"No collusion"??? "No obstruction"???REALLY?

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Couldn't even get these right wing morons on here to read THREE little sentences (and comprehend what the hell they read....)..........

THIS is why Trump LOVES the poorly educated........lol

It might because you have posted about your hatred for Trump since the day he won the election.

You are still under the delusion that Russia stole the election when it was James Comey that finally sunk Hillary Clinton.

So let be truthful the reason why so many troll you is because you are still stuck in 2016 and believe Hillary should have won...

 

[kyzr]

After re-reading the OP the take-aways are:

1. From your OP: "If one carefully reviews what Mueller wrote, the more appropriate conclusion is that Trump may be "innocent" of conspiracy.....but not necessarily exonerated from "collusion."
COLLUSION IS NOT A CRIME, THERE IS NO SUCH THING, ITS CONSPIRACY OR NOTHING, DUH.

2. From your OP: "If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of Justice we would so state.”
PROSECUTORS DO NOT "EXONERATE", THEY CHARGE OR THEY DO NOT CHARGE. MUELLER DID NOT CHARGE.

3. As AG Barr clearly stated in his summary: NO COLLUSION, NO OBSTRUCTION, quoting McConnell: "case closed."

 

[Staidhup]

Funny how some people on this site have access to the un-redacted Mueller report and congress does not? So how is it they spend all this time on this site posting all day. Who pays their bills, who pays the mortgage on their home? Apparently there must be a heck of a lot of unemployed constitutional law attorneys out of work.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

“If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of Justice we would so state.”

*AHEM*

IT'S NOT A PROSECUTOR'S JOB TO ASSEMBLE EVIDENCE THAT THE SUBJECT DIDN'T DO SOMETHING!

THEIR JOB IS TO GATHER AND PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THE SUBJECT DID DO SOMETHING!

NOR IS THERE ANY BURDEN ON THE ACCUSED TO PROVE THAT THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!

YOU ARE A GOT-DAMNED IGNORANT FUCKING CLOWN!

IT'S NOT A PROSECUTOR'S JOB TO ASSEMBLE EVIDENCE THAT THE SUBJECT DIDN'T DO SOMETHING!

THEIR JOB IS TO GATHER AND PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THE SUBJECT DID DO SOMETHING!

Exactly. That's why the report is over 400 pages, dope.

The "report" is over 400 pages because the Mule has nothing, and needs to muddy the waters for clapping and barking seals like you, fuckwit.

Sure, that makes total sense.

Dope.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Isn't Mueller governed by the same laws Barr is?

NO.......Mueller will soon be a private citizen asked to testify, assert and explain his investigation.......Actually, I DO hope that Trump tried to stifle his testimony, so that we can "conclude" that he is scared shitless of the truth.

Doesn't matter... Executive privilege has been invoked. He wont be answering questions for anyone..

Doesn't matter... Executive privilege has been invoked. He wont be answering questions for anyone..

LOL...

Claiming executive privilege over a report that is already public is as useless as it is dumb.

 

[Auld Phart]

Isn't Mueller governed by the same laws Barr is?

NO.......Mueller will soon be a private citizen asked to testify, assert and explain his investigation.......Actually, I DO hope that Trump tried to stifle his testimony, so that we can "conclude" that he is scared shitless of the truth.

Doesn't matter... Executive privilege has been invoked. He wont be answering questions for anyone..

Doesn't matter... Executive privilege has been invoked. He wont be answering questions for anyone..

LOL...

Claiming executive privilege over a report that is already public is as useless as it is dumb.

Claiming executive privilege over a report that is already public

The public has access to the unredacted report?

Since when?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

For the last several weeks the problem here...and throughout our nation....has been the refusal by many Trump acolytes to actually READ Mueller's report and....instead.....have relied of Barr's biased interpretation to "absolve" the guy who hired him to be hius stooge......

Since reading the report has proven a difficult task for most Trump followers, I offer just a few lines from Mueller that would.....at least to objective and sane voters......offer some measure of hesitation before reverting to the mindless support of someone who does not deserve such support....

For example, regarding "collusion," Mueller.explicitly states that "we applied the framework of conspiracy law not the concept of ‘collusion.’".

If one carefully reviews what Mueller wrote, the more appropriate conclusion is that Trump may be "innocent" of conspiracy.....but not necessarily exonerated from "collusion."

Further, Mueller makes it CLEAR as to which entity.....either the DOJ or Congress..... should utilize his investigation's findings, especially on the issue of obstruction, Mueller offers this:

"We concluded that Congress has authority to prohibit a President's corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice."

Finally, there is this sentence in the report that is of major importance (something that Barr conveniently leaves out in his little summary):

“If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of Justice we would so state.”

Obstruction is in the eye of the beholder.

The difference between reading the Mueller report or not reading it...... is the difference between eating a 55-gallon drum of bullshit or not eating it.

