New gun study

[Brain357]

LOL @ libs that want to take our guns away so they can steal our stuff. Sorry guys, it ain't happening.

Still scared of imaginary people? Why so much paranoia with the right wing? Can't be healthy.

Turn on the news sometime. Libs doing all kinds of shit. Stealing, raping, murdering, busting into homes, etc.

Think you are talking about criminals. Most of them don't or can't vote.

Voting has nothing to do with it.

Yes it does. If they aren't politically active they are neither party.

 

[2aguy]

LOL @ libs that want to take our guns away so they can steal our stuff. Sorry guys, it ain't happening.

Still scared of imaginary people? Why so much paranoia with the right wing? Can't be healthy.

Turn on the news sometime. Libs doing all kinds of shit. Stealing, raping, murdering, busting into homes, etc.

Think you are talking about criminals. Most of them don't or can't vote.

Actually, in Chicago the gangs have a lot of power. They help get aldermen elected...and run candidates that are gang related. And those aldermen are not republicans.

 

[Brain357]

LOL @ libs that want to take our guns away so they can steal our stuff. Sorry guys, it ain't happening.

Still scared of imaginary people? Why so much paranoia with the right wing? Can't be healthy.

Turn on the news sometime. Libs doing all kinds of shit. Stealing, raping, murdering, busting into homes, etc.

Think you are talking about criminals. Most of them don't or can't vote.

Actually, in Chicago the gangs have a lot of power. They help get aldermen elected...and run candidates that are gang related. And those aldermen are not republicans.

Interesting. Link?

 

[Iceweasel]

LOL @ libs that want to take our guns away so they can steal our stuff. Sorry guys, it ain't happening.

Still scared of imaginary people? Why so much paranoia with the right wing? Can't be healthy.

Turn on the news sometime. Libs doing all kinds of shit. Stealing, raping, murdering, busting into homes, etc.

Think you are talking about criminals. Most of them don't or can't vote.

Voting has nothing to do with it.

Yes it does. If they aren't politically active they are neither party.

Liberal isn't a political party. Einstein.

 

[Brain357]

Still scared of imaginary people? Why so much paranoia with the right wing? Can't be healthy.

Turn on the news sometime. Libs doing all kinds of shit. Stealing, raping, murdering, busting into homes, etc.

Think you are talking about criminals. Most of them don't or can't vote.

Voting has nothing to do with it.

Yes it does. If they aren't politically active they are neither party.

Liberal isn't a political party. Einstein.

And criminals aren't liberal. Based on their selfishness they are much more conservative. But I would guess most don't know the difference. Your claim is just dumb.

 

[2aguy]

Turn on the news sometime. Libs doing all kinds of shit. Stealing, raping, murdering, busting into homes, etc.

Think you are talking about criminals. Most of them don't or can't vote.

Voting has nothing to do with it.

Yes it does. If they aren't politically active they are neither party.

Liberal isn't a political party. Einstein.

And criminals aren't liberal. Based on their selfishness they are much more conservative. But I would guess most don't know the difference. Your claim is just dumb.

Actually, "liberal" is what American Conservatives actually are, they believe in the principals in the Constitution, the bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence, individual liberty, and limited government hemmed in by separation of power and checks and balances......

Today, "liberal" is a word taken by big government, tax, spend and borrow lefists/statists to hide who they really are...since they represent nothing that is actually "classical liberal."

And criminals in these communities when they vote vote for democrats, not republicans which is why the democrat are pushing so hare to allow convicted felons to vote.

 

[Brain357]

Think you are talking about criminals. Most of them don't or can't vote.

Voting has nothing to do with it.

Yes it does. If they aren't politically active they are neither party.

Liberal isn't a political party. Einstein.

And criminals aren't liberal. Based on their selfishness they are much more conservative. But I would guess most don't know the difference. Your claim is just dumb.

Actually, "liberal" is what American Conservatives actually are, they believe in the principals in the Constitution, the bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence, individual liberty, and limited government hemmed in by separation of power and checks and balances......

Today, "liberal" is a word taken by big government, tax, spend and borrow lefists/statists to hide who they really are...since they represent nothing that is actually "classical liberal."

And criminals in these communities when they vote vote for democrats, not republicans which is why the democrat are pushing so hare to allow convicted felons to vote.

I really don't think any significant number of them vote.

 

[2aguy]

Voting has nothing to do with it.

Yes it does. If they aren't politically active they are neither party.

Liberal isn't a political party. Einstein.

And criminals aren't liberal. Based on their selfishness they are much more conservative. But I would guess most don't know the difference. Your claim is just dumb.

Actually, "liberal" is what American Conservatives actually are, they believe in the principals in the Constitution, the bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence, individual liberty, and limited government hemmed in by separation of power and checks and balances......

Today, "liberal" is a word taken by big government, tax, spend and borrow lefists/statists to hide who they really are...since they represent nothing that is actually "classical liberal."

And criminals in these communities when they vote vote for democrats, not republicans which is why the democrat are pushing so hare to allow convicted felons to vote.

I really don't think any significant number of them vote.

Oh yeah......right now convicted felons can't, but they still do in chicago, and the democrat want to make it legal for them to vote....

And here is a look at gangs and politics in Chicago...and don't tell me they are helping republicans....

Gangs and Politicians in Chicago An Unholy Alliance Chicago magazine January 2012

Baskin isn’t a slick campaign strategist. He’s a former gang leader and, for several decades, a community activist who now operates a neighborhood center that aims to keep kids off the streets. Baskin has deep contacts inside the South Side’s complex network of politicians, community organizations, and street gangs. as he recalls, the inquiring candidates wanted to know: “Who do I need to be talking to so I can get the gangs on board?”


Baskin—who was himself a candidate in the 16th Ward aldermanic race, which he would lose—was happy to oblige. In all, he says, he helped broker meetings between roughly 30 politicians (ten sitting aldermen and 20 candidates for City Council) and at least six gang representatives. That claim is backed up by two other community activists, Harold Davis Jr. and Kublai K. M. Toure, who worked with Baskin to arrange the meetings, and a third participant, also a community activist, who requested anonymity. The gang representatives were former chiefs who had walked away from day-to-day thug life, but they were still respected on the streets and wielded enough influence to mobilize active gang members.


