Northeast Loses 40% Of House Seats As People Flee High-tax States

[Rikurzhen]

Democrats will, of course, deny their economic illiterate policies have anything to do with this, but we know better.

Critics blame rising taxes in states such as Massachusetts and Connecticut for limiting population growth in the Northeast to just 15 percent from 1983 to 2013, while the rest of the nation grew more than 41 percent.

The biggest impact comes in the loss of congressional representation.

Deep in a recent report, for example, the American Legislative Exchange Council tabulated how the drop in population relative to the rest of the nation cut the region’s power in Washington. While the states from Pennsylvania to Maine had 141 House members in 1950, they are down to 85 today, a drop of some 40 percent.

California and Texas combined have more House representatives..

“This result is one of the most dramatic demographic shifts in American history. This migration is shifting the power center of America right before our very eyes. The movement isn’t random or even about weather or resources. Economic freedom is the magnet and states ignore this force at their own peril,” said the report.

Northeast loses 40 of House seats as people flee high-tax states WashingtonExaminer.com

Unfortunately those moving to red states bring their big government, high tax liberal ideas with them.
There are tons of NE transplants and half backs here in NC.....
Every fourth one of them bitches and moans about the food, the restaurants, the schools. They complain about the limited government services which are necessities such as water, sewer, trash pickup, street lights and thats about it. What more do the citizens need.
I had a discussion with former fellow resident of NJ. He said "you guys don't pay enough taxes here. We need government to do more.".
So I asked him why he moved here. He said because it was too expensive and the winters were miserable.
I asked him a question that left him speechless looking for a comeback. That was what was expensive. He was about to say "taxes" and stopped himself.
He asked how many years I had been here. When I responded ( over 20) he had nothing else to say.
I parted with "look, I-95 has northbound lanes. If you don't like it here, you are free to use them".
The point is while on paper it may look good that the bluie states are losing representation in DC but those people are going somewhere.
It's just a matter of time before some reliable red states start becoming purple. Or even blue.
Look at WA and OR...These used to be solid GOP states. Since those states were over run by Caucasian California liberals, they have gone solid blue.

its a common disconnect. They want all the services but don't realize that they have to be paid for, and there are not enough "richer than me" people to cover the bills.

Check out this Austin ding-bat:

“I’m at the breaking point,” said Gretchen Gardner, an Austin artist who bought a 1930s bungalow in the Bouldin neighborhood just south of downtown in 1991 and has watched her property tax bill soar to $8,500 this year.

“It’s not because I don’t like paying taxes,” said Gardner, who attended both meetings. “I have voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better. But now I can’t afford to live here anymore. I’ll protest my appraisal notice, but that’s not enough. Someone needs to step in and address the big picture.”
​

Even as the words pour out of her her brain can't connect her actions with the expected consequences and "someone" needs to fix the problem, but she's the problem.

 

[Rikurzhen]

Overly simplistic. The NE is highly congested in its developed areas. You want a really really good public school and work in NYC .... the commute's killer.

Whats with the "really good public school" crack? NYC is famous for it's multiculturalism and everyone knows that multiculturalism is enriching. Why do you suggest people flee from multiculturalism in order to find good public schools. What makes schools good?

 

[The Rabbi]

Democrats will, of course, deny their economic illiterate policies have anything to do with this, but we know better.

Critics blame rising taxes in states such as Massachusetts and Connecticut for limiting population growth in the Northeast to just 15 percent from 1983 to 2013, while the rest of the nation grew more than 41 percent.

The biggest impact comes in the loss of congressional representation.

Deep in a recent report, for example, the American Legislative Exchange Council tabulated how the drop in population relative to the rest of the nation cut the region’s power in Washington. While the states from Pennsylvania to Maine had 141 House members in 1950, they are down to 85 today, a drop of some 40 percent.

California and Texas combined have more House representatives..

“This result is one of the most dramatic demographic shifts in American history. This migration is shifting the power center of America right before our very eyes. The movement isn’t random or even about weather or resources. Economic freedom is the magnet and states ignore this force at their own peril,” said the report.

