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What kind of equipment is needed to drill geothermal holes???????? You know. The equipment is impossible to manufacture without using fossil fuels! The steel casings aren't made from bamboo!I think tidal power will always be rough to sustain especially with increased climate change. But we could do a lot more with geothermal if the govt really got behind it instead subsidizing oil, gas, and coal exploration. Iceland runs on it.
Fucking wise up!
How much 'fossil fuel' is required to build and safely maintain a nuclear power plant? How much 'fossil fuel is required to extract uranium from the ground and transport it safely to the nuclear power plant?EV's are just getting better and better, eventually they will supplant ICE vehicles; it doesn't have anything to do with what people want. This is how technology has always worked, and there are always people who have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the new best things. And there are always people who simply get left behind.
As for power generation, that's another place we need work. I think we need more Nuclear power out here.
How much 'fossil fuel' is required to build and safely maintain a nuclear power plant? How much 'fossil fuel is required to extract uranium from the ground and transport it safely to the nuclear power plant?EV's are just getting better and better, eventually they will supplant ICE vehicles; it doesn't have anything to do with what people want. This is how technology has always worked, and there are always people who have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the new best things. And there are always people who simply get left behind.
As for power generation, that's another place we need work. I think we need more Nuclear power out here.
How much 'fossil fuel' is required to manufacture batteries (which have a limited life span BTW?)
China, using slave labour, manufactures almost 100% of the solar panels and wind turbines and sells them to the US. That's not going to change. China will see to that.
Biden has promised to install 500K 'highway' charging stations. Where is the electricity needed to quick charge your Tesla while you eat your twenty dollar Big Mac? From ancient 'leaking' power lines coming from hydro electric stations five hundred miles away?What kind of equipment is needed to drill geothermal holes???????? You know. The equipment is impossible to manufacture without using fossil fuels! The steel casings aren't made from bamboo!I think tidal power will always be rough to sustain especially with increased climate change. But we could do a lot more with geothermal if the govt really got behind it instead subsidizing oil, gas, and coal exploration. Iceland runs on it.
Fucking wise up!
Nothing is ever emission free the point is to have a power source that in the net produces more emission free power than it takes to make the equipment.
Right now a car will pollute the air significantly more than the process to make the car does.
So where does the reactor fuel come from?How much 'fossil fuel' is required to build and safely maintain a nuclear power plant? How much 'fossil fuel is required to extract uranium from the ground and transport it safely to the nuclear power plant?EV's are just getting better and better, eventually they will supplant ICE vehicles; it doesn't have anything to do with what people want. This is how technology has always worked, and there are always people who have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the new best things. And there are always people who simply get left behind.
As for power generation, that's another place we need work. I think we need more Nuclear power out here.
How much 'fossil fuel' is required to manufacture batteries (which have a limited life span BTW?)
China, using slave labour, manufactures almost 100% of the solar panels and wind turbines and sells them to the US. That's not going to change. China will see to that.
We do not have to build light water reactors that need huge concrete and steel containment domes and we certainly do not have to mine uranium for reactor fuel.
Biden has promised to install 500K 'highway' charging stations. Where is the electricity needed to quick charge your Tesla while you eat your twenty dollar Big Mac? From ancient 'leaking' power lines coming from hydro electric stations five hundred miles away?What kind of equipment is needed to drill geothermal holes???????? You know. The equipment is impossible to manufacture without using fossil fuels! The steel casings aren't made from bamboo!I think tidal power will always be rough to sustain especially with increased climate change. But we could do a lot more with geothermal if the govt really got behind it instead subsidizing oil, gas, and coal exploration. Iceland runs on it.
Fucking wise up!
Nothing is ever emission free the point is to have a power source that in the net produces more emission free power than it takes to make the equipment.
Right now a car will pollute the air significantly more than the process to make the car does.
What about the other Tesla owners lined up behind you waiting for their charge-up?
So where does the reactor fuel come from?How much 'fossil fuel' is required to build and safely maintain a nuclear power plant? How much 'fossil fuel is required to extract uranium from the ground and transport it safely to the nuclear power plant?EV's are just getting better and better, eventually they will supplant ICE vehicles; it doesn't have anything to do with what people want. This is how technology has always worked, and there are always people who have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the new best things. And there are always people who simply get left behind.
As for power generation, that's another place we need work. I think we need more Nuclear power out here.
How much 'fossil fuel' is required to manufacture batteries (which have a limited life span BTW?)
China, using slave labour, manufactures almost 100% of the solar panels and wind turbines and sells them to the US. That's not going to change. China will see to that.
We do not have to build light water reactors that need huge concrete and steel containment domes and we certainly do not have to mine uranium for reactor fuel.