The first meeting, according to Baskin, occurred in early November 2010, right before the statewide general election; more gatherings followed in the run-up to the February 2011 municipal elections. The venues included office buildings, restaurants, and law offices. (By all accounts, similar meetings took place across the city before last year’s elections and in elections past, including after hours at the Garfield Center, a taxpayer-financed facility on the West Side that is used by the city’s Department of Family and Support Services.)


At some of the meetings, the politicians arrived with campaign materials and occasionally with aides. The sessions were organized much like corporate-style job fairs. The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”


This is also why you have rampant gun crime in chicago...not law abiding citizens owning guns.....

 

[Brain357]

Yes it does. If they aren't politically active they are neither party.

Liberal isn't a political party. Einstein.

And criminals aren't liberal. Based on their selfishness they are much more conservative. But I would guess most don't know the difference. Your claim is just dumb.

Actually, "liberal" is what American Conservatives actually are, they believe in the principals in the Constitution, the bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence, individual liberty, and limited government hemmed in by separation of power and checks and balances......

Today, "liberal" is a word taken by big government, tax, spend and borrow lefists/statists to hide who they really are...since they represent nothing that is actually "classical liberal."

And criminals in these communities when they vote vote for democrats, not republicans which is why the democrat are pushing so hare to allow convicted felons to vote.

I really don't think any significant number of them vote.

Oh yeah......right now convicted felons can't, but they still do in chicago, and the democrat want to make it legal for them to vote....

And here is a look at gangs and politics in Chicago...and don't tell me they are helping republicans....

Gangs and Politicians in Chicago An Unholy Alliance Chicago magazine January 2012

Baskin isn’t a slick campaign strategist. He’s a former gang leader and, for several decades, a community activist who now operates a neighborhood center that aims to keep kids off the streets. Baskin has deep contacts inside the South Side’s complex network of politicians, community organizations, and street gangs. as he recalls, the inquiring candidates wanted to know: “Who do I need to be talking to so I can get the gangs on board?”


Baskin—who was himself a candidate in the 16th Ward aldermanic race, which he would lose—was happy to oblige. In all, he says, he helped broker meetings between roughly 30 politicians (ten sitting aldermen and 20 candidates for City Council) and at least six gang representatives. That claim is backed up by two other community activists, Harold Davis Jr. and Kublai K. M. Toure, who worked with Baskin to arrange the meetings, and a third participant, also a community activist, who requested anonymity. The gang representatives were former chiefs who had walked away from day-to-day thug life, but they were still respected on the streets and wielded enough influence to mobilize active gang members.


The first meeting, according to Baskin, occurred in early November 2010, right before the statewide general election; more gatherings followed in the run-up to the February 2011 municipal elections. The venues included office buildings, restaurants, and law offices. (By all accounts, similar meetings took place across the city before last year’s elections and in elections past, including after hours at the Garfield Center, a taxpayer-financed facility on the West Side that is used by the city’s Department of Family and Support Services.)


At some of the meetings, the politicians arrived with campaign materials and occasionally with aides. The sessions were organized much like corporate-style job fairs. The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”


This is also why you have rampant gun crime in chicago...not law abiding citizens owning guns.....

Thanks for sharing. Not really surprising in a state where like 3 governors have gone to jail? A republican in there I believe. From the article it doesn't sound so evil:
The former gang chiefs then peppered them with questions: What would they do about jobs? School safety? Police harassment? Help for ex-cons?

I don't see in the article where it's democrats only doing this.

 

[2aguy]

Liberal isn't a political party. Einstein.

And criminals aren't liberal. Based on their selfishness they are much more conservative. But I would guess most don't know the difference. Your claim is just dumb.

Actually, "liberal" is what American Conservatives actually are, they believe in the principals in the Constitution, the bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence, individual liberty, and limited government hemmed in by separation of power and checks and balances......

Today, "liberal" is a word taken by big government, tax, spend and borrow lefists/statists to hide who they really are...since they represent nothing that is actually "classical liberal."

And criminals in these communities when they vote vote for democrats, not republicans which is why the democrat are pushing so hare to allow convicted felons to vote.

I really don't think any significant number of them vote.

Oh yeah......right now convicted felons can't, but they still do in chicago, and the democrat want to make it legal for them to vote....

And here is a look at gangs and politics in Chicago...and don't tell me they are helping republicans....

Gangs and Politicians in Chicago An Unholy Alliance Chicago magazine January 2012

Baskin isn’t a slick campaign strategist. He’s a former gang leader and, for several decades, a community activist who now operates a neighborhood center that aims to keep kids off the streets. Baskin has deep contacts inside the South Side’s complex network of politicians, community organizations, and street gangs. as he recalls, the inquiring candidates wanted to know: “Who do I need to be talking to so I can get the gangs on board?”


Baskin—who was himself a candidate in the 16th Ward aldermanic race, which he would lose—was happy to oblige. In all, he says, he helped broker meetings between roughly 30 politicians (ten sitting aldermen and 20 candidates for City Council) and at least six gang representatives. That claim is backed up by two other community activists, Harold Davis Jr. and Kublai K. M. Toure, who worked with Baskin to arrange the meetings, and a third participant, also a community activist, who requested anonymity. The gang representatives were former chiefs who had walked away from day-to-day thug life, but they were still respected on the streets and wielded enough influence to mobilize active gang members.


The first meeting, according to Baskin, occurred in early November 2010, right before the statewide general election; more gatherings followed in the run-up to the February 2011 municipal elections. The venues included office buildings, restaurants, and law offices. (By all accounts, similar meetings took place across the city before last year’s elections and in elections past, including after hours at the Garfield Center, a taxpayer-financed facility on the West Side that is used by the city’s Department of Family and Support Services.)


At some of the meetings, the politicians arrived with campaign materials and occasionally with aides. The sessions were organized much like corporate-style job fairs. The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”


This is also why you have rampant gun crime in chicago...not law abiding citizens owning guns.....

