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The Cap and Tax Fiction - WSJ.com
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has put cap-and-trade legislation on a forced march through the House, and the bill may get a full vote as early as Friday. It looks as if the Democrats will have to destroy the discipline of economics to get it done.

Despite House Energy and Commerce Chairman Henry Waxman's many payoffs to Members, rural and Blue Dog Democrats remain wary of voting for a bill that will impose crushing costs on their home-district businesses and consumers. The leadership's solution to this problem is to simply claim the bill defies the laws of economics.

Their gambit got a boost this week, when the Congressional Budget Office did an analysis of what has come to be known as the Waxman-Markey bill. According to the CBO, the climate legislation would cost the average household only $175 a year by 2020. Edward Markey, Mr. Waxman's co-author, instantly set to crowing that the cost of upending the entire energy economy would be no more than a postage stamp a day for the average household. Amazing. A closer look at the CBO analysis finds that it contains so many caveats as to render it useless.

For starters, the CBO estimate is a one-year snapshot of taxes that will extend to infinity. Under a cap-and-trade system, government sets a cap on the total amount of carbon that can be emitted nationally; companies then buy or sell permits to emit CO2. The cap gets cranked down over time to reduce total carbon emissions.

To get support for his bill, Mr. Waxman was forced to water down the cap in early years to please rural Democrats, and then severely ratchet it up in later years to please liberal Democrats. The CBO's analysis looks solely at the year 2020, before most of the tough restrictions kick in. As the cap is tightened and companies are stripped of initial opportunities to "offset" their emissions, the price of permits will skyrocket beyond the CBO estimate of $28 per ton of carbon. The corporate costs of buying these expensive permits will be passed to consumers.

The biggest doozy in the CBO analysis was its extraordinary decision to look only at the day-to-day costs of operating a trading program, rather than the wider consequences energy restriction would have on the economy. The CBO acknowledges this in a footnote: "The resource cost does not indicate the potential decrease in gross domestic product (GDP) that could result from the cap."

The hit to GDP is the real threat in this bill. The whole point of cap and trade is to hike the price of electricity and gas so that Americans will use less. These higher prices will show up not just in electricity bills or at the gas station but in every manufactured good, from food to cars. Consumers will cut back on spending, which in turn will cut back on production, which results in fewer jobs created or higher unemployment. Some companies will instead move their operations overseas, with the same result.

When the Heritage Foundation did its analysis of Waxman-Markey, it broadly compared the economy with and without the carbon tax. Under this more comprehensive scenario, it found Waxman-Markey would cost the economy $161 billion in 2020, which is $1,870 for a family of four. As the bill's restrictions kick in, that number rises to $6,800 for a family of four by 2035.

Note also that the CBO analysis is an average for the country as a whole. It doesn't take into account the fact that certain regions and populations will be more severely hit than others -- manufacturing states more than service states; coal producing states more than states that rely on hydro or natural gas. Low-income Americans, who devote more of their disposable income to energy, have more to lose than high-income families.

Even as Democrats have promised that this cap-and-trade legislation won't pinch wallets, behind the scenes they've acknowledged the energy price tsunami that is coming. During the brief few days in which the bill was debated in the House Energy Committee, Republicans offered three amendments: one to suspend the program if gas hit $5 a gallon; one to suspend the program if electricity prices rose 10% over 2009; and one to suspend the program if unemployment rates hit 15%. Democrats defeated all of them.

The reality is that cost estimates for climate legislation are as unreliable as the models predicting climate change. What comes out of the computer is a function of what politicians type in. A better indicator might be what other countries are already experiencing. Britain's Taxpayer Alliance estimates the average family there is paying nearly $1,300 a year in green taxes for carbon-cutting programs in effect only a few years.

Americans should know that those Members who vote for this climate bill are voting for what is likely to be the biggest tax in American history. Even Democrats can't repeal that reality.

keep telling yourself that Cap and rape is good for us. maybe the tooth fairy will leave you an extra quarter under your pillow to help with your rising energy costs
 
E-mailed my Representitive, Ike Skelton (D) this morning at http://www.house.gov/skelton/email.shtml.
The American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 will be an economic burden on Missourians during these tough economic times.

