CDZ NYC on track for lowest number of murders in decades

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    It’s a city so nice they named it twice!

    New York, New York.

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    278 homicides for a city of that size is admirable
     
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    When will you guys ever learn....this year they had a major crackdown on gangs...arreted a whole bunch of criminals, that is how you keep the murder rate low. Also, the gangs there aren't as interested in killing each other...another factor. Chicago has the same strict gun control...Baltimore has even stricter gun control and has more gun murders than New York.....

    Baltimore has every single gun control law that New York has, and even more......

    At 278, Baltimore has more homicides so far this year than New York and more per-capita than Chicago

    At 278, Baltimore has more homicides so far this year than New York and more per-capita than Chicag

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    Population of cities 2016:


    N.Y................8.5 million

    Baltimore......620,961


    Murder rate 2016:


    N.Y................335

    Baltimore......318
     
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    This is one of the reasons......it isn't law abiding gun owners who do the shooting...so focusing on them is pointless...you focus on actual criminals...like this...and using federal charges helps a lot....

    Monster Gang Bust Snares Dozens in NYC

    Nearly three dozen members of violent gangs based in the south Bronx face federal charges including racketeering, selling crack cocaine and marijuana and firearms offenses, according to court papers.

    Court papers also describe two separate alleged attempts to murder rival gang members.

    Federal agents and NYPD officers began rounding up the suspects early Wednesday. The raids and arrests were conducted by DEA and FBI agents, along with NYPD, and were centered in and around the Mill Brook Houses, a public housing project located in the Mott Haven section of the Bronx, officials said.
     
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    And another reason....Balitmore and Chicago have gone all in on the Ferguson Effect.....which means their cops are not proactively policing the city...they are simply waiting for call outs........

    One Third of Last Year's Homicide Increase in the US Due To Chicago - The Truth About Guns

    Maybe Mayor Rahm will want to re-think that whole ‘no troops in my town’ attitude . . . ONE-THIRD Of U.S. Homicide Spike Coming From 5 Chicago Neighborhoods

    Murders in the U.S. rose nearly 9% last year, and one-third of that increase came from just a few neighborhoods in Chicago, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of the FBI’s annual 2016 publication, Crime in the United States.

    While violent crime (homicide, rape, assault, and robbery) also rose nationwide from 2015 to 2016 — over 4% — the data show the increase was not uniform, but rather concentrated in cities like Chicago and Baltimore.

    Do tell. It’s almost as if the city’s catch-and-release law enforcement systemisn’t really working. Oh, and there’s this:

    Interestingly, the paper’s neighborhood-by-neighborhood analysis claimed that areas where homicides spiked had a “lighter street presence by police following officers’ high-profile killings of young black men.”

    Can you say “Ferguson effect”? Maybe the Windy City’s worst neighborhoods are becoming unofficial no-go-zones for Chicago’s finest.

    In Chicago, as in Baltimore, police became less proactive following protests against the fatal 2014 shooting of a black teenager, Laquan McDonald, by a white police officer, Jason Van Dyke, who has been charged with first-degree murder.
     
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    And here....Chicago still isn't taking their gun criminals seriously, dittos Baltimore...

    Quote of the Day: Chicago's Law Enforcement Cycle of Failure - The Truth About Guns

    “A lot of the shootings occur by repeat gun offenders, which are with the gangs. So when those guys get picked up, for whatever reason, who do you think the gangs are going to bail out first? They bail out the shooters because they are the most valuable pieces to that gang organization. Because they aren’t afraid to use violence to get their message across. So what we see is just an unbelievable cycle of CPD arresting these guys, and then for whatever reason, the judicial system spits them right back out, only to be dealt with … again.” – Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson in Cook County courts raise bonds for gun crimes — but suspects getting out faster [via chicagotribune.com]
     
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    This is why chicago has a high gun murder rate....vs. New York....but New York will catch up....

    Cook County courts raise bonds for gun crimes — but suspects getting out faster

    Despite increasingly high bonds, the opposite has happened — the same group of those charged with gun crimes is getting out of jail more than twice as fast as they were four years ago, according to a Tribune analysis of jail data of arrests and bonds.

    At the same time, the Chicago Police Department is making fewer gun arrests and recovering fewer guns. From 2012 through the end of last year, the number of guns recovered fell by 33 percent and the number of arrests dropped by nearly 9 percent overall despite a recent uptick, according to department figures.
     
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    New York has the strictest gun laws in the nation....by far

    They also have historic low homicide rates

    A lesson other cities need to follow
     
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    Strict gun laws = Low Homicide Rates
     

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