Netanyahu, the purveyor of hatred

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    An interesting article by Akiva Eldar

    His belief is that Natanyahu is deliberately stirring up the xenophobic behaviour we are seeing coming from Israel for fear that want of aggression from the Palestinians is likely to get the ordinary Israeli starting to think - hmm, well why not do something about ending the occupation, why not end the settlements.

    He believes that Netanyahu is deliberately courting hostility from abroad in order to allow ordinary Israelis to still feel victim.

    It is a very dangerous policy. The world will not stand by with the kind of racism in the post on Jerusalem I gave earlier and the world will not stand by with the kind of racism we have been seeing from the national religious.

    Interesting strategy though. Uri Avnery has been waiting for the young to wake up. Netanyahu it would appear is trying to make sure they do not. None of you unconditional pro Israelis are going to be able to hold your head anywhere soon.....

    but maybe not, some of you are as bad already

    Netanyahu, the purveyor of hatred - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
     
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    You support the murder of women and children, why should we care what you have to say?
     
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    Fucking A, if you are going to quote a leftist Israeli, will you at least cite a paper that's actually READ in Israel?! When will Americans understand that NO ONE READS HA'ARETZ?!

    baaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

    But Beebs isn't the 'purveyor of racism' - that's not fair at all. That article cited what citizens thought of protestors. What does that have to do with the price of falafel? :cuckoo: The pro-Pals do
    try to de-legitimatize Israel. Uh, duh? "Zionism is Racism"? "Stop the Colonizers!" Producing fake photos of IDF 'violence' against 'innocents'?
     
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    She and several other posters do not care about the truth, they simply hate Jews and support terrorists that murder women and children. You can not reason with them, you can provide facts since they either already know what they post is a lie or are to stupid to know it.

    I only respond to them in the hopes that those truly undecided have a chance to see what these tools are all about.
     
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    I guess I am a newbie.

    The thing is, I'm pretty sure the 'journalist' (aka celebrity tool on Arab tv) cited thinks that Israel is an apartheid state...so...of course he'd fling accusations of 'racism' at whomever the PM is.
     
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    I did click on his name before I posted CitizenPained

     
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    Please reference where I have ever supported the murder of women of children unlike yourself who will have no doubt killed more than I have ever met.
     
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    The ISM movement leaders have been linked with terrorist organizations. You support the ISM.

    That's bad enough.

    Also, please don't ridicule someone's service to their country.
     
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    Pathetic your little play ground abuse and empty words show one thing - you have no argument. Just slogans. Yep, I know where you come from. Just slogans. No thought, no answer. You cannot talk about what is needed for peace, because that is not what you want. I have a little time waiting on a friend, but gosh, my three year old grand daughter is more mature and honest.
     
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    I didn't say it in that way but I believe that is the natural outcome of policies and particular of the National Religious as we have seen in other threads. Uri Avnery also thinks this. Things can happen when people are asleep and it seems that your regular man and woman in Israel has possibly been sleeping believing that in time the settlements will come down and there will be a two State solution.

    Racism is definitely a part of what is going on in Israel at the moment among the Religious Nationalist. Net supports them. I do not believe he has any interest in a two state solution. We are always having Hamas's charter brought out but what about Likud which it was a response to A tale of two charters : Netanyahu's Likud party's charter refuses Palestinians a state | Alienated Left

    Lots of other things have come up from time to time as illustration that this man wants the lot ....and getting the lot involves some pretty despicable things which the world will not stand.

    What this particular article says is that Netanyahu is deliberately courting antagonism from the outside world, for instance Obama and his actions towards the flotilla, in order to receive a negative reception from the world, in order to use this to propagate a feeling in Ms ordinary Israeli that they are under unfair criticism from the world, in order that they will feel in danger in order that they will blindly follow him.

    September is drawing near and I hear pro Israelis talk on forums of unimaginable violence, annexing more lands and so on to make the Palestinians lives unimaginable horrific. I believe it is a step too far. I do not believe the world will stand up to it. Europe or Britain and France at least are likely to recognise the Palestinian state and following that I would imagine not just to do business with them but also to speak out.

    Of course Israel has one of the best militarises in the world. In this way all Net has to do is to get the population going along with him. Get them thinking they must all stand together because of the big bad world. No one is going to attack Israel but I think it is exceedingly likely she will be ostracised by the world and I am beginning to wonder if in the end most people will leave and she will just be those rabid national religious cult and the arab Jews trying to get home. (apparently Obama has also been suggesting talks about their right to return home. I believe talks on that would be a very good thing both in overcoming prejudice and in providing them a refuge should they decide to leave - nothing is static)

    There are as I said before 3 possible outcomes

    1. go back to 67 lines, create a decent solution for Jerusalem and two viable states.

    2. annex the west bank and Gaza and make Israel a State for all it's citizens

    3. The long hard line of isolation, emigration and eventually peace with the main people left being those who originally came from the area and possibly those zealous national religious cultists fighting it out with the AL Qaeda mob.
     
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