YesIts a cleaner energy for starters.
So, electricity used to power cars made by coal powered electric plants is cleaner than gasoline?
There is no mother earth. Quit the psycho green babble and celebrate whats been done. No need for more onerous regulations with things heading quickly in the right direction.Part of our problem is no one
Probably is worth some money like old radios...I'd hang on to it if I were you. Non sequitor. Are you aware that US emissions per capita are at 1950 levels? Now think what life was like then compared to now and marvel at that accomplishment.Like I’m sorry I bought a beeper. Or 8 track. Or mp3.No one is forcing you. You can keep your fossil fuel burner long after electric cars become the norm. I said inspire. Early adopters of most technology have regrets. However, those with vision can use that to change the world and make it a less poisonous place to live.USual BS...difference between inspire and force. Have posted on this site an EV i might buy if it lives up to its claims. Early Leaf buyers had nothing but regrets,Its hard to inspire conservatives. They have trouble visualizing anything past the next day.not really inspiring there bub..yeah they are working on it but arent closeOnly if youre a Qannon believer. Other people already know the facts about solar powered cars.that has yet to be proven,,"You do realize that the only way to generate enough electric power is through coal and oil...right?"You do realize an electric car is a electric powered device right?correct,, and then you started talking about electricity and other devices,,,What were you saying hasnt existed before? We were talking about electric powered cars.Post #6 you idiot.where did I say that???Youre the one claiming electric powered devices have not existed before. Are you stupid or just being paid to pretend you are?you cant be that stupid can you???Electricity has been around a long time.how can you know the long term effects on something that hasnt ever existed before??Maybe in Qannon circles but the rest of the world already knows this.that has yet to be proven,,Its a cleaner energy for starters.
Not everyone wants all electric automobiles
Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.www.usmessageboard.com
you should go back and read it,, cause thats not what I said,,
You do realize that the only way to generate enough electric power is through coal and oil...right? And the mining needed to make those batteries is as dirty or dirtier than using coal, oil and natural gas....and the batteries are environmental disasters when they are old and no longer working.......
You guys are so dumb........you don't think anything through...
False
Complete guide to solar vehicles: how do solar-powered cars work?
Here's all you need to know about solar-powered cars and how they work.interestingengineering.com
You wanna buy my Betamax?
I don't have to look anything up. I can go by my own life. BlackSnow, Dirty Air, polluted water and more. The Industrial Revolution of 1895 for the US had gotten completely out of control. Oh, lt's add mud slides where there once were forests. And let's not forget the dead fish and the gunk in the rivers. Corporate America gone crazy. Capitalists destroy everything if allowed all for a short term profit. Capitalism without the desired amount of Socialism (regulations) is a disaster.
We've come a very long way and we have not corrected it all yet. We owe it to Mother Earth to do better. I am High Country. While most of our beliefs coincide with Conservatives, one thing that is the MOST conservative of all is that we don't own the land. We are stewards put in place by God.
I come from a time long before the New Green Deal when we were caretakers. We took what we needed and protected everything else. In my younger days, I put out more feed than the cattle could eat just to help feed the Deer and the Elk during hard winters. I took a tree, I planted a tree. I cleared a wooded area only to help another wooded area. When forest fires started, WE were the first ones there long before the BLM or the Forest Service and many times, would contain the fire before it got out of hand.
We don't live up there anymore but we still have to make sure that we continue to be the stewards. It has nothing to do with politics.
How many thousands does it cost to have your own EV charging station at your home? Let alone the cost in your electric bill. The soon to be extinct middle class sure as hell can't afford to buy a EV.Biden has promised to install 500K 'highway' charging stations. Where is the electricity needed to quick charge your Tesla while you eat your twenty dollar Big Mac? From ancient 'leaking' power lines coming from hydro electric stations five hundred miles away?What kind of equipment is needed to drill geothermal holes???????? You know. The equipment is impossible to manufacture without using fossil fuels! The steel casings aren't made from bamboo!I think tidal power will always be rough to sustain especially with increased climate change. But we could do a lot more with geothermal if the govt really got behind it instead subsidizing oil, gas, and coal exploration. Iceland runs on it.
Fucking wise up!
Nothing is ever emission free the point is to have a power source that in the net produces more emission free power than it takes to make the equipment.
Right now a car will pollute the air significantly more than the process to make the car does.
What about the other Tesla owners lined up behind you waiting for their charge-up?
That's a real problem with EVs. But I do think EVs have a place. Most people drive less than 40 miles to work daily and less than that conducting daily business like shopping, going to the bank etc.