We both know businesses will pass this increase onto their customers, customers who are already struggling to make ends meet.

I urge you to break from the Democratic Caucus and vote NO on the American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009.

Your Constituent,
[Missourian]


 
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Funny, the CBO found numbers significantly lower than the heritage foundation numbers. Why would you continue to use false numbers?
Don't you understand that even a small increase is death to many poor and old people on fixed incomes?

How could anyone support this drivel, its a daggar in the heart of the little guy.
 
It's probably a bit late to contact your representative now, but just in case your Rep happens to be one of the "fence sitters" here's a tally of expected votes and who's on the fence. well I can't seem to post it because I haven't posted enough to post URLs=( If you google waxman-markey bill and go under google news and look under the link for the examiner's article it has a link to a PDF that shows whos undecided. This count was updated today according to their site.

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I have already sent mine in to. This bill is nothing but a bunch of B.S.

No other country in the world is doing this:

So if Nancy Pelosi, Al Gore & Barrack Obama can figure out how to keep our air over the United States, versus wandering off to other countries, maybe they can convince mother nature not to do a global melt around our shores?

That's how ridiculous this bill is.
 
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I do not approve of Cap & Trade, but I'll be damned if I am going to help Skull Pilot or any other right winger until they start helping us.

Help us:

Take back the Federal Reserve. (You cry about $2 trillion and the Fed spent $9 trill in the last 8 months)

Get Iraq to start paying for the occupation

Stop private companies like the oil companies and defense contractors from bankrupting the country.

Fix healthcare thru single payer reform

everything i do is in support of smaller, less expensive, less intrusive government. So getting rid of the Fed, I'm all for it.

I never supported Iraq and we should get out of Afghanistan too.

Government meddling in private companies, no help from me

Government gaining more control of my privacy via health care, no thanks.

Then you are a libertarian. A little better than GOP. Not much, but some.

How about government stopping the Robber Barons from ruining this country? You don't want government to protect us? There is a reason that unions came into existance. Corporations would have us working for $2 a day if they could get away with it.

How about private companies raping the treasury? How do you feel about that? Socializing the losses and privatizing the profits. Thats worse than socialism.

Government letting the healthcare companies raise their rates 191% since 2001? No thanks. Or doing nothing and letting the rates double again in the next 10 years until you, me and the companies we work for can't afford it? No thanks.
 
I do not approve of Cap & Trade, but I'll be damned if I am going to help Skull Pilot or any other right winger until they start helping us.

Help us:

Take back the Federal Reserve. (You cry about $2 trillion and the Fed spent $9 trill in the last 8 months)

Get Iraq to start paying for the occupation

Stop private companies like the oil companies and defense contractors from bankrupting the country.

Fix healthcare thru single payer reform

everything i do is in support of smaller, less expensive, less intrusive government. So getting rid of the Fed, I'm all for it.

I never supported Iraq and we should get out of Afghanistan too.

Government meddling in private companies, no help from me

Government gaining more control of my privacy via health care, no thanks.

Then you are a libertarian. A little better than GOP. Not much, but some.

I am not a libertarian though i do agree with much of the libertarian platform.

I unlike you am a true free thinker. A true independent who votes not the party line but the person and their philosophies.

How about government stopping the Robber Barons from ruining this country? You don't want government to protect us? There is a reason that unions came into existance. Corporations would have us working for $2 a day if they could get away with it.

Unions are not a government entity. I am no fan of unions. All they do is drive up the cost of doing business and therefore the cost of everything union companies produce. Unions have crippled our public education system as well. unions were needed once but not anymore.

How about private companies raping the treasury? How do you feel about that? Socializing the losses and privatizing the profits. Thats worse than socialism.

I never supported bailouts and you know that.

Government letting the healthcare companies raise their rates 191% since 2001? No thanks. Or doing nothing and letting the rates double again in the next 10 years until you, me and the companies we work for can't afford it? No thanks.

government health care will be a nightmare. You might pay less (I doubt it) but you you will get less and less so the price will effectively go up.
 

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