Now hear this. If companies follow obamacare law, they violate another law.

Theowl32

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It is required by obamacare for corporations to encourage wellness among their employees for chronic ailments like depression, hypertension or obesity along with many other things. THAT IS REQUIRED BY OBAMACARE.

Here is the kicker. Keep in mind now, the government enforces both laws.


IF A CORPORATION DOES ASK THEIR EMPLOYEES IF THEY NEED THESE PROGRAMS THEY VIOLATE THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT.

So, the corporations violate the law (obamacare requirements) if they do not ask employees if they need this wellness program, AND they violate another law if they ask them.

Exclusive U.S. CEOs threaten to pull tacit Obamacare support over wellness spat - Yahoo News

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Leading U.S. CEOs, angered by the Obama administration's challenge to certain "workplace wellness" programs, are threatening to side with anti-Obamacare forces unless the government backs off, according to people familiar with the matter.

Major U.S. corporations have broadly supported President Barack Obama's healthcare reform despite concerns over several of its elements, largely because it included provisions encouraging the wellness programs.

The programs aim to control healthcare costs by reducing smoking, obesity, hypertension and other risk factors that can lead to expensive illnesses. A bipartisan provision in the 2010 healthcare reform law allows employers to reward workers who participate and penalize those who don't.

But recent lawsuits filed by the administration's Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), challenging the programs at Honeywell International and two smaller companies, have thrown the future of that part of Obamacare into doubt.

The lawsuits infuriated some large employers so much that they are considering aligning themselves with Obama's opponents, according to people familiar with the executives' thinking.

"The fact that the EEOC sued is shocking to our members," said Maria Ghazal, vice-president and counsel at the Business Roundtable, a group of chief executives of more than 200 large U.S. corporations. "They don't understand why a plan in compliance with the ACA (Affordable Care Act) is the target of a lawsuit," she said. "This is a major issue to our members."

"There have been conversations at the most senior levels of the administration about this," she added.

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The obama administration is suing a company that is acting in compliance with obamacare. If they do not comply with ACA, they also get sued.

LOL!!!

Again, this is for those of us who pay our own bills, and work for a living. The board left wing morons will have no idea what this means, and so therefore they will not care.
 
Assuming this is correct, it doesn't matter.

Private business is the enemy and must pay up.

They didn't build that, it belongs to everyone.

Actually, I've never understood private industry's desire to support a system that is more expensive for them, makes them administrators of health care plans, and makes them less competitive than their German and Japanese counterparts.

But it's about the power thing for them. NOthing like threatening the health of the Wage Slave's family to make him work harder.
 
Assuming this is correct, it doesn't matter.

Private business is the enemy and must pay up.

They didn't build that, it belongs to everyone.

Actually, I've never understood private industry's desire to support a system that is more expensive for them, makes them administrators of health care plans, and makes them less competitive than their German and Japanese counterparts.

But it's about the power thing for them. NOthing like threatening the health of the Wage Slave's family to make him work harder.

What is needed, lil' Joe, is a bigger more controlling central government...right?

Lets do the every thing we KNOW will not work....because we are INSANE!!!
 
What is needed, lil' Joe, is a bigger more controlling central government...right?

Lets do the every thing we KNOW will not work....because we are INSANE!!!

Government run health care works fine in

Germany. Japan. The UK. Canada. Italy. France. Most of the rest of Europe. South Korea. Taiwan.

Insanity is pretending the rest of the world doesn't exist because you have some fear of government.

Did a bad old public school teacher tell you that you couldn't have all the toys once?
 
What is needed, lil' Joe, is a bigger more controlling central government...right?

Lets do the every thing we KNOW will not work....because we are INSANE!!!

Government run health care works fine in

Germany. Japan. The UK. Canada. Italy. France. Most of the rest of Europe. South Korea. Taiwan.

Insanity is pretending the rest of the world doesn't exist because you have some fear of government.

Did a bad old public school teacher tell you that you couldn't have all the toys once?

No it doesn't:

 
What is needed, lil' Joe, is a bigger more controlling central government...right?