Personally this is where I think an EV is a good choice since it's the daily drive not the occasional long road trip that contribute to emissions and pollution
Most EVs come with a charger you can plug into a standard 120 volt wall socket or you can upgrade to a 240 volt charger for about 1200 dollarsHow many thousands does it cost to have your own EV charging station at your home? Let alone the cost in your electric bill. The soon to be extinct middle class sure as hell can't afford to buy a EV.Biden has promised to install 500K 'highway' charging stations. Where is the electricity needed to quick charge your Tesla while you eat your twenty dollar Big Mac? From ancient 'leaking' power lines coming from hydro electric stations five hundred miles away?What kind of equipment is needed to drill geothermal holes???????? You know. The equipment is impossible to manufacture without using fossil fuels! The steel casings aren't made from bamboo!I think tidal power will always be rough to sustain especially with increased climate change. But we could do a lot more with geothermal if the govt really got behind it instead subsidizing oil, gas, and coal exploration. Iceland runs on it.
Fucking wise up!
Nothing is ever emission free the point is to have a power source that in the net produces more emission free power than it takes to make the equipment.
Right now a car will pollute the air significantly more than the process to make the car does.
What about the other Tesla owners lined up behind you waiting for their charge-up?
That's a real problem with EVs. But I do think EVs have a place. Most people drive less than 40 miles to work daily and less than that conducting daily business like shopping, going to the bank etc.
Personally this is where I think an EV is a good choice since it's the daily drive not the occasional long road trip that contribute to emissions and pollution
"Guess what honey? I just got a raise to $15 an hour!. Now we can afford to buy that 80K Tesla and have a 10K charging station installed! "
In 1999 a flat screen TV cost $1,500! You can get eight TVs for that today.How many thousands does it cost to have your own EV charging station at your home? Let alone the cost in your electric bill. The soon to be extinct middle class sure as hell can't afford to buy a EV.Biden has promised to install 500K 'highway' charging stations. Where is the electricity needed to quick charge your Tesla while you eat your twenty dollar Big Mac? From ancient 'leaking' power lines coming from hydro electric stations five hundred miles away?What kind of equipment is needed to drill geothermal holes???????? You know. The equipment is impossible to manufacture without using fossil fuels! The steel casings aren't made from bamboo!I think tidal power will always be rough to sustain especially with increased climate change. But we could do a lot more with geothermal if the govt really got behind it instead subsidizing oil, gas, and coal exploration. Iceland runs on it.
Fucking wise up!
Nothing is ever emission free the point is to have a power source that in the net produces more emission free power than it takes to make the equipment.
Right now a car will pollute the air significantly more than the process to make the car does.
What about the other Tesla owners lined up behind you waiting for their charge-up?
That's a real problem with EVs. But I do think EVs have a place. Most people drive less than 40 miles to work daily and less than that conducting daily business like shopping, going to the bank etc.
Personally this is where I think an EV is a good choice since it's the daily drive not the occasional long road trip that contribute to emissions and pollution
"Guess what honey? I just got a raise to $15 an hour!. Now we can afford to buy that 80K Tesla and have a 10K charging station installed! "
You vill drive zee electic vehicles or you vill be shot!!!Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.
There is no mother earth. Quit the psycho green babble and celebrate whats been done. No need for more onerous regulations with things heading quickly in the right direction.Part of our problem is no one
Probably is worth some money like old radios...I'd hang on to it if I were you. Non sequitor. Are you aware that US emissions per capita are at 1950 levels? Now think what life was like then compared to now and marvel at that accomplishment.Like I’m sorry I bought a beeper. Or 8 track. Or mp3.No one is forcing you. You can keep your fossil fuel burner long after electric cars become the norm. I said inspire. Early adopters of most technology have regrets. However, those with vision can use that to change the world and make it a less poisonous place to live.USual BS...difference between inspire and force. Have posted on this site an EV i might buy if it lives up to its claims. Early Leaf buyers had nothing but regrets,Its hard to inspire conservatives. They have trouble visualizing anything past the next day.not really inspiring there bub..yeah they are working on it but arent closeOnly if youre a Qannon believer. Other people already know the facts about solar powered cars.that has yet to be proven,,"You do realize that the only way to generate enough electric power is through coal and oil...right?"You do realize an electric car is a electric powered device right?correct,, and then you started talking about electricity and other devices,,,What were you saying hasnt existed before? We were talking about electric powered cars.Post #6 you idiot.where did I say that???Youre the one claiming electric powered devices have not existed before. Are you stupid or just being paid to pretend you are?you cant be that stupid can you???Electricity has been around a long time.how can you know the long term effects on something that hasnt ever existed before??Maybe in Qannon circles but the rest of the world already knows this.that has yet to be proven,,Its a cleaner energy for starters.