Northeast loses 40 of House seats as people flee high-tax states WashingtonExaminer.com

Unfortunately those moving to red states bring their big government, high tax liberal ideas with them.
There are tons of NE transplants and half backs here in NC.....
Every fourth one of them bitches and moans about the food, the restaurants, the schools. They complain about the limited government services which are necessities such as water, sewer, trash pickup, street lights and thats about it. What more do the citizens need.
I had a discussion with former fellow resident of NJ. He said "you guys don't pay enough taxes here. We need government to do more.".
So I asked him why he moved here. He said because it was too expensive and the winters were miserable.
I asked him a question that left him speechless looking for a comeback. That was what was expensive. He was about to say "taxes" and stopped himself.
He asked how many years I had been here. When I responded ( over 20) he had nothing else to say.
I parted with "look, I-95 has northbound lanes. If you don't like it here, you are free to use them".
The point is while on paper it may look good that the bluie states are losing representation in DC but those people are going somewhere.
It's just a matter of time before some reliable red states start becoming purple. Or even blue.
Look at WA and OR...These used to be solid GOP states. Since those states were over run by Caucasian California liberals, they have gone solid blue.

its a common disconnect. They want all the services but don't realize that they have to be paid for, and there are not enough "richer than me" people to cover the bills.

Check out this Austin ding-bat:

“I’m at the breaking point,” said Gretchen Gardner, an Austin artist who bought a 1930s bungalow in the Bouldin neighborhood just south of downtown in 1991 and has watched her property tax bill soar to $8,500 this year.

“It’s not because I don’t like paying taxes,” said Gardner, who attended both meetings. “I have voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better. But now I can’t afford to live here anymore. I’ll protest my appraisal notice, but that’s not enough. Someone needs to step in and address the big picture.”
​

Even as the words pour out of her her brain can't connect her actions with the expected consequences and "someone" needs to fix the problem, but she's the problem.

But someone else is supposed to pay for that shit. She's just showing how enlightened and concerned she is by voting for all those quality of life improvements. To do otherwise would be mean and racist and shit.
Idiots. Total idiots.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Oh OK

Bush's Fault

Gots ta be

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The States should fund the Federal government in proportion to their electoral college votes

Good luck trying to amend the US Constitution with that 'nugget' of wisdom

Section. 8.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

You appear to be a bit confused as to the meaning of the words you've quoted and posted

 

[Rikurzhen]

Democrats will, of course, deny their economic illiterate policies have anything to do with this, but we know better.

Critics blame rising taxes in states such as Massachusetts and Connecticut for limiting population growth in the Northeast to just 15 percent from 1983 to 2013, while the rest of the nation grew more than 41 percent.

The biggest impact comes in the loss of congressional representation.

Deep in a recent report, for example, the American Legislative Exchange Council tabulated how the drop in population relative to the rest of the nation cut the region’s power in Washington. While the states from Pennsylvania to Maine had 141 House members in 1950, they are down to 85 today, a drop of some 40 percent.

California and Texas combined have more House representatives..

“This result is one of the most dramatic demographic shifts in American history. This migration is shifting the power center of America right before our very eyes. The movement isn’t random or even about weather or resources. Economic freedom is the magnet and states ignore this force at their own peril,” said the report.

Northeast loses 40 of House seats as people flee high-tax states WashingtonExaminer.com

Unfortunately those moving to red states bring their big government, high tax liberal ideas with them.
There are tons of NE transplants and half backs here in NC.....
Every fourth one of them bitches and moans about the food, the restaurants, the schools. They complain about the limited government services which are necessities such as water, sewer, trash pickup, street lights and thats about it. What more do the citizens need.
I had a discussion with former fellow resident of NJ. He said "you guys don't pay enough taxes here. We need government to do more.".
So I asked him why he moved here. He said because it was too expensive and the winters were miserable.
I asked him a question that left him speechless looking for a comeback. That was what was expensive. He was about to say "taxes" and stopped himself.
He asked how many years I had been here. When I responded ( over 20) he had nothing else to say.
I parted with "look, I-95 has northbound lanes. If you don't like it here, you are free to use them".
The point is while on paper it may look good that the bluie states are losing representation in DC but those people are going somewhere.
It's just a matter of time before some reliable red states start becoming purple. Or even blue.
Look at WA and OR...These used to be solid GOP states. Since those states were over run by Caucasian California liberals, they have gone solid blue.

its a common disconnect. They want all the services but don't realize that they have to be paid for, and there are not enough "richer than me" people to cover the bills.

