Note to President Obama: Want to Fix the Schools? Look to Portugal!

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    Don Tapscott: Note to President Obama: Want to Fix the Schools? Look to Portugal!

    Presently existing education is excessively similar to one-sided indoctrination. Such a situation necessitates the insertion of elements that encourage autodidactism.
     
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    Do a little search for drug laws in Portugal. ALL drugs are now legal but the use per capita DROPPED and is far below that of the fallen Mpyre.
    Portugal is a very progressive nation.
     
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    Until we make our Public School years longer and have the little darlings go to school on Saturday too and track like most other nations with good school systems...we will not be able to compare.

    We go at education in half measures...our children cannot help but notice.
     
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    Uh...the purpose of this article was to emphasize the necessary individual interest and self-management of the education process that cannot be stimulated by coercive measures. Your proposals seems to run directly counter to that.
     
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    Then it does, doesn't it?

    Again, we are NOT taking Public Education very seriously in this Country. We really aren't.
     
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    Sounds like a good idea...but as a teacher no one wants to do anything about it. Districts don't want to pay more money for the technology....parents don't want to pay any out of pocket expenses, not even for tissue, and tax payers sure aren't going to ante up the money for more spending on education. I LOVE your post about Portugal but good luck talking the American people into that!!! Obama needs to wake up and start helping out our kids....they are the future of America and we are doing them oh so wrong! Great post.
     
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    Your insight on Portugal's education system is appreciated, since I had no knowledge of it. But it will take more than Obama and increase technology in the schools to resolve the problem. The ultimate problem is at home were parents are not taking an active role in educating their children.

    Parents of failing students have a tendency to hold the educational system entirely responsible for their children's failure. However, they take no responsibility at all for their own children's failure. In fact these parents do not check to see if their children have done their homework, they rarely or do not attend PTA meetings. They don't take their kids to the bookstores or libraries to obtain books for them to read. Parents who cannot afford a computer, do not encourage their children to use the libraries' computers. They certainly don't show much interest in their children's education until there is a problem.

    I have personally witnessed this problem growing up in a Black community where I've have seen parents buy their children stylish clothes, video games and other unnecessary material things, yet would not buy a storybook for their kids. Also I have witness the same behaviour as an Admission Officer dealing with applicants who were not accepted in my programs. The first thing the parents do is blame the Guidance Counsellor and the school system. Ironically their children lived with them for 18 years and they had no idea how poorly the child was doing in school until they were not accepted at the college.
     
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    Until the schools get back to the principle of teaching math and solid scientific principles, history, geography, basic social studies, critical and logical thinking, reading along with reading comprehension, and ability to articulate concepts, principles, and context in written and spoken word, we will not improve our education system.

    As long as the state uses the schools to indoctrinate children and tell them what to think rather than how to think, we will not improve our education system.

    When the schools return to honest grading systems based on what the children learn and achieve and appreciate that real self esteem results from real accomplishment rather than social promotion, we will not improve our education system.

    And most importantly, until we abandom our systematic imposition of a sense of victimization and entitlement on people and return to a value system in which adults are accountable and take responsibility for parenting their children, we will not improve our education system nor will we stop the continued deterioration of our culture and quality of life.

    Those countries, including Portugal, that are doing the best job with their kids are more homogenous societies with shared values that do not force narrow ideology upon young minds. We don't have to all be of the same race or ethnicity or national origin to share a common conviction re what good education is. Right now we don't.
     
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    Obama will not reach out to improve the situation for our kids and the educational system. That would disrupt his plan to dimb down America. I don't believe he is an Americam nor do I believe he has any desire to improve this nation in any way. Take a look at what he is doing. Everything is about "the world" or other countries, or other cultures. Nothing he is doin g is about America in any way. That is the real picture.

    We need to stop this political destruction as soon as possible, in whatever way we can.

    You are correct about what the educational system needs (in part), and much of the wasted money that is being given out to the rest of the world needs to be placed into the youth of this nation. The way he is doing it, we will be a third worls nation very soon, unless we FIGHT back AGAINST him. That sounds unpatiotic, but it is 100% what America needs to claim back the freedom that we will be losing soon.

    Just one man's opinion.
     
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    While it is true that there is not a one-item quick-fix that will change our educational system, I believe we do need that aspect of change.

    With that said, I believe it is "apathy" on the part of profeccional educators, teachers, parents, and the regular citizen in America, that is wrecking the educational system. It is greed that is pushing it over the edge, and wrecking the econimic system.

    It is a lack of a consistent and boldly high moral and ethical standard that is eroding the whole American dream.

    Americans need to wake up! It is not Obama who is asleep, for he is quite aware of the damage he is doing. Look around, government officials are dropping off of his wagon daily, and will soon be leaving in droves. These people are waking up. They have figured it out. They know where Obama is headed.

    Apathy needs to be delivered a knockout punch before it puts America away forever.
     

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