Not everyone wants all electric automobiles
Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.
you should go back and read it,, cause thats not what I said,,
You do realize that the only way to generate enough electric power is through coal and oil...right? And the mining needed to make those batteries is as dirty or dirtier than using coal, oil and natural gas....and the batteries are environmental disasters when they are old and no longer working.......
You guys are so dumb........you don't think anything through...
False
Complete guide to solar vehicles: how do solar-powered cars work?
Here's all you need to know about solar-powered cars and how they work.
You wanna buy my Betamax?
I don't have to look anything up. I can go by my own life. BlackSnow, Dirty Air, polluted water and more. The Industrial Revolution of 1895 for the US had gotten completely out of control. Oh, lt's add mud slides where there once were forests. And let's not forget the dead fish and the gunk in the rivers. Corporate America gone crazy. Capitalists destroy everything if allowed all for a short term profit. Capitalism without the desired amount of Socialism (regulations) is a disaster.
We've come a very long way and we have not corrected it all yet. We owe it to Mother Earth to do better. I am High Country. While most of our beliefs coincide with Conservatives, one thing that is the MOST conservative of all is that we don't own the land. We are stewards put in place by God.
I come from a time long before the New Green Deal when we were caretakers. We took what we needed and protected everything else. In my younger days, I put out more feed than the cattle could eat just to help feed the Deer and the Elk during hard winters. I took a tree, I planted a tree. I cleared a wooded area only to help another wooded area. When forest fires started, WE were the first ones there long before the BLM or the Forest Service and many times, would contain the fire before it got out of hand.
We don't live up there anymore but we still have to make sure that we continue to be the stewards. It has nothing to do with politics.
I remember this commercial when I was a kid. What did conservative kids think when they saw this commercial? Instead of getting the message, they probably had a problem with the indian in the commercial because their parents were raising them to be racists.
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Yes. Gas burns dirty. Much dirtier than electricity. Didnt you know that?Its a cleaner energy for starters.
So, electricity used to power cars made by coal powered electric plants is cleaner than gasoline?
That was a white guy. I knew it the minute I saw the commercial.There is no mother earth. Quit the psycho green babble and celebrate whats been done. No need for more onerous regulations with things heading quickly in the right direction.Part of our problem is no one
Probably is worth some money like old radios...I'd hang on to it if I were you. Non sequitor. Are you aware that US emissions per capita are at 1950 levels? Now think what life was like then compared to now and marvel at that accomplishment.Like I’m sorry I bought a beeper. Or 8 track. Or mp3.No one is forcing you. You can keep your fossil fuel burner long after electric cars become the norm. I said inspire. Early adopters of most technology have regrets. However, those with vision can use that to change the world and make it a less poisonous place to live.USual BS...difference between inspire and force. Have posted on this site an EV i might buy if it lives up to its claims. Early Leaf buyers had nothing but regrets,Its hard to inspire conservatives. They have trouble visualizing anything past the next day.not really inspiring there bub..yeah they are working on it but arent closeOnly if youre a Qannon believer. Other people already know the facts about solar powered cars.that has yet to be proven,,"You do realize that the only way to generate enough electric power is through coal and oil...right?"You do realize an electric car is a electric powered device right?correct,, and then you started talking about electricity and other devices,,,What were you saying hasnt existed before? We were talking about electric powered cars.Post #6 you idiot.where did I say that???Youre the one claiming electric powered devices have not existed before. Are you stupid or just being paid to pretend you are?you cant be that stupid can you???Electricity has been around a long time.how can you know the long term effects on something that hasnt ever existed before??Maybe in Qannon circles but the rest of the world already knows this.that has yet to be proven,,Its a cleaner energy for starters.
Not everyone wants all electric automobiles
Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.
you should go back and read it,, cause thats not what I said,,
You do realize that the only way to generate enough electric power is through coal and oil...right? And the mining needed to make those batteries is as dirty or dirtier than using coal, oil and natural gas....and the batteries are environmental disasters when they are old and no longer working.......
You guys are so dumb........you don't think anything through...
False
Complete guide to solar vehicles: how do solar-powered cars work?
Here's all you need to know about solar-powered cars and how they work.
You wanna buy my Betamax?
I don't have to look anything up. I can go by my own life. BlackSnow, Dirty Air, polluted water and more. The Industrial Revolution of 1895 for the US had gotten completely out of control. Oh, lt's add mud slides where there once were forests. And let's not forget the dead fish and the gunk in the rivers. Corporate America gone crazy. Capitalists destroy everything if allowed all for a short term profit. Capitalism without the desired amount of Socialism (regulations) is a disaster.