Check out this Austin ding-bat:

“I’m at the breaking point,” said Gretchen Gardner, an Austin artist who bought a 1930s bungalow in the Bouldin neighborhood just south of downtown in 1991 and has watched her property tax bill soar to $8,500 this year.

“It’s not because I don’t like paying taxes,” said Gardner, who attended both meetings. “I have voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better. But now I can’t afford to live here anymore. I’ll protest my appraisal notice, but that’s not enough. Someone needs to step in and address the big picture.”
​

Even as the words pour out of her her brain can't connect her actions with the expected consequences and "someone" needs to fix the problem, but she's the problem.

But someone else is supposed to pay for that shit. She's just showing how enlightened and concerned she is by voting for all those quality of life improvements. To do otherwise would be mean and racist and shit.
Idiots. Total idiots.

Her vote cancels your vote. That's the heart of the injustice. Letting idiots and liberals (sorry for repeating myself) vote is a crime against justice.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

There's lots of reasons for this exodus, but to deny that high taxes is one of them is pretty retarded.

One of them.

Historically higher taxes do not equate what reactionary conservatives say they do.

 

[Nyvin]

Is there supposed to be some kind of relevance to this discussion in that post? If so, it sure seems tangential at best.
Yeah, migration from farm belt states to urban areas was a really big thing. Fifty years ago. Last 30 years, not so much.

A lot of the states list continued to loss house seats all the way into the 2000s....

It pretty much 100% refutes what the OP posted

 

[The Rabbi]

Is there supposed to be some kind of relevance to this discussion in that post? If so, it sure seems tangential at best.
Yeah, migration from farm belt states to urban areas was a really big thing. Fifty years ago. Last 30 years, not so much.

A lot of the states list continued to loss house seats all the way into the 2000s....

It pretty much 100% refutes what the OP posted

It actually doesnt refute the OP, which focused on high tax states losing representation, in the least.
Let me guess, you never took a class in logic, right?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Is there supposed to be some kind of relevance to this discussion in that post? If so, it sure seems tangential at best.
Yeah, migration from farm belt states to urban areas was a really big thing. Fifty years ago. Last 30 years, not so much.

A lot of the states list continued to loss house seats all the way into the 2000s....

It pretty much 100% refutes what the OP posted

It actually doesnt refute the OP, which focused on high tax states losing representation, in the least.
Let me guess, you never took a class in logic, right?

Why do the wingnuts amongst us always think they have a grasp of logic?

 

[Nyvin]

Is there supposed to be some kind of relevance to this discussion in that post? If so, it sure seems tangential at best.
Yeah, migration from farm belt states to urban areas was a really big thing. Fifty years ago. Last 30 years, not so much.

A lot of the states list continued to loss house seats all the way into the 2000s....

It pretty much 100% refutes what the OP posted

It actually doesnt refute the OP, which focused on high tax states losing representation, in the least.
Let me guess, you never took a class in logic, right?

*facepalm*

 

[The Rabbi]

Is there supposed to be some kind of relevance to this discussion in that post? If so, it sure seems tangential at best.
Yeah, migration from farm belt states to urban areas was a really big thing. Fifty years ago. Last 30 years, not so much.

A lot of the states list continued to loss house seats all the way into the 2000s....

It pretty much 100% refutes what the OP posted

It actually doesnt refute the OP, which focused on high tax states losing representation, in the least.
Let me guess, you never took a class in logic, right?

*facepalm*

No, your posts are more like this:

 

[saveliberty]

Best Worst States to be a Taxpayer WalletHub

Typical liberal research, 51 states...

no kidding ... there are actually 52 states.. everybody forgets:
Guam
Puerto Rico.