Thanks for sharing. Not really surprising in a state where like 3 governors have gone to jail? A republican in there I believe. From the article it doesn't sound so evil:
The former gang chiefs then peppered them with questions: What would they do about jobs? School safety? Police harassment? Help for ex-cons?

I don't see in the article where it's democrats only doing this.

What do you mean it doesn't sound so evil.......vicious street gangs who are responsible for the gun murder rate you keep complaining about are selecting candidates for alderman......this is why chicago has such a high murder rate, they have their minions in the Chicago City council vote against more police, use their influence to get light sentences for gun crimes, and then you say....yeah, but we need to make it harder for law abiding people to get guns...as if they are the problem....

The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”

It is statements like the one above..."...it doesn't sound so evil:" that make me take you less seriously brain....

Do you think the concerns of these gangs were better schools and lower taxes....?

The gang representatives were interested in electing aldermen sympathetic to their interests and those of their impoverished wards. As for the politicians, says Baskin, their interests essentially boiled down to getting elected or reelected. “All of [the political hopefuls] were aware of who they were meeting with,” he says. “They didn’t care. All they wanted to do was get the support.”

Baskin declined to name names, but Chicago has learned, through other sources at the meetings, the identities of some of the participants. They include: Aldermen Howard Brookins Jr. (21st Ward), Walter Burnett Jr. (27th), Willie Cochran (20th), and Freddrenna Lyle (6th). Alderman Pat Dowell (3rd) attended a meeting; upon realizing that the participants had close gang ties, she objected but stayed. Also attending were candidates who would go on to win their races, including Michael Chandler (24th) and Roderick Sawyer (6th). Darcel Beavers, the former 7th Ward alderman who would wind up losing her race, and Patricia Horton, a commissioner with the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District who lost her bid for city clerk, also met with the group.

only a lefty/statist would turn these vicious monsters into noble community activists...and you wonder why Chicago is a shooting gallery....?

 

[2aguy]

Liberal isn't a political party. Einstein.

And criminals aren't liberal. Based on their selfishness they are much more conservative. But I would guess most don't know the difference. Your claim is just dumb.

Actually, "liberal" is what American Conservatives actually are, they believe in the principals in the Constitution, the bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence, individual liberty, and limited government hemmed in by separation of power and checks and balances......

Today, "liberal" is a word taken by big government, tax, spend and borrow lefists/statists to hide who they really are...since they represent nothing that is actually "classical liberal."

And criminals in these communities when they vote vote for democrats, not republicans which is why the democrat are pushing so hare to allow convicted felons to vote.

I really don't think any significant number of them vote.

Oh yeah......right now convicted felons can't, but they still do in chicago, and the democrat want to make it legal for them to vote....

And here is a look at gangs and politics in Chicago...and don't tell me they are helping republicans....

Gangs and Politicians in Chicago An Unholy Alliance Chicago magazine January 2012

Baskin isn’t a slick campaign strategist. He’s a former gang leader and, for several decades, a community activist who now operates a neighborhood center that aims to keep kids off the streets. Baskin has deep contacts inside the South Side’s complex network of politicians, community organizations, and street gangs. as he recalls, the inquiring candidates wanted to know: “Who do I need to be talking to so I can get the gangs on board?”


Baskin—who was himself a candidate in the 16th Ward aldermanic race, which he would lose—was happy to oblige. In all, he says, he helped broker meetings between roughly 30 politicians (ten sitting aldermen and 20 candidates for City Council) and at least six gang representatives. That claim is backed up by two other community activists, Harold Davis Jr. and Kublai K. M. Toure, who worked with Baskin to arrange the meetings, and a third participant, also a community activist, who requested anonymity. The gang representatives were former chiefs who had walked away from day-to-day thug life, but they were still respected on the streets and wielded enough influence to mobilize active gang members.


The first meeting, according to Baskin, occurred in early November 2010, right before the statewide general election; more gatherings followed in the run-up to the February 2011 municipal elections. The venues included office buildings, restaurants, and law offices. (By all accounts, similar meetings took place across the city before last year’s elections and in elections past, including after hours at the Garfield Center, a taxpayer-financed facility on the West Side that is used by the city’s Department of Family and Support Services.)


At some of the meetings, the politicians arrived with campaign materials and occasionally with aides. The sessions were organized much like corporate-style job fairs. The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”


This is also why you have rampant gun crime in chicago...not law abiding citizens owning guns.....

Thanks for sharing. Not really surprising in a state where like 3 governors have gone to jail? A republican in there I believe. From the article it doesn't sound so evil:
The former gang chiefs then peppered them with questions: What would they do about jobs? School safety? Police harassment? Help for ex-cons?

I don't see in the article where it's democrats only doing this.

What would they do about jobs? School safety? Police harassment? Help for ex-cons?

Really brain....really? You are not a serious person.........much like all left wing statists your moral compass is not only broken it doesn't really exist..........these gang members are monsters, they are not concerned about schools, and help for ex cons other than to aid them in reentering the criminal underworld........

Wow.....

Most alarming, both law enforcement and gang sources say, is that some politicians ignore the gangs’ criminal activities. Some go so far as to protect gangs from the police, tipping them off to impending raids or to surveillance activities—in effect, creating safe havens in their political districts. And often they chafe at backing tough measures to stem gang activities, advocating instead for superficial solutions that may garner good press but have little impact.

The paradox is that Chicago’s struggle to combat street gangs is being undermined by its own elected officials. And the alliances between lawmakers and lawbreakers raise a troubling question: Who actually rules the neighborhoods—our public servants or the gangs?

 

[2aguy]

But also, thank you brain....with your questions today you helped me pinpoint another area in why there is so much gun crime in Chicago....

 

[Brain357]

And criminals aren't liberal. Based on their selfishness they are much more conservative. But I would guess most don't know the difference. Your claim is just dumb.

Actually, "liberal" is what American Conservatives actually are, they believe in the principals in the Constitution, the bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence, individual liberty, and limited government hemmed in by separation of power and checks and balances......

Today, "liberal" is a word taken by big government, tax, spend and borrow lefists/statists to hide who they really are...since they represent nothing that is actually "classical liberal."