I'll tell you what if you read the inspector general's report when it comes out I'll raise you one and read them both.

Jo

So....you've not read the report because you've determined it's just all bullshit anyway?

Brilliant!

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Isn't Mueller governed by the same laws Barr is?

NO.......Mueller will soon be a private citizen asked to testify, assert and explain his investigation.......Actually, I DO hope that Trump tried to stifle his testimony, so that we can "conclude" that he is scared shitless of the truth.

Doesn't matter... Executive privilege has been invoked. He wont be answering questions for anyone..

Doesn't matter... Executive privilege has been invoked. He wont be answering questions for anyone..

LOL...

Claiming executive privilege over a report that is already public is as useless as it is dumb.

Claiming executive privilege over a report that is already public

The public has access to the unredacted report?

Since when?

Well, obviously Mueller would not be testifying publicly to the redacted portions. No?

 

[Auld Phart]

Isn't Mueller governed by the same laws Barr is?

NO.......Mueller will soon be a private citizen asked to testify, assert and explain his investigation.......Actually, I DO hope that Trump tried to stifle his testimony, so that we can "conclude" that he is scared shitless of the truth.

Doesn't matter... Executive privilege has been invoked. He wont be answering questions for anyone..

Doesn't matter... Executive privilege has been invoked. He wont be answering questions for anyone..

LOL...

Claiming executive privilege over a report that is already public is as useless as it is dumb.

Claiming executive privilege over a report that is already public

The public has access to the unredacted report?

Since when?

Well, obviously Mueller would not be testifying publicly to the redacted portions. No?

hopefully not.


seems that would be illegal.

So it appears the Executive Privilege will cover those parts as yet unseen.

No?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

NO.......Mueller will soon be a private citizen asked to testify, assert and explain his investigation.......Actually, I DO hope that Trump tried to stifle his testimony, so that we can "conclude" that he is scared shitless of the truth.

Doesn't matter... Executive privilege has been invoked. He wont be answering questions for anyone..

Doesn't matter... Executive privilege has been invoked. He wont be answering questions for anyone..

LOL...

Claiming executive privilege over a report that is already public is as useless as it is dumb.

Claiming executive privilege over a report that is already public

The public has access to the unredacted report?

Since when?

Well, obviously Mueller would not be testifying publicly to the redacted portions. No?

hopefully not.


seems that would be illegal.

So it appears the Executive Privilege will cover those parts as yet unseen.

No?

Then like I said. It's useless and dumb.

 

[Auld Phart]

Doesn't matter... Executive privilege has been invoked. He wont be answering questions for anyone..

Doesn't matter... Executive privilege has been invoked. He wont be answering questions for anyone..

LOL...

Claiming executive privilege over a report that is already public is as useless as it is dumb.

Claiming executive privilege over a report that is already public

The public has access to the unredacted report?

Since when?

Well, obviously Mueller would not be testifying publicly to the redacted portions. No?

hopefully not.


seems that would be illegal.

So it appears the Executive Privilege will cover those parts as yet unseen.

No?

Then like I said. It's useless and dumb.

 

[Cecilie1200]

For the last several weeks the problem here...and throughout our nation....has been the refusal by many Trump acolytes to actually READ Mueller's report and....instead.....have relied of Barr's biased interpretation to "absolve" the guy who hired him to be hius stooge......

Since reading the report has proven a difficult task for most Trump followers, I offer just a few lines from Mueller that would.....at least to objective and sane voters......offer some measure of hesitation before reverting to the mindless support of someone who does not deserve such support....

For example, regarding "collusion," Mueller.explicitly states that "we applied the framework of conspiracy law not the concept of ‘collusion.’".

If one carefully reviews what Mueller wrote, the more appropriate conclusion is that Trump may be "innocent" of conspiracy.....but not necessarily exonerated from "collusion."

Further, Mueller makes it CLEAR as to which entity.....either the DOJ or Congress..... should utilize his investigation's findings, especially on the issue of obstruction, Mueller offers this:

"We concluded that Congress has authority to prohibit a President's corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice."

Finally, there is this sentence in the report that is of major importance (something that Barr conveniently leaves out in his little summary):

“If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of Justice we would so state.”

For the last . . . well, forever, the problem here - and throughout our nation - has been the refusal of leftists to think and communicate clearly and honestly.

Mueller applied the framework of conspiracy law because "collusion" ISN'T A CRIME. The left has insisted on using the word "collusion" in place of the more correct "conspiracy" both because they're illiterate nitwits who don't know the English language very well, and because they're deliberately hoping to muddy the waters to where they can make anything an "Aha! You're guilty!" moment, whether it is or not.

So no, Trump isn't "exonerated of collusion", because of the simple fact that HE DOESN'T NEED TO BE.

