Newtie vs. The First Amendment

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    Isn't it ironic? Newt Gingrich uses the platform of an award banquet honoring those who defend freedom of speech to attack freedom of speech.

    <blockquote>"...we will adopt rules of engagement that we use every technology we can find to break up their capacity to use the Internet, to break up their capacity to use free speech, and to go after people who want to kill us..." - Newt Gingrich</blockquote>

    Newtie begs the question though of just who will decide what exercises in free-speech and just what web sites will be considered threats. Judging from recent events, it couls be Quakers, Veterans for Peace, or just about any group or individual that had spooken in opposition to Chimpy and Co's policies in general and the disaster in Iraq in particular.

    The fact of the matter is that freedom of speech is a great bulwark against extremist ideologies and terrorism we face today. Theses ideals, when examined in the open marketplace of ideas are quickly discredited and revealed for the spiritual, moral and intellectual frauds they truly are. Ridicule is also an effective means of forcing stupid, dangerous ideas to wither on the vine. So if Newtie, and his right wing-nut fellow travelers, wish to restrict free speech, I can only say "Let them try...", they can't keep up with the technology.

    In closing, Newt...Your mother was a hamster and your father reeked of elderberries.
     
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    He's probably against them having Second Amendment rights as well. Heck- he probably wants them to have no rights! What a bad man!:wtf:
     
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    Who is 'they' anyway? Since you omitted a complete version of his quote, I'd assume he is referring to foreign terrorists. If so I don't see what the problem is with it.
     
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    I heard his comments. There's nothing in Bully's quote that doesn't accurately represent what was said.

    Tell me, though, while they're looking for all these terrorists, how do they get to them without going thru us? Answer: they don't.

    But given how you guys wet yourselves with pleasure over the "patriot" act and the NSA spying on y'all, guess a little first amendment infringement doesn't bother you.... goes with infringing on the 4th amendment, right?

    Just so long as they don't touch your 2nd amendment, huh?
     
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    Newt's the man---he's already got the bleeding hearts pissed at him. Can't wait to watch him debate the socks of all takers.
     
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    Plenty of links:

    http://www.stephenbainbridge.com/2006/11/spinning_gingri.html


     
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    No problem with them touching "my" second Amendment by enforcing current laws and taking guns away from criminals.:)
     
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    Good luck, especially since he couldn't debate his way out of a wet paper bag.
     
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    Obviously you've never seen him debate. Or are blind. Or stupid.
     
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    Violating First Amendment rights of American citizens, thus undermining the Constitution, in order to capture terrorists is ceding a victory to terrorists they could never have hoped to win by their own efforts.

    And the willingness of so many to sacrifice the Constitution on the altar of national security is little more than a Pavlovian response to the bell ringing of neocons, theocons and others in this country who see the Constitution, not as a guarrantor of the rights of free people, but an impediment to their desire for power.

    We already had sufficient legal methods of tracking and monitoring terrorist operations at home and abroad in the form of FISA, Title III and other legislation, even before the mis-named USA PATRIOT Act.

    As for the McCain-Feingold Amendment, money does not equal free speech. Newtie's support of unlimited campaign contributions with no oversight beyond reporting the sum and the donors is argument enough for public financing of political campaigns.
     

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