And criminals in these communities when they vote vote for democrats, not republicans which is why the democrat are pushing so hare to allow convicted felons to vote.

I really don't think any significant number of them vote.

Oh yeah......right now convicted felons can't, but they still do in chicago, and the democrat want to make it legal for them to vote....

And here is a look at gangs and politics in Chicago...and don't tell me they are helping republicans....

Gangs and Politicians in Chicago An Unholy Alliance Chicago magazine January 2012

Baskin isn’t a slick campaign strategist. He’s a former gang leader and, for several decades, a community activist who now operates a neighborhood center that aims to keep kids off the streets. Baskin has deep contacts inside the South Side’s complex network of politicians, community organizations, and street gangs. as he recalls, the inquiring candidates wanted to know: “Who do I need to be talking to so I can get the gangs on board?”


Baskin—who was himself a candidate in the 16th Ward aldermanic race, which he would lose—was happy to oblige. In all, he says, he helped broker meetings between roughly 30 politicians (ten sitting aldermen and 20 candidates for City Council) and at least six gang representatives. That claim is backed up by two other community activists, Harold Davis Jr. and Kublai K. M. Toure, who worked with Baskin to arrange the meetings, and a third participant, also a community activist, who requested anonymity. The gang representatives were former chiefs who had walked away from day-to-day thug life, but they were still respected on the streets and wielded enough influence to mobilize active gang members.


The first meeting, according to Baskin, occurred in early November 2010, right before the statewide general election; more gatherings followed in the run-up to the February 2011 municipal elections. The venues included office buildings, restaurants, and law offices. (By all accounts, similar meetings took place across the city before last year’s elections and in elections past, including after hours at the Garfield Center, a taxpayer-financed facility on the West Side that is used by the city’s Department of Family and Support Services.)


At some of the meetings, the politicians arrived with campaign materials and occasionally with aides. The sessions were organized much like corporate-style job fairs. The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”


This is also why you have rampant gun crime in chicago...not law abiding citizens owning guns.....

Thanks for sharing. Not really surprising in a state where like 3 governors have gone to jail? A republican in there I believe. From the article it doesn't sound so evil:
The former gang chiefs then peppered them with questions: What would they do about jobs? School safety? Police harassment? Help for ex-cons?

I don't see in the article where it's democrats only doing this.

What do you mean it doesn't sound so evil.......vicious street gangs who are responsible for the gun murder rate you keep complaining about are selecting candidates for alderman......this is why chicago has such a high murder rate, they have their minions in the Chicago City council vote against more police, use their influence to get light sentences for gun crimes, and then you say....yeah, but we need to make it harder for law abiding people to get guns...as if they are the problem....

The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”

It is statements like the one above..."...it doesn't sound so evil:" that make me take you less seriously brain....

Do you think the concerns of these gangs were better schools and lower taxes....?

The gang representatives were interested in electing aldermen sympathetic to their interests and those of their impoverished wards. As for the politicians, says Baskin, their interests essentially boiled down to getting elected or reelected. “All of [the political hopefuls] were aware of who they were meeting with,” he says. “They didn’t care. All they wanted to do was get the support.”

Baskin declined to name names, but Chicago has learned, through other sources at the meetings, the identities of some of the participants. They include: Aldermen Howard Brookins Jr. (21st Ward), Walter Burnett Jr. (27th), Willie Cochran (20th), and Freddrenna Lyle (6th). Alderman Pat Dowell (3rd) attended a meeting; upon realizing that the participants had close gang ties, she objected but stayed. Also attending were candidates who would go on to win their races, including Michael Chandler (24th) and Roderick Sawyer (6th). Darcel Beavers, the former 7th Ward alderman who would wind up losing her race, and Patricia Horton, a commissioner with the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District who lost her bid for city clerk, also met with the group.

only a lefty/statist would turn these vicious monsters into noble community activists...and you wonder why Chicago is a shooting gallery....?

Based on the examples of the questions asked they don't sound so evil.
The former gang chiefs then peppered them with questions: What would they do about jobs? School safety? Police harassment? Help for ex-cons?

School safety is evil to you?

Lots of politicians have gone to jail for being crooked from both parties.

I can't imagine gang support does much to get one elected.

 

[Brain357]

But also, thank you brain....with your questions today you helped me pinpoint another area in why there is so much gun crime in Chicago....

Hope something is done about it.

 

[2aguy]

Actually, "liberal" is what American Conservatives actually are, they believe in the principals in the Constitution, the bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence, individual liberty, and limited government hemmed in by separation of power and checks and balances......

Today, "liberal" is a word taken by big government, tax, spend and borrow lefists/statists to hide who they really are...since they represent nothing that is actually "classical liberal."

And criminals in these communities when they vote vote for democrats, not republicans which is why the democrat are pushing so hare to allow convicted felons to vote.

I really don't think any significant number of them vote.

Oh yeah......right now convicted felons can't, but they still do in chicago, and the democrat want to make it legal for them to vote....

And here is a look at gangs and politics in Chicago...and don't tell me they are helping republicans....

Gangs and Politicians in Chicago An Unholy Alliance Chicago magazine January 2012

Baskin isn’t a slick campaign strategist. He’s a former gang leader and, for several decades, a community activist who now operates a neighborhood center that aims to keep kids off the streets. Baskin has deep contacts inside the South Side’s complex network of politicians, community organizations, and street gangs. as he recalls, the inquiring candidates wanted to know: “Who do I need to be talking to so I can get the gangs on board?”


Baskin—who was himself a candidate in the 16th Ward aldermanic race, which he would lose—was happy to oblige. In all, he says, he helped broker meetings between roughly 30 politicians (ten sitting aldermen and 20 candidates for City Council) and at least six gang representatives. That claim is backed up by two other community activists, Harold Davis Jr. and Kublai K. M. Toure, who worked with Baskin to arrange the meetings, and a third participant, also a community activist, who requested anonymity. The gang representatives were former chiefs who had walked away from day-to-day thug life, but they were still respected on the streets and wielded enough influence to mobilize active gang members.