I bet idiot RW's think there's only 50 .... didn't YOU ?

LMFAO!

I'm comfortable going with 50 states. We have more than two territories...try fourteen.

 

[AceRothstein]

Democrats will, of course, deny their economic illiterate policies have anything to do with this, but we know better.

Critics blame rising taxes in states such as Massachusetts and Connecticut for limiting population growth in the Northeast to just 15 percent from 1983 to 2013, while the rest of the nation grew more than 41 percent.

The biggest impact comes in the loss of congressional representation.

Deep in a recent report, for example, the American Legislative Exchange Council tabulated how the drop in population relative to the rest of the nation cut the region’s power in Washington. While the states from Pennsylvania to Maine had 141 House members in 1950, they are down to 85 today, a drop of some 40 percent.

California and Texas combined have more House representatives..

“This result is one of the most dramatic demographic shifts in American history. This migration is shifting the power center of America right before our very eyes. The movement isn’t random or even about weather or resources. Economic freedom is the magnet and states ignore this force at their own peril,” said the report.

Northeast loses 40 of House seats as people flee high-tax states WashingtonExaminer.com

Unfortunately those moving to red states bring their big government, high tax liberal ideas with them.
There are tons of NE transplants and half backs here in NC.....
Every fourth one of them bitches and moans about the food, the restaurants, the schools. They complain about the limited government services which are necessities such as water, sewer, trash pickup, street lights and thats about it. What more do the citizens need.
I had a discussion with former fellow resident of NJ. He said "you guys don't pay enough taxes here. We need government to do more.".
So I asked him why he moved here. He said because it was too expensive and the winters were miserable.
I asked him a question that left him speechless looking for a comeback. That was what was expensive. He was about to say "taxes" and stopped himself.
He asked how many years I had been here. When I responded ( over 20) he had nothing else to say.
I parted with "look, I-95 has northbound lanes. If you don't like it here, you are free to use them".
The point is while on paper it may look good that the bluie states are losing representation in DC but those people are going somewhere.
It's just a matter of time before some reliable red states start becoming purple. Or even blue.
Look at WA and OR...These used to be solid GOP states. Since those states were over run by Caucasian California liberals, they have gone solid blue.

its a common disconnect. They want all the services but don't realize that they have to be paid for, and there are not enough "richer than me" people to cover the bills.

Check out this Austin ding-bat:

“I’m at the breaking point,” said Gretchen Gardner, an Austin artist who bought a 1930s bungalow in the Bouldin neighborhood just south of downtown in 1991 and has watched her property tax bill soar to $8,500 this year.

“It’s not because I don’t like paying taxes,” said Gardner, who attended both meetings. “I have voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better. But now I can’t afford to live here anymore. I’ll protest my appraisal notice, but that’s not enough. Someone needs to step in and address the big picture.”
​

Even as the words pour out of her her brain can't connect her actions with the expected consequences and "someone" needs to fix the problem, but she's the problem.

Did her taxes go up because the tax rate went up or because her house is worth 5 times what she paid for it over 20 years ago?

My parents bought their house in Chicago for $30k in 1980 and now it is worth over $400k, their taxes have increased accordingly.

 

[Rikurzhen]

Democrats will, of course, deny their economic illiterate policies have anything to do with this, but we know better.

Critics blame rising taxes in states such as Massachusetts and Connecticut for limiting population growth in the Northeast to just 15 percent from 1983 to 2013, while the rest of the nation grew more than 41 percent.

The biggest impact comes in the loss of congressional representation.

Deep in a recent report, for example, the American Legislative Exchange Council tabulated how the drop in population relative to the rest of the nation cut the region’s power in Washington. While the states from Pennsylvania to Maine had 141 House members in 1950, they are down to 85 today, a drop of some 40 percent.

California and Texas combined have more House representatives..

“This result is one of the most dramatic demographic shifts in American history. This migration is shifting the power center of America right before our very eyes. The movement isn’t random or even about weather or resources. Economic freedom is the magnet and states ignore this force at their own peril,” said the report.

