November 29, 1947: War, Ethnic Cleaning Unleashed

[P F Tinmore]

You just posted that.

There is no map there.

 

[JStone]

You just posted that.

There is no map there.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/4475869-post34.html

 

[P F Tinmore]

Pages of blabber.

But no map.

Is there a 1948 map of Israel?

 

[JStone]

Pages of blabber.

But no map.

Is there a 1948 map of Israel?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/4475869-post34.html

 

[P F Tinmore]

There must not have been an Israel in 1948 since there is no map.

 

[JStone]

There must not have been an Israel in 1948 since there is no map.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/4475869-post34.html

 

[P F Tinmore]

Somebody

Anybody

Post a 1948 map of Israel.

 

[JStone]

Somebody

Anybody

Post a 1948 map of Israel.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/4475869-post34.html

 

[P F Tinmore]

No Arab country attacked Israel in 1948.

That is merely propaganda.

 

[JStone]

No Arab country attacked Israel in 1948.

That is merely propaganda.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/4475869-post34.html

 

[P F Tinmore]

Nobody could have attacked Israel because there was no map to show where it was.

 

[JStone]

No Arab country attacked Israel in 1948.

That is merely propaganda.

Eminent Historian Sir Martin Gilbert, Author of Three Books on the History of Jerusalem ...

On 15 May, 1948 six Arab armies, those of Egypt, Syria, Transjordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Iraq, invaded Israel. They advanced rapidly, threatening to destroy the one-day old State and drive its citizens into the sea. The Israelis resisted and after ten days were able to counter-attack

Nonie Darwish, Author and Human Rights Activist Her father, Colonel Mustafa Hafez, was a senior intelligence officer in the Egyptian army during the '48 war.

My father came from a large middle-class Egyptian family. born in 1920, he fought against the new state of Israel in the War of 1948 when the Jewish state was first established. Arab countries from all sides invaded Israel to "drive it into the sea" That did not happen.
Now They Call Me Infidel: Why I ... - Nonie Darwish - Google Books

Lebanese American Fouad Ajami, Professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies and a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. He is co-chair of the Hoover Working Group on Islamism and the International Order.The Wall Street Journal, June 1, 2011

The [UN] vote in 1947 was viewed as Israel's basic title to independence and] statehood. The Palestinians and the Arab powers had rejected partition and chosen the path of war. Their choice was to prove calamitous.

By the time the guns had fallen silent, the Yishuv, the Jewish community in Palestine, had held its ground against the combined armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Iraq. Its forces stood on the shores of the Red Sea in the south, and at the foot of the Golan Heights in the north. Palestinian society had collapsed under the pressure of war. The elites had made their way to neighboring lands. Rural communities had been left atomized and leaderless. The cities had fought, and fallen, alone. '"

Palestine had become a great Arab shame. Few Arabs were willing to tell the story truthfully, to face its harsh verdict. Henceforth the Palestinians would live on a vague idea of restoration and return. No leader had the courage to tell the refugees who had left Acre and Jaffa and Haifa that they could not recover the homes and orchards of their imagination.

Some had taken the keys to their houses with them to Syria and Lebanon and across the river to Jordan. They were no more likely to find political satisfaction than the Jews who had been banished from Baghdad and Beirut and Cairo, and Casablanca and Fez, but the idea of return, enshrined into a "right of return," would persist. (Wadi Abu Jamil, the Jewish quarter of the Beirut of my boyhood, is now a Hezbollah stronghold, and no narrative exalts or recalls that old presence.)
Fouad Ajami: The U.N. Can't Deliver a Palestinian State - WSJ.com

 

[P F Tinmore]

More propaganda.

Still no map.

 

[JStone]

More propaganda.

Still no map.

Eminent Historian Sir Martin Gilbert, Author of Three Books on the History of Jerusalem ...

On 15 May, 1948 six Arab armies, those of Egypt, Syria, Transjordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Iraq, invaded Israel. They advanced rapidly, threatening to destroy the one-day old State and drive its citizens into the sea. The Israelis resisted and after ten days were able to counter-attack

Yale University Press

Sir Martin Gilbert is the author of more than eighty books, including the six-volume authorized biography of Winston Churchill, the twin histories First World War and Second World War, Israel: A History, The Holocaust, A History of the Twentieth Century in three volumes, and nine pioneering historical atlases, including Atlas of Jewish History and Atlas of the Arab-Israeli Conflict. In 1995, he was knighted for services to British history and international relations, and in 2009 he was appointed to the British Government’s Iraq War Inquiry. He lives in London.
In Ishmael's House - Gilbert, Martin - Yale University Press

Nonie Darwish, Author and Human Rights Activist Her father, Colonel Mustafa Hafez, was a senior intelligence officer in the Egyptian army during the '48 war.