The first meeting, according to Baskin, occurred in early November 2010, right before the statewide general election; more gatherings followed in the run-up to the February 2011 municipal elections. The venues included office buildings, restaurants, and law offices. (By all accounts, similar meetings took place across the city before last year’s elections and in elections past, including after hours at the Garfield Center, a taxpayer-financed facility on the West Side that is used by the city’s Department of Family and Support Services.)


At some of the meetings, the politicians arrived with campaign materials and occasionally with aides. The sessions were organized much like corporate-style job fairs. The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”


This is also why you have rampant gun crime in chicago...not law abiding citizens owning guns.....

Thanks for sharing. Not really surprising in a state where like 3 governors have gone to jail? A republican in there I believe. From the article it doesn't sound so evil:
The former gang chiefs then peppered them with questions: What would they do about jobs? School safety? Police harassment? Help for ex-cons?

I don't see in the article where it's democrats only doing this.

What do you mean it doesn't sound so evil.......vicious street gangs who are responsible for the gun murder rate you keep complaining about are selecting candidates for alderman......this is why chicago has such a high murder rate, they have their minions in the Chicago City council vote against more police, use their influence to get light sentences for gun crimes, and then you say....yeah, but we need to make it harder for law abiding people to get guns...as if they are the problem....

The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”

It is statements like the one above..."...it doesn't sound so evil:" that make me take you less seriously brain....

Do you think the concerns of these gangs were better schools and lower taxes....?

The gang representatives were interested in electing aldermen sympathetic to their interests and those of their impoverished wards. As for the politicians, says Baskin, their interests essentially boiled down to getting elected or reelected. “All of [the political hopefuls] were aware of who they were meeting with,” he says. “They didn’t care. All they wanted to do was get the support.”

Baskin declined to name names, but Chicago has learned, through other sources at the meetings, the identities of some of the participants. They include: Aldermen Howard Brookins Jr. (21st Ward), Walter Burnett Jr. (27th), Willie Cochran (20th), and Freddrenna Lyle (6th). Alderman Pat Dowell (3rd) attended a meeting; upon realizing that the participants had close gang ties, she objected but stayed. Also attending were candidates who would go on to win their races, including Michael Chandler (24th) and Roderick Sawyer (6th). Darcel Beavers, the former 7th Ward alderman who would wind up losing her race, and Patricia Horton, a commissioner with the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District who lost her bid for city clerk, also met with the group.

only a lefty/statist would turn these vicious monsters into noble community activists...and you wonder why Chicago is a shooting gallery....?

Based on the examples of the questions asked they don't sound so evil.
The former gang chiefs then peppered them with questions: What would they do about jobs? School safety? Police harassment? Help for ex-cons?

School safety is evil to you?

Lots of politicians have gone to jail for being crooked from both parties.

I can't imagine gang support does much to get one elected.

Again brain....you are either really stupid or really naive........yes.....the gangs murdering children in these neighborhoods are vitally concerned about school safety...........just fucking unbelievable.......

 

[2aguy]

Actually, "liberal" is what American Conservatives actually are, they believe in the principals in the Constitution, the bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence, individual liberty, and limited government hemmed in by separation of power and checks and balances......

Today, "liberal" is a word taken by big government, tax, spend and borrow lefists/statists to hide who they really are...since they represent nothing that is actually "classical liberal."

And criminals in these communities when they vote vote for democrats, not republicans which is why the democrat are pushing so hare to allow convicted felons to vote.

I really don't think any significant number of them vote.

Oh yeah......right now convicted felons can't, but they still do in chicago, and the democrat want to make it legal for them to vote....

And here is a look at gangs and politics in Chicago...and don't tell me they are helping republicans....

Gangs and Politicians in Chicago An Unholy Alliance Chicago magazine January 2012

Baskin isn’t a slick campaign strategist. He’s a former gang leader and, for several decades, a community activist who now operates a neighborhood center that aims to keep kids off the streets. Baskin has deep contacts inside the South Side’s complex network of politicians, community organizations, and street gangs. as he recalls, the inquiring candidates wanted to know: “Who do I need to be talking to so I can get the gangs on board?”


Baskin—who was himself a candidate in the 16th Ward aldermanic race, which he would lose—was happy to oblige. In all, he says, he helped broker meetings between roughly 30 politicians (ten sitting aldermen and 20 candidates for City Council) and at least six gang representatives. That claim is backed up by two other community activists, Harold Davis Jr. and Kublai K. M. Toure, who worked with Baskin to arrange the meetings, and a third participant, also a community activist, who requested anonymity. The gang representatives were former chiefs who had walked away from day-to-day thug life, but they were still respected on the streets and wielded enough influence to mobilize active gang members.


The first meeting, according to Baskin, occurred in early November 2010, right before the statewide general election; more gatherings followed in the run-up to the February 2011 municipal elections. The venues included office buildings, restaurants, and law offices. (By all accounts, similar meetings took place across the city before last year’s elections and in elections past, including after hours at the Garfield Center, a taxpayer-financed facility on the West Side that is used by the city’s Department of Family and Support Services.)


At some of the meetings, the politicians arrived with campaign materials and occasionally with aides. The sessions were organized much like corporate-style job fairs. The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”


This is also why you have rampant gun crime in chicago...not law abiding citizens owning guns.....

Thanks for sharing. Not really surprising in a state where like 3 governors have gone to jail? A republican in there I believe. From the article it doesn't sound so evil:
The former gang chiefs then peppered them with questions: What would they do about jobs? School safety? Police harassment? Help for ex-cons?

I don't see in the article where it's democrats only doing this.

What do you mean it doesn't sound so evil.......vicious street gangs who are responsible for the gun murder rate you keep complaining about are selecting candidates for alderman......this is why chicago has such a high murder rate, they have their minions in the Chicago City council vote against more police, use their influence to get light sentences for gun crimes, and then you say....yeah, but we need to make it harder for law abiding people to get guns...as if they are the problem....

The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”

It is statements like the one above..."...it doesn't sound so evil:" that make me take you less seriously brain....

Do you think the concerns of these gangs were better schools and lower taxes....?