Northeast loses 40 of House seats as people flee high-tax states WashingtonExaminer.com

Unfortunately those moving to red states bring their big government, high tax liberal ideas with them.
There are tons of NE transplants and half backs here in NC.....
Every fourth one of them bitches and moans about the food, the restaurants, the schools. They complain about the limited government services which are necessities such as water, sewer, trash pickup, street lights and thats about it. What more do the citizens need.
I had a discussion with former fellow resident of NJ. He said "you guys don't pay enough taxes here. We need government to do more.".
So I asked him why he moved here. He said because it was too expensive and the winters were miserable.
I asked him a question that left him speechless looking for a comeback. That was what was expensive. He was about to say "taxes" and stopped himself.
He asked how many years I had been here. When I responded ( over 20) he had nothing else to say.
I parted with "look, I-95 has northbound lanes. If you don't like it here, you are free to use them".
The point is while on paper it may look good that the bluie states are losing representation in DC but those people are going somewhere.
It's just a matter of time before some reliable red states start becoming purple. Or even blue.
Look at WA and OR...These used to be solid GOP states. Since those states were over run by Caucasian California liberals, they have gone solid blue.

its a common disconnect. They want all the services but don't realize that they have to be paid for, and there are not enough "richer than me" people to cover the bills.

Check out this Austin ding-bat:

“I’m at the breaking point,” said Gretchen Gardner, an Austin artist who bought a 1930s bungalow in the Bouldin neighborhood just south of downtown in 1991 and has watched her property tax bill soar to $8,500 this year.

“It’s not because I don’t like paying taxes,” said Gardner, who attended both meetings. “I have voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better. But now I can’t afford to live here anymore. I’ll protest my appraisal notice, but that’s not enough. Someone needs to step in and address the big picture.”
​

Even as the words pour out of her her brain can't connect her actions with the expected consequences and "someone" needs to fix the problem, but she's the problem.

Did her taxes go up because the tax rate went up or because her house is worth 5 times what she paid for it over 20 years ago?

My parents bought their house in Chicago for $30k in 1980 and now it is worth over $400k, their taxes have increased accordingly.

Think Poindexter, think . . . she voted for "voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better." Do you think that there could be some relation between voting for all manner of increased city spending and one's property taxes increasing?

 

[The Rabbi]

Democrats will, of course, deny their economic illiterate policies have anything to do with this, but we know better.

Unfortunately those moving to red states bring their big government, high tax liberal ideas with them.
There are tons of NE transplants and half backs here in NC.....
Every fourth one of them bitches and moans about the food, the restaurants, the schools. They complain about the limited government services which are necessities such as water, sewer, trash pickup, street lights and thats about it. What more do the citizens need.
I had a discussion with former fellow resident of NJ. He said "you guys don't pay enough taxes here. We need government to do more.".
So I asked him why he moved here. He said because it was too expensive and the winters were miserable.
I asked him a question that left him speechless looking for a comeback. That was what was expensive. He was about to say "taxes" and stopped himself.
He asked how many years I had been here. When I responded ( over 20) he had nothing else to say.
I parted with "look, I-95 has northbound lanes. If you don't like it here, you are free to use them".
The point is while on paper it may look good that the bluie states are losing representation in DC but those people are going somewhere.
It's just a matter of time before some reliable red states start becoming purple. Or even blue.
Look at WA and OR...These used to be solid GOP states. Since those states were over run by Caucasian California liberals, they have gone solid blue.

its a common disconnect. They want all the services but don't realize that they have to be paid for, and there are not enough "richer than me" people to cover the bills.

Check out this Austin ding-bat:

“I’m at the breaking point,” said Gretchen Gardner, an Austin artist who bought a 1930s bungalow in the Bouldin neighborhood just south of downtown in 1991 and has watched her property tax bill soar to $8,500 this year.