Further, it is not and never has been Mueller's job to decide who has authority to do what, with his findings or with anything else. The responsibilities of all the entities involved - Special Counsel, Attorney General, and Congress - are already spelled out very clearly in the law. For him to take the time to state this, as though someone asked him and as though he has the ability to make this fact - and particularly in regards to a case where he didn't find sufficient evidence of a crime - is an unprofessional and unethical insertion of his own political agenda into the report.

Finally, Barr didn't "leave out" anything about the conclusions from his summary, conveniently or otherwise. You may not like that he didn't phrase it with enough insinuation for your tastes, but he made it quite clear what the report's conclusion - or lack thereof - was in that case. At bottom, all this sentence says - which you would know, if you spoke English even as well as my 4th grader - is "We can't say one way or the other, so we're punting on our job".

 

[Cecilie1200]

What would be the chances that Mueller when OPENLY testifies before Congress will be asked to elaborate on those citations in the O/P???

Sad days ahead for you my dear Trump acolytes.....LOL

What would be the chances that if he "elaborates" on those citations, it's STILL not going to be the "Well, actually, Trump is guilty as sin and should be locked up at once!" that you pathetically desperate twerps are praying for?

Nervous breakdown ahead for you, my not-remotely-dear TDS sufferer. "LOL"

 

[Correll]

For the last several weeks the problem here...and throughout our nation....has been the refusal by many Trump acolytes to actually READ Mueller's report and....instead.....have relied of Barr's biased interpretation to "absolve" the guy who hired him to be hius stooge......

Since reading the report has proven a difficult task for most Trump followers, I offer just a few lines from Mueller that would.....at least to objective and sane voters......offer some measure of hesitation before reverting to the mindless support of someone who does not deserve such support....

For example, regarding "collusion," Mueller.explicitly states that "we applied the framework of conspiracy law not the concept of ‘collusion.’".

If one carefully reviews what Mueller wrote, the more appropriate conclusion is that Trump may be "innocent" of conspiracy.....but not necessarily exonerated from "collusion."

Further, Mueller makes it CLEAR as to which entity.....either the DOJ or Congress..... should utilize his investigation's findings, especially on the issue of obstruction, Mueller offers this:

"We concluded that Congress has authority to prohibit a President's corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice."

Finally, there is this sentence in the report that is of major importance (something that Barr conveniently leaves out in his little summary):

“If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of Justice we would so state.”

What part of "no collusion" do you not understand?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Nat is going to tell us any day now Trump will be impeached, well just after Brush and Cheney and maybe even Obama are taken to the Hague for war crimes...

Any day now!

nat thinks a group of people who have a pathetic approval rating and some of the worst congress people in the history of this country can read that report and understand what it says and act fairly....

Well, in fairness, I think they're perfectly capable of reading it, and of understanding it. It's only the last part they stumble over.

 

[Justin Richardson]

 

[Cecilie1200]

The problem for all you right wingers is that you're devoid from reality.....You "think" that this forum represents all of American voters.....and since this forum is mostly filled with right wingers, you're dead wrong.

Let's see how it all plays out with Mueller's testimony watched by millions of independent voters who might have made a real bad blunder in voting for this charlatan in 2016.

Well, it can play out one of two ways. He can either say the same thing he said in the report, in which case you don't get what you want AND you're revealed as having wasted the nation's time and money by refusing to accept the report you demanded; OR he can contradict his report, in which case he'll end up investigated, because it will mean he either lied in his report, or he lied to Congress.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Isn't Mueller governed by the same laws Barr is?

NO.......Mueller will soon be a private citizen asked to testify, assert and explain his investigation.......Actually, I DO hope that Trump tried to stifle his testimony, so that we can "conclude" that he is scared shitless of the truth.

So you're saying that you've decided that the Mueller report is a baldfaced lie? On what basis? Because it didn't say what you wanted?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Isn't Mueller governed by the same laws Barr is?

NO.......Mueller will soon be a private citizen asked to testify, assert and explain his investigation.......Actually, I DO hope that Trump tried to stifle his testimony, so that we can "conclude" that he is scared shitless of the truth.

Doesn't matter... Executive privilege has been invoked. He wont be answering questions for anyone..

Doesn't matter... Executive privilege has been invoked. He wont be answering questions for anyone..

LOL...

Claiming executive privilege over a report that is already public is as useless as it is dumb.

Claiming executive privilege over a report that is already public

The public has access to the unredacted report?

Since when?

Well, obviously Mueller would not be testifying publicly to the redacted portions. No?

What, exactly, is the point of having him testify about the parts that are public? You can just read them. THAT'S what he has to say, right there in the pages. So why do we need this kabuki theatre of "Mr. Mueller, are these your words? Were they the truth?" Seriously, can any of you desperate TDS'ers tell me specifically what it is you think is going to happen?

 

[edward37]

Hopefully, trump will be made king.

He does need crowning