The gang representatives were interested in electing aldermen sympathetic to their interests and those of their impoverished wards. As for the politicians, says Baskin, their interests essentially boiled down to getting elected or reelected. “All of [the political hopefuls] were aware of who they were meeting with,” he says. “They didn’t care. All they wanted to do was get the support.”

Baskin declined to name names, but Chicago has learned, through other sources at the meetings, the identities of some of the participants. They include: Aldermen Howard Brookins Jr. (21st Ward), Walter Burnett Jr. (27th), Willie Cochran (20th), and Freddrenna Lyle (6th). Alderman Pat Dowell (3rd) attended a meeting; upon realizing that the participants had close gang ties, she objected but stayed. Also attending were candidates who would go on to win their races, including Michael Chandler (24th) and Roderick Sawyer (6th). Darcel Beavers, the former 7th Ward alderman who would wind up losing her race, and Patricia Horton, a commissioner with the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District who lost her bid for city clerk, also met with the group.

only a lefty/statist would turn these vicious monsters into noble community activists...and you wonder why Chicago is a shooting gallery....?

Based on the examples of the questions asked they don't sound so evil.
The former gang chiefs then peppered them with questions: What would they do about jobs? School safety? Police harassment? Help for ex-cons?

School safety is evil to you?

Lots of politicians have gone to jail for being crooked from both parties.

I can't imagine gang support does much to get one elected.

I can't imagine gang support does much to get one elected

Gangs can provide a decisive advantage at election time by performing the kinds of chores patronage armies once did.

They can also intimidate or kill the campaign workers of opponents to their favored candidates....



Gangs and Politicians in Chicago An Unholy Alliance Chicago magazine January 2012

Most alarming, both law enforcement and gang sources say, is that some politicians ignore the gangs’ criminal activities. Some go so far as to protect gangs from the police, tipping them off to impending raids or to surveillance activities—in effect, creating safe havens in their political districts. And often they chafe at backing tough measures to stem gang activities, advocating instead for superficial solutions that may garner good press but have little impact.

 

[Brain357]

I really don't think any significant number of them vote.

Oh yeah......right now convicted felons can't, but they still do in chicago, and the democrat want to make it legal for them to vote....

And here is a look at gangs and politics in Chicago...and don't tell me they are helping republicans....

Gangs and Politicians in Chicago An Unholy Alliance Chicago magazine January 2012

Baskin isn’t a slick campaign strategist. He’s a former gang leader and, for several decades, a community activist who now operates a neighborhood center that aims to keep kids off the streets. Baskin has deep contacts inside the South Side’s complex network of politicians, community organizations, and street gangs. as he recalls, the inquiring candidates wanted to know: “Who do I need to be talking to so I can get the gangs on board?”


Baskin—who was himself a candidate in the 16th Ward aldermanic race, which he would lose—was happy to oblige. In all, he says, he helped broker meetings between roughly 30 politicians (ten sitting aldermen and 20 candidates for City Council) and at least six gang representatives. That claim is backed up by two other community activists, Harold Davis Jr. and Kublai K. M. Toure, who worked with Baskin to arrange the meetings, and a third participant, also a community activist, who requested anonymity. The gang representatives were former chiefs who had walked away from day-to-day thug life, but they were still respected on the streets and wielded enough influence to mobilize active gang members.


The first meeting, according to Baskin, occurred in early November 2010, right before the statewide general election; more gatherings followed in the run-up to the February 2011 municipal elections. The venues included office buildings, restaurants, and law offices. (By all accounts, similar meetings took place across the city before last year’s elections and in elections past, including after hours at the Garfield Center, a taxpayer-financed facility on the West Side that is used by the city’s Department of Family and Support Services.)


At some of the meetings, the politicians arrived with campaign materials and occasionally with aides. The sessions were organized much like corporate-style job fairs. The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”


This is also why you have rampant gun crime in chicago...not law abiding citizens owning guns.....

Thanks for sharing. Not really surprising in a state where like 3 governors have gone to jail? A republican in there I believe. From the article it doesn't sound so evil:
The former gang chiefs then peppered them with questions: What would they do about jobs? School safety? Police harassment? Help for ex-cons?

I don't see in the article where it's democrats only doing this.

What do you mean it doesn't sound so evil.......vicious street gangs who are responsible for the gun murder rate you keep complaining about are selecting candidates for alderman......this is why chicago has such a high murder rate, they have their minions in the Chicago City council vote against more police, use their influence to get light sentences for gun crimes, and then you say....yeah, but we need to make it harder for law abiding people to get guns...as if they are the problem....

The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”

It is statements like the one above..."...it doesn't sound so evil:" that make me take you less seriously brain....

Do you think the concerns of these gangs were better schools and lower taxes....?

The gang representatives were interested in electing aldermen sympathetic to their interests and those of their impoverished wards. As for the politicians, says Baskin, their interests essentially boiled down to getting elected or reelected. “All of [the political hopefuls] were aware of who they were meeting with,” he says. “They didn’t care. All they wanted to do was get the support.”

Baskin declined to name names, but Chicago has learned, through other sources at the meetings, the identities of some of the participants. They include: Aldermen Howard Brookins Jr. (21st Ward), Walter Burnett Jr. (27th), Willie Cochran (20th), and Freddrenna Lyle (6th). Alderman Pat Dowell (3rd) attended a meeting; upon realizing that the participants had close gang ties, she objected but stayed. Also attending were candidates who would go on to win their races, including Michael Chandler (24th) and Roderick Sawyer (6th). Darcel Beavers, the former 7th Ward alderman who would wind up losing her race, and Patricia Horton, a commissioner with the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District who lost her bid for city clerk, also met with the group.

only a lefty/statist would turn these vicious monsters into noble community activists...and you wonder why Chicago is a shooting gallery....?

Based on the examples of the questions asked they don't sound so evil.
The former gang chiefs then peppered them with questions: What would they do about jobs? School safety? Police harassment? Help for ex-cons?

School safety is evil to you?

Lots of politicians have gone to jail for being crooked from both parties.

I can't imagine gang support does much to get one elected.