My father came from a large middle-class Egyptian family. born in 1920, he fought against the new state of Israel in the War of 1948 when the Jewish state was first established. Arab countries from all sides invaded Israel to "drive it into the sea" That did not happen.
Now They Call Me Infidel: Why I ... - Nonie Darwish - Google Books

Lebanese American Fouad Ajami, Professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies and a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. He is co-chair of the Hoover Working Group on Islamism and the International Order.The Wall Street Journal, June 1, 2011

The [UN] vote in 1947 was viewed as Israel's basic title to independence and] statehood. The Palestinians and the Arab powers had rejected partition and chosen the path of war. Their choice was to prove calamitous.

By the time the guns had fallen silent, the Yishuv, the Jewish community in Palestine, had held its ground against the combined armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Iraq. Its forces stood on the shores of the Red Sea in the south, and at the foot of the Golan Heights in the north. Palestinian society had collapsed under the pressure of war. The elites had made their way to neighboring lands. Rural communities had been left atomized and leaderless. The cities had fought, and fallen, alone. '"

Palestine had become a great Arab shame. Few Arabs were willing to tell the story truthfully, to face its harsh verdict. Henceforth the Palestinians would live on a vague idea of restoration and return. No leader had the courage to tell the refugees who had left Acre and Jaffa and Haifa that they could not recover the homes and orchards of their imagination.

Some had taken the keys to their houses with them to Syria and Lebanon and across the river to Jordan. They were no more likely to find political satisfaction than the Jews who had been banished from Baghdad and Beirut and Cairo, and Casablanca and Fez, but the idea of return, enshrined into a "right of return," would persist. (Wadi Abu Jamil, the Jewish quarter of the Beirut of my boyhood, is now a Hezbollah stronghold, and no narrative exalts or recalls that old presence.)
Fouad Ajami: The U.N. Can't Deliver a Palestinian State - WSJ.com

 

[P F Tinmore]

Pages of blabber.

But no map.

 

[JStone]

Pages of blabber.

But no map.

Eminent Historian Sir Martin Gilbert, Author of Three Books on the History of Jerusalem ...

On 15 May, 1948 six Arab armies, those of Egypt, Syria, Transjordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Iraq, invaded Israel. They advanced rapidly, threatening to destroy the one-day old State and drive its citizens into the sea. The Israelis resisted and after ten days were able to counter-attack

Yale University Press...

Sir Martin Gilbert is the author of more than eighty books, including the six-volume authorized biography of Winston Churchill, the twin histories First World War and Second World War, Israel: A History, The Holocaust, A History of the Twentieth Century in three volumes, and nine pioneering historical atlases, including Atlas of Jewish History and Atlas of the Arab-Israeli Conflict. In 1995, he was knighted for services to British history and international relations, and in 2009 he was appointed to the British Government’s Iraq War Inquiry. He lives in London.

In Ishmael's House - Gilbert, Martin - Yale University Press

Nonie Darwish, Author and Human Rights Activist Her father, Colonel Mustafa Hafez, was a senior intelligence officer in the Egyptian army during the '48 war.

My father came from a large middle-class Egyptian family. born in 1920, he fought against the new state of Israel in the War of 1948 when the Jewish state was first established. Arab countries from all sides invaded Israel to "drive it into the sea" That did not happen.
Now They Call Me Infidel: Why I ... - Nonie Darwish - Google Books

Lebanese American Fouad Ajami, Professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies and a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. He is co-chair of the Hoover Working Group on Islamism and the International Order.The Wall Street Journal, June 1, 2011

The [UN] vote in 1947 was viewed as Israel's basic title to independence and] statehood. The Palestinians and the Arab powers had rejected partition and chosen the path of war. Their choice was to prove calamitous.

