live in the state. He has promised a 20 percent reduction in the state budget and a 10 percent income tax cut if elected.

Asked at the meeting how he would achieve those savings, Paladino laid out several plans that included converting underused state prisons into centers that would house welfare recipients. There, they would do work for the state — "military service, in some cases park service, in other cases public works service," he said — while prison guards would be retrained to work as counselors.

NY candidate: Prison dorms for welfare recipients - Politics - msnbc.com

Discuss...........
 
Yet another crazy teabagger has come up with yet another crazy idea........


NEW YORK — Republican candidate for governor Carl Paladino said he would transform some New York prisons into dormitories for welfare recipients, where they could work in state-sponsored jobs, get employment training and take lessons in "personal hygiene."

Paladino, a wealthy Buffalo real estate developer popular with many tea party activists, isn't saying the state should jail poor people: The program would be voluntary.

But the suggestion that poor families would be better off in remote institutions, rather than among friends and family in their own neighborhoods, struck some anti-poverty activists as insulting.

Paladino is competing for the Republican nomination with former U.S. Rep. Rick Lazio. The primary is Sept. 14.

Paladino first described the idea in June at a meeting of The Journal News of White Plains and spoke about it again this week with The Associated Press.

Throughout his campaign, Paladino has criticized New York's rich menu of social service benefits, which he says encourages illegal immigrants and needy people to live in the state. He has promised a 20 percent reduction in the state budget and a 10 percent income tax cut if elected.

Asked at the meeting how he would achieve those savings, Paladino laid out several plans that included converting underused state prisons into centers that would house welfare recipients. There, they would do work for the state — "military service, in some cases park service, in other cases public works service," he said — while prison guards would be retrained to work as counselors.

NY candidate: Prison dorms for welfare recipients - Politics - msnbc.com

Discuss...........

Sounds like a pretty good idea.
 
I think it's pretty insulting to say anyone on welfare doesn't know personal hygiene. But maybe that's just me.

"Instead of handing out the welfare checks, we'll teach people how to earn their check. We'll teach them personal hygiene ... the personal things they don't get when they come from dysfunctional homes," Paladino said.
 
So, he doesn't want poor people in NY state? That a strong social safety net "encourages" these undesireables to DARE to want to live in New York? Ok, asshole. Say you've got your wish. Who will watch your kids, clean your pool, drive your car, cut your grass, dry clean your clothes and cook that Chinese take-out you love so much when these people are gone? Maybe all the "needy" and lowife poor people really should up and move out of New York. Good luck getting your wealthy friends to shine your shoes for you - won't be pretty, but I'd pay to watch. Just sayin'.
 
So, he doesn't want poor people in NY state? That a strong social safety net "encourages" these undesireables to DARE to want to live in New York? Ok, asshole. Say you've got your wish. Who will watch your kids, clean your pool, drive your car, cut your grass, dry clean your clothes and cook that Chinese take-out you love so much when these people are gone? Maybe all the "needy" and lowife poor people really should up and move out of New York. Good luck getting your wealthy friends to shine your shoes for you - won't be pretty, but I'd pay to watch. Just sayin'.

Please show where this was actually said by the guy... I can see where he said big social programs encourage people to live there.. but not where he 'does not want poor people in the state', etc
 
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Please show where this was actually said by the guy

Do you think people on welfare generally don't know personal hygiene?

Nice try at diversion...

I have known clean and dirty poor people, just as I have known clean and dirty middle and upper class people

I did not support or go against this idea... I was asking where peepers got their conclusion from... and also stated that the thread title was misleading
 
So, he doesn't want poor people in NY state? That a strong social safety net "encourages" these undesireables to DARE to want to live in New York? Ok, asshole. Say you've got your wish. Who will watch your kids, clean your pool, drive your car, cut your grass, dry clean your clothes and cook that Chinese take-out you love so much when these people are gone? Maybe all the "needy" and lowife poor people really should up and move out of New York. Good luck getting your wealthy friends to shine your shoes for you - won't be pretty, but I'd pay to watch. Just sayin'.

Actually, I think it's gonna be more like lock 'em up at night and send them out to work for the rich during the day.

Kinda like the Mexicans standing outside of Home Depot for day labor, but they'll get to go home at night, the poor people won't.
 
So, he doesn't want poor people in NY state? That a strong social safety net "encourages" these undesireables to DARE to want to live in New York? Ok, asshole. Say you've got your wish. Who will watch your kids, clean your pool, drive your car, cut your grass, dry clean your clothes and cook that Chinese take-out you love so much when these people are gone? Maybe all the "needy" and lowife poor people really should up and move out of New York. Good luck getting your wealthy friends to shine your shoes for you - won't be pretty, but I'd pay to watch. Just sayin'.
You want people to stay poor for your own needs.
 
Nice try at diversion...

I have known clean and dirty poor people, just as I have known clean and dirty middle and upper class people

I did not support or go against this idea... I was asking where peepers got their conclusion from... and also stated that the thread title was misleading

It's not diversion. I'm asking whether you agree with Carl here. There is no gotcha question, it's quite simple really.
 
Hmm, who would fill the vacancies in the "hood" they came from?

And I thought we had prison crowding problems in the USA?
Or is this a way to route tax dollars to private prison facs?
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYqF_BtIwAU]YouTube - f**k the poor[/ame]
 
Nice try at diversion...

I have known clean and dirty poor people, just as I have known clean and dirty middle and upper class people

I did not support or go against this idea... I was asking where peepers got their conclusion from... and also stated that the thread title was misleading

It's not diversion. I'm asking whether you agree with Carl here. There is no gotcha question, it's quite simple really.

As stated... known dirty and clean poor people, just as I have in every other class of income.... I could say there are many from all over the spectrum that could use a class on how to make themselves presentable and how to wash the stink out of their swamp ass... but being poor does not make someone inherently in need of hygiene classes
 
Please show where this was actually said by the guy... I can see where he said big social programs encourage people to live there.. but not where he 'does not want poor people in the state', etc

Well...

Throughout his campaign, Paladino has criticized New York's rich menu of social service benefits, which he says encourages illegal immigrants and needy people to live in the state.

What part of that is unclear?
 

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