Again brain....you are either really stupid or really naive........yes.....the gangs murdering children in these neighborhoods are vitally concerned about school safety...........just fucking unbelievable.......

That is what YOUR article says. If you don't believe your own article why did you post it? Point out the evil in your article or find one that has it.

 

[Brain357]

I really don't think any significant number of them vote.

Oh yeah......right now convicted felons can't, but they still do in chicago, and the democrat want to make it legal for them to vote....

And here is a look at gangs and politics in Chicago...and don't tell me they are helping republicans....

Gangs and Politicians in Chicago An Unholy Alliance Chicago magazine January 2012

Baskin isn’t a slick campaign strategist. He’s a former gang leader and, for several decades, a community activist who now operates a neighborhood center that aims to keep kids off the streets. Baskin has deep contacts inside the South Side’s complex network of politicians, community organizations, and street gangs. as he recalls, the inquiring candidates wanted to know: “Who do I need to be talking to so I can get the gangs on board?”


Baskin—who was himself a candidate in the 16th Ward aldermanic race, which he would lose—was happy to oblige. In all, he says, he helped broker meetings between roughly 30 politicians (ten sitting aldermen and 20 candidates for City Council) and at least six gang representatives. That claim is backed up by two other community activists, Harold Davis Jr. and Kublai K. M. Toure, who worked with Baskin to arrange the meetings, and a third participant, also a community activist, who requested anonymity. The gang representatives were former chiefs who had walked away from day-to-day thug life, but they were still respected on the streets and wielded enough influence to mobilize active gang members.


The first meeting, according to Baskin, occurred in early November 2010, right before the statewide general election; more gatherings followed in the run-up to the February 2011 municipal elections. The venues included office buildings, restaurants, and law offices. (By all accounts, similar meetings took place across the city before last year’s elections and in elections past, including after hours at the Garfield Center, a taxpayer-financed facility on the West Side that is used by the city’s Department of Family and Support Services.)


At some of the meetings, the politicians arrived with campaign materials and occasionally with aides. The sessions were organized much like corporate-style job fairs. The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”


This is also why you have rampant gun crime in chicago...not law abiding citizens owning guns.....

Thanks for sharing. Not really surprising in a state where like 3 governors have gone to jail? A republican in there I believe. From the article it doesn't sound so evil:
The former gang chiefs then peppered them with questions: What would they do about jobs? School safety? Police harassment? Help for ex-cons?

I don't see in the article where it's democrats only doing this.

What do you mean it doesn't sound so evil.......vicious street gangs who are responsible for the gun murder rate you keep complaining about are selecting candidates for alderman......this is why chicago has such a high murder rate, they have their minions in the Chicago City council vote against more police, use their influence to get light sentences for gun crimes, and then you say....yeah, but we need to make it harder for law abiding people to get guns...as if they are the problem....

The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”

It is statements like the one above..."...it doesn't sound so evil:" that make me take you less seriously brain....

Do you think the concerns of these gangs were better schools and lower taxes....?

The gang representatives were interested in electing aldermen sympathetic to their interests and those of their impoverished wards. As for the politicians, says Baskin, their interests essentially boiled down to getting elected or reelected. “All of [the political hopefuls] were aware of who they were meeting with,” he says. “They didn’t care. All they wanted to do was get the support.”

Baskin declined to name names, but Chicago has learned, through other sources at the meetings, the identities of some of the participants. They include: Aldermen Howard Brookins Jr. (21st Ward), Walter Burnett Jr. (27th), Willie Cochran (20th), and Freddrenna Lyle (6th). Alderman Pat Dowell (3rd) attended a meeting; upon realizing that the participants had close gang ties, she objected but stayed. Also attending were candidates who would go on to win their races, including Michael Chandler (24th) and Roderick Sawyer (6th). Darcel Beavers, the former 7th Ward alderman who would wind up losing her race, and Patricia Horton, a commissioner with the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District who lost her bid for city clerk, also met with the group.

only a lefty/statist would turn these vicious monsters into noble community activists...and you wonder why Chicago is a shooting gallery....?

Based on the examples of the questions asked they don't sound so evil.
The former gang chiefs then peppered them with questions: What would they do about jobs? School safety? Police harassment? Help for ex-cons?

School safety is evil to you?

Lots of politicians have gone to jail for being crooked from both parties.

I can't imagine gang support does much to get one elected.

I can't imagine gang support does much to get one elected

Gangs can provide a decisive advantage at election time by performing the kinds of chores patronage armies once did.

They can also intimidate or kill the campaign workers of opponents to their favored candidates....



Gangs and Politicians in Chicago An Unholy Alliance Chicago magazine January 2012

Most alarming, both law enforcement and gang sources say, is that some politicians ignore the gangs’ criminal activities. Some go so far as to protect gangs from the police, tipping them off to impending raids or to surveillance activities—in effect, creating safe havens in their political districts. And often they chafe at backing tough measures to stem gang activities, advocating instead for superficial solutions that may garner good press but have little impact.

That is interesting. Any examples of elections where gang support made a difference? I just assume the democrat wins every time in Chicago.

For the record I wouldn't vote for anyone talking to gangs. Gangs are obviously the enemy.

 

[2aguy]

Oh yeah......right now convicted felons can't, but they still do in chicago, and the democrat want to make it legal for them to vote....

And here is a look at gangs and politics in Chicago...and don't tell me they are helping republicans....

Gangs and Politicians in Chicago An Unholy Alliance Chicago magazine January 2012

Baskin isn’t a slick campaign strategist. He’s a former gang leader and, for several decades, a community activist who now operates a neighborhood center that aims to keep kids off the streets. Baskin has deep contacts inside the South Side’s complex network of politicians, community organizations, and street gangs. as he recalls, the inquiring candidates wanted to know: “Who do I need to be talking to so I can get the gangs on board?”


Baskin—who was himself a candidate in the 16th Ward aldermanic race, which he would lose—was happy to oblige. In all, he says, he helped broker meetings between roughly 30 politicians (ten sitting aldermen and 20 candidates for City Council) and at least six gang representatives. That claim is backed up by two other community activists, Harold Davis Jr. and Kublai K. M. Toure, who worked with Baskin to arrange the meetings, and a third participant, also a community activist, who requested anonymity. The gang representatives were former chiefs who had walked away from day-to-day thug life, but they were still respected on the streets and wielded enough influence to mobilize active gang members.