By the time the guns had fallen silent, the Yishuv, the Jewish community in Palestine, had held its ground against the combined armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Iraq. Its forces stood on the shores of the Red Sea in the south, and at the foot of the Golan Heights in the north. Palestinian society had collapsed under the pressure of war. The elites had made their way to neighboring lands. Rural communities had been left atomized and leaderless. The cities had fought, and fallen, alone. '"

Palestine had become a great Arab shame. Few Arabs were willing to tell the story truthfully, to face its harsh verdict. Henceforth the Palestinians would live on a vague idea of restoration and return. No leader had the courage to tell the refugees who had left Acre and Jaffa and Haifa that they could not recover the homes and orchards of their imagination.

Some had taken the keys to their houses with them to Syria and Lebanon and across the river to Jordan. They were no more likely to find political satisfaction than the Jews who had been banished from Baghdad and Beirut and Cairo, and Casablanca and Fez, but the idea of return, enshrined into a "right of return," would persist. (Wadi Abu Jamil, the Jewish quarter of the Beirut of my boyhood, is now a Hezbollah stronghold, and no narrative exalts or recalls that old presence.)
Fouad Ajami: The U.N. Can't Deliver a Palestinian State - WSJ.com

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel was attacked in 1948.

Israel's biggest lie.

 

[JStone]

Israel was attacked in 1948.

Israel's biggest lie.

Eminent Historian Sir Martin Gilbert, Author of Three Books on the History of Jerusalem ...

On 15 May, 1948 six Arab armies, those of Egypt, Syria, Transjordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Iraq, invaded Israel. They advanced rapidly, threatening to destroy the one-day old State and drive its citizens into the sea. The Israelis resisted and after ten days were able to counter-attack

Yale University Press...

Sir Martin Gilbert is the author of more than eighty books, including the six-volume authorized biography of Winston Churchill, the twin histories First World War and Second World War, Israel: A History, The Holocaust, A History of the Twentieth Century in three volumes, and nine pioneering historical atlases, including Atlas of Jewish History and Atlas of the Arab-Israeli Conflict. In 1995, he was knighted for services to British history and international relations, and in 2009 he was appointed to the British Government’s Iraq War Inquiry. He lives in London.

In Ishmael's House - Gilbert, Martin - Yale University Press

Nonie Darwish, Author and Human Rights Activist Her father, Colonel Mustafa Hafez, was a senior intelligence officer in the Egyptian army during the '48 war.

My father came from a large middle-class Egyptian family. born in 1920, he fought against the new state of Israel in the War of 1948 when the Jewish state was first established. Arab countries from all sides invaded Israel to "drive it into the sea" That did not happen.
Now They Call Me Infidel: Why I ... - Nonie Darwish - Google Books

Lebanese American Fouad Ajami, Professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies and a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. He is co-chair of the Hoover Working Group on Islamism and the International Order.The Wall Street Journal, June 1, 2011

The [UN] vote in 1947 was viewed as Israel's basic title to independence and] statehood. The Palestinians and the Arab powers had rejected partition and chosen the path of war. Their choice was to prove calamitous.

By the time the guns had fallen silent, the Yishuv, the Jewish community in Palestine, had held its ground against the combined armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Iraq. Its forces stood on the shores of the Red Sea in the south, and at the foot of the Golan Heights in the north. Palestinian society had collapsed under the pressure of war. The elites had made their way to neighboring lands. Rural communities had been left atomized and leaderless. The cities had fought, and fallen, alone. '"

Palestine had become a great Arab shame. Few Arabs were willing to tell the story truthfully, to face its harsh verdict. Henceforth the Palestinians would live on a vague idea of restoration and return. No leader had the courage to tell the refugees who had left Acre and Jaffa and Haifa that they could not recover the homes and orchards of their imagination.

Some had taken the keys to their houses with them to Syria and Lebanon and across the river to Jordan. They were no more likely to find political satisfaction than the Jews who had been banished from Baghdad and Beirut and Cairo, and Casablanca and Fez, but the idea of return, enshrined into a "right of return," would persist. (Wadi Abu Jamil, the Jewish quarter of the Beirut of my boyhood, is now a Hezbollah stronghold, and no narrative exalts or recalls that old presence.)
Fouad Ajami: The U.N. Can't Deliver a Palestinian State - WSJ.com

 

[P F Tinmore]

So where is the map showing where Israel was attacked?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nobody could have attacked Israel because there was no map to show where it was.

Is that why the Arabs lost?

They couldn't find it? LOL!

So who did they really invade?