“It’s not because I don’t like paying taxes,” said Gardner, who attended both meetings. “I have voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better. But now I can’t afford to live here anymore. I’ll protest my appraisal notice, but that’s not enough. Someone needs to step in and address the big picture.”
​

Even as the words pour out of her her brain can't connect her actions with the expected consequences and "someone" needs to fix the problem, but she's the problem.

Did her taxes go up because the tax rate went up or because her house is worth 5 times what she paid for it over 20 years ago?

My parents bought their house in Chicago for $30k in 1980 and now it is worth over $400k, their taxes have increased accordingly.

Think Poindexter, think . . . she voted for "voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better." Do you think that there could be some relation between voting for all manner of increased city spending and one's property taxes increasing?

Libs cant think beyond Stage One. They voted for it but had no idea they would be the ones paying for it.

 

[whitehall]

The bogus "Start Up NY" ad campaign that promised 10 years tax exempt operation for businesses that expand or establish themselves in NY state was an admission that NY state is known for high taxes. Of course the "Start Up NY" plan isn't really tax exempt. As a matter of fact it is so complicated with tying new business to universities that any new business with decent legal advisers would run from Cuomo's crazy plan and relocate to freaking Utah.

 

[AceRothstein]

Democrats will, of course, deny their economic illiterate policies have anything to do with this, but we know better.

Unfortunately those moving to red states bring their big government, high tax liberal ideas with them.
There are tons of NE transplants and half backs here in NC.....
Every fourth one of them bitches and moans about the food, the restaurants, the schools. They complain about the limited government services which are necessities such as water, sewer, trash pickup, street lights and thats about it. What more do the citizens need.
I had a discussion with former fellow resident of NJ. He said "you guys don't pay enough taxes here. We need government to do more.".
So I asked him why he moved here. He said because it was too expensive and the winters were miserable.
I asked him a question that left him speechless looking for a comeback. That was what was expensive. He was about to say "taxes" and stopped himself.
He asked how many years I had been here. When I responded ( over 20) he had nothing else to say.
I parted with "look, I-95 has northbound lanes. If you don't like it here, you are free to use them".
The point is while on paper it may look good that the bluie states are losing representation in DC but those people are going somewhere.
It's just a matter of time before some reliable red states start becoming purple. Or even blue.
Look at WA and OR...These used to be solid GOP states. Since those states were over run by Caucasian California liberals, they have gone solid blue.

its a common disconnect. They want all the services but don't realize that they have to be paid for, and there are not enough "richer than me" people to cover the bills.

Check out this Austin ding-bat:

“I’m at the breaking point,” said Gretchen Gardner, an Austin artist who bought a 1930s bungalow in the Bouldin neighborhood just south of downtown in 1991 and has watched her property tax bill soar to $8,500 this year.

“It’s not because I don’t like paying taxes,” said Gardner, who attended both meetings. “I have voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better. But now I can’t afford to live here anymore. I’ll protest my appraisal notice, but that’s not enough. Someone needs to step in and address the big picture.”
​

Even as the words pour out of her her brain can't connect her actions with the expected consequences and "someone" needs to fix the problem, but she's the problem.

Did her taxes go up because the tax rate went up or because her house is worth 5 times what she paid for it over 20 years ago?

My parents bought their house in Chicago for $30k in 1980 and now it is worth over $400k, their taxes have increased accordingly.

Think Poindexter, think . . . she voted for "voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better." Do you think that there could be some relation between voting for all manner of increased city spending and one's property taxes increasing?

Some relation? Sure. Blaming the increase solely on a raise in the tax rate? Silliness. Especially in a city that has seen property values increase 184% since 1980 and 78% in the last 10 years.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Oklahoma is one of those vaunted "economic freedom" states...they've gone from 9 districts in 1930 to 5 today...that's a loss of 44%.

West Virginia went from 6 in 1950 to 3 today, a loss of 50%.

Nebraska went from 5 in 1940 to 3 today, loss of 40%.

South Dakota went from 2 in 1950 to 1 today, loss of 50%.

Montana went from 2 in 1950 to 1 today, loss of 50%

Alabama had 9 districts in 1950, has 7 today.