We've come a very long way and we have not corrected it all yet. We owe it to Mother Earth to do better. I am High Country. While most of our beliefs coincide with Conservatives, one thing that is the MOST conservative of all is that we don't own the land. We are stewards put in place by God.
I come from a time long before the New Green Deal when we were caretakers. We took what we needed and protected everything else. In my younger days, I put out more feed than the cattle could eat just to help feed the Deer and the Elk during hard winters. I took a tree, I planted a tree. I cleared a wooded area only to help another wooded area. When forest fires started, WE were the first ones there long before the BLM or the Forest Service and many times, would contain the fire before it got out of hand.
We don't live up there anymore but we still have to make sure that we continue to be the stewards. It has nothing to do with politics.
I remember this commercial when I was a kid. What did conservative kids think when they saw this commercial? Instead of getting the message, they probably had a problem with the indian in the commercial because their parents were raising them to be racists.
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I have a 65" OLED that cost more than that. It depends on the size and picture quality.In 1999 a flat screen TV cost $1,500! You can get eight TVs for that today.How many thousands does it cost to have your own EV charging station at your home? Let alone the cost in your electric bill. The soon to be extinct middle class sure as hell can't afford to buy a EV.Biden has promised to install 500K 'highway' charging stations. Where is the electricity needed to quick charge your Tesla while you eat your twenty dollar Big Mac? From ancient 'leaking' power lines coming from hydro electric stations five hundred miles away?What kind of equipment is needed to drill geothermal holes???????? You know. The equipment is impossible to manufacture without using fossil fuels! The steel casings aren't made from bamboo!I think tidal power will always be rough to sustain especially with increased climate change. But we could do a lot more with geothermal if the govt really got behind it instead subsidizing oil, gas, and coal exploration. Iceland runs on it.
Fucking wise up!
Nothing is ever emission free the point is to have a power source that in the net produces more emission free power than it takes to make the equipment.
Right now a car will pollute the air significantly more than the process to make the car does.
What about the other Tesla owners lined up behind you waiting for their charge-up?
That's a real problem with EVs. But I do think EVs have a place. Most people drive less than 40 miles to work daily and less than that conducting daily business like shopping, going to the bank etc.
Personally this is where I think an EV is a good choice since it's the daily drive not the occasional long road trip that contribute to emissions and pollution
"Guess what honey? I just got a raise to $15 an hour!. Now we can afford to buy that 80K Tesla and have a 10K charging station installed! "
People that are stuck in the mud have problems with advancing in pretty much every category in life. These are people I call neanderthal emulators. They cant adapt so they die out. Thank goodness most humans are not as afraid of change as most conservatives.If we took fossil fuels, a finite resource, out of transportation alone, there would be a greater reserve for the other uses of oil. Chemicals, fertilizers, lubricants and plastics are all made from oil.
The exploration, drilling, transport and refining of oil all contribute to pollution and the worsening of the climate. Add tailpipe emissions and the necessity of electric transportation becomes clear.
What possible objections can be made to electric cars and trucks? I'm curious to find out.
I have a 65" OLED that cost more than that. It depends on the size and picture quality.In 1999 a flat screen TV cost $1,500! You can get eight TVs for that today.How many thousands does it cost to have your own EV charging station at your home? Let alone the cost in your electric bill. The soon to be extinct middle class sure as hell can't afford to buy a EV.Biden has promised to install 500K 'highway' charging stations. Where is the electricity needed to quick charge your Tesla while you eat your twenty dollar Big Mac? From ancient 'leaking' power lines coming from hydro electric stations five hundred miles away?What kind of equipment is needed to drill geothermal holes???????? You know. The equipment is impossible to manufacture without using fossil fuels! The steel casings aren't made from bamboo!I think tidal power will always be rough to sustain especially with increased climate change. But we could do a lot more with geothermal if the govt really got behind it instead subsidizing oil, gas, and coal exploration. Iceland runs on it.
Fucking wise up!
Nothing is ever emission free the point is to have a power source that in the net produces more emission free power than it takes to make the equipment.
Right now a car will pollute the air significantly more than the process to make the car does.
What about the other Tesla owners lined up behind you waiting for their charge-up?
That's a real problem with EVs. But I do think EVs have a place. Most people drive less than 40 miles to work daily and less than that conducting daily business like shopping, going to the bank etc.
Personally this is where I think an EV is a good choice since it's the daily drive not the occasional long road trip that contribute to emissions and pollution
"Guess what honey? I just got a raise to $15 an hour!. Now we can afford to buy that 80K Tesla and have a 10K charging station installed! "