Lets do the every thing we KNOW will not work....because we are INSANE!!!

Government run health care works fine in

Germany. Japan. The UK. Canada. Italy. France. Most of the rest of Europe. South Korea. Taiwan.

Insanity is pretending the rest of the world doesn't exist because you have some fear of government.

Did a bad old public school teacher tell you that you couldn't have all the toys once?

You keep deluding yourself.

Yeah the gov run VA works great.

Ignore all the reports of gov failed HC in socialized nations, and believe in fairy tales.

You believe in fairy tales Lil' Joe?
 
No it doesn't:
You keep deluding yourself.

Yeah the gov run VA works great.

Ignore all the reports of gov failed HC in socialized nations, and believe in fairy tales.

You believe in fairy tales Lil' Joe?

Every time I've dealt with the VA, it's been just fine. Now we do have a problem in that some asshole lied us into a war and didn't take into account that we were adding millions of new people into that system.

As far as "Reports"-

These countries spend less than we do, they have longer life expectencies, they have lower infant mortality rates and the have higher rates of overall wellness.
 
No it doesn't:
You keep deluding yourself.

Yeah the gov run VA works great.

Ignore all the reports of gov failed HC in socialized nations, and believe in fairy tales.

You believe in fairy tales Lil' Joe?

Every time I've dealt with the VA, it's been just fine. Now we do have a problem in that some asshole lied us into a war and didn't take into account that we were adding millions of new people into that system.

As far as "Reports"-

These countries spend less than we do, they have longer life expectencies, they have lower infant mortality rates and the have higher rates of overall wellness.[/QUOT


You are a veteran?

Which service?
 
No it doesn't:
You keep deluding yourself.

Yeah the gov run VA works great.

Ignore all the reports of gov failed HC in socialized nations, and believe in fairy tales.

You believe in fairy tales Lil' Joe?

Every time I've dealt with the VA, it's been just fine. Now we do have a problem in that some asshole lied us into a war and didn't take into account that we were adding millions of new people into that system.

As far as "Reports"-

These countries spend less than we do, they have longer life expectencies, they have lower infant mortality rates and the have higher rates of overall wellness.[/QUOT


You are a veteran?

Which service?

Army-

5 years as a reservist, six years active duty. MOS 76Y30, if you are really interested.
 
No it doesn't:
You keep deluding yourself.

Yeah the gov run VA works great.

Ignore all the reports of gov failed HC in socialized nations, and believe in fairy tales.

You believe in fairy tales Lil' Joe?

Every time I've dealt with the VA, it's been just fine. Now we do have a problem in that some asshole lied us into a war and didn't take into account that we were adding millions of new people into that system.

As far as "Reports"-

These countries spend less than we do, they have longer life expectencies, they have lower infant mortality rates and the have higher rates of overall wellness.[/QUOT


You are a veteran?

Which service?
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Assuming this is correct, it doesn't matter.

Private business is the enemy and must pay up.

They didn't build that, it belongs to everyone.

Actually, I've never understood private industry's desire to support a system that is more expensive for them, makes them administrators of health care plans, and makes them less competitive than their German and Japanese counterparts.

But it's about the power thing for them. NOthing like threatening the health of the Wage Slave's family to make him work harder.
You understand corporations wouldn't give a shit if the federal government didnt mandate it, right?
No, of course not. You're "Clueless Joe", not the biggest dumbshit on this board only because competitoon is steep.
 
You understand corporations wouldn't give a shit if the federal government didnt mandate it, right?
No, of course not. You're "Clueless Joe", not the biggest dumbshit on this board only because competitoon is steep.

Corporations offer health care because it's expected as a fringe benefit for any decent job. Except a lot of find out that what we end up getting is a lot of paper.

Back to my point- We spend 17% of our GDP on Health Care, compared to the rest of the industrialized world which spends about 8 to 11%. And since that is processed through employers, it means that cost is added onto the expense of every car built and every hamburger served. It's a needlessly expensive way to do things that involves payouts to shareholders and executives who add really nothing to the process.
 

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