Kansas went from 7 in 1930 to 4 today, loss of 42%

Iowa is usually thought of as an economic freedom state...it went from 9 districts in 1930 to 4 today...a loss of 55%!!!

Indiana is a reliably GOP state, it saw a decline from 11 districts in 1950 to 9 today.

Arkansas went from 7 in 1940 to 4 today, loss of 42%

Mississippi went from 7 in 1940 to 4 today, loss of 42%

Wyoming has had 1 district since the state's creation in the 1880's.


I guess the real message here is...don't be a state that doesn't get a good amount of Latino immigration!

Most of that is due to a national shift of us being an agrarian economy to an industrial one.

 

[Rikurzhen]

Unfortunately those moving to red states bring their big government, high tax liberal ideas with them.
There are tons of NE transplants and half backs here in NC.....
Every fourth one of them bitches and moans about the food, the restaurants, the schools. They complain about the limited government services which are necessities such as water, sewer, trash pickup, street lights and thats about it. What more do the citizens need.
I had a discussion with former fellow resident of NJ. He said "you guys don't pay enough taxes here. We need government to do more.".
So I asked him why he moved here. He said because it was too expensive and the winters were miserable.
I asked him a question that left him speechless looking for a comeback. That was what was expensive. He was about to say "taxes" and stopped himself.
He asked how many years I had been here. When I responded ( over 20) he had nothing else to say.
I parted with "look, I-95 has northbound lanes. If you don't like it here, you are free to use them".
The point is while on paper it may look good that the bluie states are losing representation in DC but those people are going somewhere.
It's just a matter of time before some reliable red states start becoming purple. Or even blue.
Look at WA and OR...These used to be solid GOP states. Since those states were over run by Caucasian California liberals, they have gone solid blue.

its a common disconnect. They want all the services but don't realize that they have to be paid for, and there are not enough "richer than me" people to cover the bills.

Check out this Austin ding-bat:

“I’m at the breaking point,” said Gretchen Gardner, an Austin artist who bought a 1930s bungalow in the Bouldin neighborhood just south of downtown in 1991 and has watched her property tax bill soar to $8,500 this year.

“It’s not because I don’t like paying taxes,” said Gardner, who attended both meetings. “I have voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better. But now I can’t afford to live here anymore. I’ll protest my appraisal notice, but that’s not enough. Someone needs to step in and address the big picture.”
​

Even as the words pour out of her her brain can't connect her actions with the expected consequences and "someone" needs to fix the problem, but she's the problem.

Did her taxes go up because the tax rate went up or because her house is worth 5 times what she paid for it over 20 years ago?

My parents bought their house in Chicago for $30k in 1980 and now it is worth over $400k, their taxes have increased accordingly.

Think Poindexter, think . . . she voted for "voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better." Do you think that there could be some relation between voting for all manner of increased city spending and one's property taxes increasing?

Some relation? Sure. Blaming the increase solely on a raise in the tax rate? Silliness. Especially in a city that has seen property values increase 184% since 1980 and 78% in the last 10 years.

Again, think it through. Property value is a function of market pricing. Limited supply and high demand result in compounded annual growth in the value of the property. Property taxes reflect the costs of running the city, they're totally disconnected from supply and demand for property.

As the value of the property increases, and assuming the costs of supplying services remains constant, the result would be a lowering of the mill rate, and a property tax bill remaining constant. Sure we have to account for inflation, but that's noise in the system compared to the strong signal of increased services being expensive to provide.

Here's how the process works. An assessment agency values your property and passes this information to city government. The city constructs a budget for the services it provides. It divides the total value of property by the value of city budget and comes up with the mill rate or tax rate. Next it assigns that mill rate to each property.

If your parents' city provided exactly the same level of service today that it did in 1980, then your parents taxes would be lower even though the value of their property increased. Now if their city awarded generous pensions to employees, gave healthy above-inflation raises, hired more staff, hired diversity officers and female outreach officers, built community recreation centers, bought a lot of park land, etc then the cost of the city budget will have increased. This is what drives property taxes higher, not increased property values.