The first meeting, according to Baskin, occurred in early November 2010, right before the statewide general election; more gatherings followed in the run-up to the February 2011 municipal elections. The venues included office buildings, restaurants, and law offices. (By all accounts, similar meetings took place across the city before last year’s elections and in elections past, including after hours at the Garfield Center, a taxpayer-financed facility on the West Side that is used by the city’s Department of Family and Support Services.)


At some of the meetings, the politicians arrived with campaign materials and occasionally with aides. The sessions were organized much like corporate-style job fairs. The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”


This is also why you have rampant gun crime in chicago...not law abiding citizens owning guns.....

Thanks for sharing. Not really surprising in a state where like 3 governors have gone to jail? A republican in there I believe. From the article it doesn't sound so evil:
The former gang chiefs then peppered them with questions: What would they do about jobs? School safety? Police harassment? Help for ex-cons?

I don't see in the article where it's democrats only doing this.

What do you mean it doesn't sound so evil.......vicious street gangs who are responsible for the gun murder rate you keep complaining about are selecting candidates for alderman......this is why chicago has such a high murder rate, they have their minions in the Chicago City council vote against more police, use their influence to get light sentences for gun crimes, and then you say....yeah, but we need to make it harder for law abiding people to get guns...as if they are the problem....

The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”

It is statements like the one above..."...it doesn't sound so evil:" that make me take you less seriously brain....

Do you think the concerns of these gangs were better schools and lower taxes....?

The gang representatives were interested in electing aldermen sympathetic to their interests and those of their impoverished wards. As for the politicians, says Baskin, their interests essentially boiled down to getting elected or reelected. “All of [the political hopefuls] were aware of who they were meeting with,” he says. “They didn’t care. All they wanted to do was get the support.”

Baskin declined to name names, but Chicago has learned, through other sources at the meetings, the identities of some of the participants. They include: Aldermen Howard Brookins Jr. (21st Ward), Walter Burnett Jr. (27th), Willie Cochran (20th), and Freddrenna Lyle (6th). Alderman Pat Dowell (3rd) attended a meeting; upon realizing that the participants had close gang ties, she objected but stayed. Also attending were candidates who would go on to win their races, including Michael Chandler (24th) and Roderick Sawyer (6th). Darcel Beavers, the former 7th Ward alderman who would wind up losing her race, and Patricia Horton, a commissioner with the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District who lost her bid for city clerk, also met with the group.

only a lefty/statist would turn these vicious monsters into noble community activists...and you wonder why Chicago is a shooting gallery....?

Based on the examples of the questions asked they don't sound so evil.
The former gang chiefs then peppered them with questions: What would they do about jobs? School safety? Police harassment? Help for ex-cons?

School safety is evil to you?

Lots of politicians have gone to jail for being crooked from both parties.

I can't imagine gang support does much to get one elected.

Again brain....you are either really stupid or really naive........yes.....the gangs murdering children in these neighborhoods are vitally concerned about school safety...........just fucking unbelievable.......

That is what YOUR article says. If you don't believe your own article why did you post it? Point out the evil in your article or find one that has it.

Did you read the whole article brain......at all.....? You have lawyers who are relatives of these alderman just appearing at the arrest of violent gang members..........

 

[Brain357]

Thanks for sharing. Not really surprising in a state where like 3 governors have gone to jail? A republican in there I believe. From the article it doesn't sound so evil:
The former gang chiefs then peppered them with questions: What would they do about jobs? School safety? Police harassment? Help for ex-cons?

I don't see in the article where it's democrats only doing this.

What do you mean it doesn't sound so evil.......vicious street gangs who are responsible for the gun murder rate you keep complaining about are selecting candidates for alderman......this is why chicago has such a high murder rate, they have their minions in the Chicago City council vote against more police, use their influence to get light sentences for gun crimes, and then you say....yeah, but we need to make it harder for law abiding people to get guns...as if they are the problem....

The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”

It is statements like the one above..."...it doesn't sound so evil:" that make me take you less seriously brain....

Do you think the concerns of these gangs were better schools and lower taxes....?

The gang representatives were interested in electing aldermen sympathetic to their interests and those of their impoverished wards. As for the politicians, says Baskin, their interests essentially boiled down to getting elected or reelected. “All of [the political hopefuls] were aware of who they were meeting with,” he says. “They didn’t care. All they wanted to do was get the support.”

Baskin declined to name names, but Chicago has learned, through other sources at the meetings, the identities of some of the participants. They include: Aldermen Howard Brookins Jr. (21st Ward), Walter Burnett Jr. (27th), Willie Cochran (20th), and Freddrenna Lyle (6th). Alderman Pat Dowell (3rd) attended a meeting; upon realizing that the participants had close gang ties, she objected but stayed. Also attending were candidates who would go on to win their races, including Michael Chandler (24th) and Roderick Sawyer (6th). Darcel Beavers, the former 7th Ward alderman who would wind up losing her race, and Patricia Horton, a commissioner with the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District who lost her bid for city clerk, also met with the group.

only a lefty/statist would turn these vicious monsters into noble community activists...and you wonder why Chicago is a shooting gallery....?

Based on the examples of the questions asked they don't sound so evil.
The former gang chiefs then peppered them with questions: What would they do about jobs? School safety? Police harassment? Help for ex-cons?

School safety is evil to you?

Lots of politicians have gone to jail for being crooked from both parties.

I can't imagine gang support does much to get one elected.

Again brain....you are either really stupid or really naive........yes.....the gangs murdering children in these neighborhoods are vitally concerned about school safety...........just fucking unbelievable.......

That is what YOUR article says. If you don't believe your own article why did you post it? Point out the evil in your article or find one that has it.

Did you read the whole article brain......at all.....? You have lawyers who are relatives of these alderman just appearing at the arrest of violent gang members..........

I read through and was surprised by the questions.

If they are protecting gangs that is evil.