No connection to al Qaeda? Fascinating

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    http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/03/13/alqaeda.saddam/?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/11/AR2008031102799.html

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88226425



    Next you're going to tell me there were no Weapons of Mass Destruction!
     
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    Are we going to do this one again? The only people that believed there was anything more than a tenuous connection between Hussein and AQ are the ones uneducated on the topic of the Middle East and its factions.
     
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    And Dick Cheney. :rolleyes:

    oh wait... you said "believed"....

    never mind.
     
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    Uneducated with the highest degree. :rofl:
     
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    And yet this was a major initiative by the Bush whitewash in revving up for the war.

    Now they are saying that althought there was no Al Quaeda in Iraq before the war, they will be there for a long long time now.

    Somehow it seems counterintuitive if the war in Iraq is the real battleground for the war on terrorism.

    If it's old news and doesn't need to be discussed, then why do so many on the right bring up Clinton? Isn't he also in the past. I guess it's what we want to acknowledge or not.
     
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    Saddam supported Hezbollah and Hamas financially. So there WAS a link to Saddam and terrorism. That he wasn't linked specifically to AQ is irrelevant to me.

    Clinton was the last Democrat President. When making comparisons, it's him or nobody. Unless you'd prefer using Jimbob Carter for comparison.

    It's rather intellectually dishonest to bring up what Bush's grandaddy did, and try and make something out of nothing aobut Bush's military service; yet, say that someone less removed by years than either of those is off limits because he isn't President anymore.

    And if a Democrat wins the Presidency, I expect to not hear another word about Bush from the day he leaves office on.

    But we both KNOW that's not going to happen. Y'all still dredge up Nixon and Reagan.
     
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    So .... here we go again....
    Throughout the Clinton Administration what were these silly Dims talkin about....didn't these folks TESTIFY for the 9/11 Commission?
    And what were they telling the 9/11 Commission?

    And you STILL asked the stupid question...Where did the idea of an Iraqi/ AQ connection come from...? It came from the Clinton Administration, thats where, thats what testimony to the 9/11 Commission revealed....


    PAGE 128 9/11 report
    Time....11/1998
    ....this passage led Clark, who for years had read intell reports on Iraqi-Sudanese
    cooperation on chemical weapons, to specualte to Berger that a large Iraqi presence at chem
    facilities in Khartoum was "probably a direct result of the Iraq-Al Qida
    agreement."
    Clark added that VX precursor traces found near al Shifa were the
    "exact formula" used by Iraq."

    PAGE 61 9/11 Report
    With the Sudanese regime acting as intermediary, Ben Ladin himself
    met with a senior Iraqi intelligence officer in Khartoum in late 1994 or early 1995

    Ben Ladin is said to have asked for space to establish training camps, as well as assistance
    assistance in procuring weapons, but there in no evidence that Iraq responded to this
    request...As described below, the ensuring years saw additional efforts to
    establish connections....

    PAGE 66 9/11 Report
    There is also evidence that around this time Bin Ladin sent out a number of feelers to the Iraqi
    regime, offering some cooperation. None are reported to received a response.
    In mid 1998 the situation reversed; it was Iraq that reportedly took the initiative. In
    March 1998, after Bin Ladin's public fatwa against the United States two al Qaeda members reportedly went to Iraq to meet with Iraqi intelligence. In July, an Iraqi delegation traveled to Afghanistan to meet first with the Taliban and then with Ben Ladin. Sources reported that one, or perhaps both, of these meetings was apparently arranged through Bin Ladin's Egyptian
    deputy, Zawahiri, who had ties of his own the the Iraqis.

    Similar meetings between Iraqi officials and Bin Ladin or his aides may have
    occured in 1999 during a period of some reported strains with the
    Taliban. According to the reporting, Iraqi officials offered Bin Ladin a safe
    haven in Iraq.
    Bin Ladin declined, etc......
     
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    Wait a minute Gunny.

    1. AQ committed the atrocities on 9/11
    2. Cheney rushes in and tells Bush that Saddam was connected to AQ so Iraq can be invaded.
    3. Iraq is invaded.

    Which bit did I get wrong?
     
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    its the little things jilliian..like this..that allow me to overlook the rest
     

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