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No. I'm saying you're responsible for the debts of the American government, I've never said you were responsible for racism in the 40s, 50s and 60s and you can't produce a quote of me doing so.Yes, you are.
Who is saying we should fund restorative justice with a specific tax on white people?Yes, and all of society paid for them, including the Japanese folks here paying taxes. It was not just the white people that had to pay.
Where? Quote where they ask for the power to redline white people.The board gives itself the power to do so
Yes.Was it wrong when they did it?
Why?If you put a modifier in front of justice you no longer have actual justice.
There was absolutely collision among white society to redline and segregate Black society. Don't be stupidThere was no collusion
The same question could be asked of any bnlack person harmed by the previous policy
Yes.
Why?
There's different kinds of justice. If someone burns your house down there's the justice of that person going to jail and there is the justice of being compensated for the financial harm caused. Just because I use the term restorative justice to specify the latter doesn't mean that it isn't justice.Because you either have justice for all, or you have no justice.
Yes.
Why?
Wronjg your claim did stupid and falseThere was absolutely collision among white society to redline and segregate Black society. Don't be stupid
Irony from the poster with no rational arguments .... as reparations are not rational -- especially given the rationale provided in the recommendations. It's gone from a slavery viewpoint (which California outlawed after it became a state) to .. everything else. Reparations doesn't solve problems .. it's a band-aid approach, and how ironic that Newsom will most likely run for president soon ..Hyperbole is all you have because you don't have a rational argument for why victims of segregation and redlining shouldn't receive justice.
It is not justice of any sort because it puniches those who did NOTHINGThere's different kinds of justice. If someone burns your house down there's the justice of that person going to jail and there is the justice of being compensated for the financial harm caused. Just because I use the term restorative justice to specify the latter doesn't mean that it isn't justice.
What's wrong now? Where has the panel suggested redlining white people?But it's not wrong now?
Punish how?Really? Because you will inherently be propagating an injustice against someone else when you do so. That's not actual justice. In this example you want to punish one group (who didnt actually commit the injustice) to benefit another group (to whom the injustice wasnt committed against). In what fantasy world is that "justice"?
There's different kinds of justice. If someone burns your house down there's the justice of that person going to jail and there is the justice of being compensated for the financial harm caused. Just because I use the term restorative justice to specify the latter doesn't mean that it isn't justice.
That is a false equivelenceWhat wrong? If you harm someone and are being forced to compensate them for that harm can that really be considered harm against you?
What's wrong now? Where has the panel suggested redlining white people?
Punish how?
There's different kinds of justice. If someone burns your house down there's the justice of that person going to jail and there is the justice of being compensated for the financial harm caused. Just because I use the term restorative justice to specify the latter doesn't mean that it isn't justice.
Reparations are no different a concept from someone who was stolen from being compensated by the thief except with Reparations the thief is usually a government. What's irrational about that?Irony from the poster with no rational arguments .... as reparations are not rational -- especially given the rationale provided in the recommendations. It's gone from a slavery viewpoint (which California outlawed after it became a state) to .. everything else. Reparations doesn't solve problems .. it's a band-aid approach, and how ironic that Newsom will most likely run for president soon ..
This is not just one side versus another side. Within one side the authoritarians screw over their own also. Which gives your side the advantage. There is current ill-gotten gains. Now in another angle.. How many private business white people will go into ghettos today to perform a service without trepidation? Tell me. Asking for payment up front in cash. Let alone after the service is done. Reality today. Reality that is reality.That's what white people did during segregation you historically ignorant Dipshit.
Why do some whites not understand restorative justice is going to entail giving up some of those previous ill gotten gains.
The problem here is that the American government was a party to these injustices.
.According to the OP yes. And you said it was ok because it happened in the past.
I should have known better than to think you wanted to have an actual honest conversation about anything. I apologize. I forgot who I was talking to.
The OP isn't on the panel. I'm asking for your evidence that the panel recommending redlining.According to the OP yes. And you said it was ok because it happened in the past.
Your honest conversation is to rely on the OPs say so....I should have known better than to think you wanted to have an actual honest conversation about anything. I apologize. I forgot who I was talking to.
Who is being wronged by giving favorable loans to previous victims of injustice?And? What does this have to do with loans being take out today? The old adage, two wrongs don’t make right comes to mind.
