A settler mob, with municipal backing, rampages through Jerusalem

[alexa]

How long will the world stand by with this sort of behaviour I wonder.

I think it’s fair to say, Israelis have never heard at such a pitch—slogans such as “Butcher the Arabs” (itbach al-‘arab) and “Death to Leftists” and “The Land of Israel for the People of Israel” and “This is the Song of Revenge” and “Burn their Villages” and “Muhammad is Dead” (the latter with particular emphasis outside the mosque in Sheikh Jarrah and then again as the march entered the Muslim Quarter of the Old City). It’s one thing to hear such things occasionally from isolated pockets of extremists, or from settlers in the field in the South Hebron hills, quite another to hear them from the throats of tens of thousands of marchers whipping themselves into an ecstasy of hatred. The slogans call up rather specific memories: I couldn’t help wondering how many of the marchers were grandchildren of Jews who went through such moments—as targets of virulent hate—in Europe. Palestinian residents of Sheikh Jarrah and the Muslim Quarter of the Old City watched in horror, but there were no attempts to meet the hatred with violence.

For nearly twenty-fours hours the settler mob maintained a huge, raucous presence in the streets of East Jerusalem, taking particular delight in marching through the Muslim Quarter at 4a.m. Some of the marchers threw stones at Palestinian passers-by near the Damascus Gate. The police, who largely stood by while this was going on, arrested three activists from Sheikh Jarrah Solidarity and nine Palestinians protesting in Silwan, of whom seven were children, along with a few settlers.

So here you have one vision of the future of Jerusalem—and, sadly, it looks very much as if the current wave of racist hysteria is only gaining strength in Israel. Moreover, as is usually the case with modern nationalism, the political center and the more moderate right show no signs of attempting to hold back the tide. Indeed, a number of members of the government, which is in any case dominated by settler parties, regularly contribute to the inflammatory rhetoric. What’s left of the old Israeli left is fragmented, diminished, and politically ineffectual.

A settler mob, with municipal backing, rampages through Jerusalem | Jews for Justice for Palestinians

The article goes on to say how a growing number of Palestinians are understanding that Gandhi style protest is their best hope.

A Mediterranean variant of Gandhian-style mass protest has by now taken root among Palestinian communities in several parts of the West Bank: Ma’asara, Nabi Saleh, Dir Kadis, Na’alin, and Bil’in, to mention only a few. There is by now a clear awareness among many that non-violent resistance is far more likely to be effective against the Israeli occupation than violence; and these days the humane principles of Gandhi and Martin Luther King are frequently and clearly articulated in Arabic by grass-roots Palestinian leaders.

An eloquent statement of the philosophy and method was delivered on June 5 by Bassem al-Tamimi, one of the leaders of the Nabi Saleh protests, at his trial at an Israeli military court for organizing demonstrations. Al-Tamimi’s text will, I am sure, someday be taught in schools, maybe even in Israel; it is remarkably reminiscent of Mahatma Gandhi’s famous statement to a now forgotten British judge in Ahmedabad in 1922, when the judge sentenced him to jail for six years. [Published on JfJfP website, 07.06.11, Peaceful protester tried under military law ]

link for Bassem al-Tamimi's speech Maan News Agency: Non-violence activist addresses Israeli military court

 

[CitizenPained]

Let me get this straight:

Arab in Israel = a citizen.
Jew in Israel = a guest.

Right?

Because E'Jlem is home of the Jewish Quarter - the part that Israel took back and the Jews (unlike most 'oh we demand a right of return' Arabs) who had actual legal documents showing proof of ownership, were able to eventually move back into their old 'hood.

Jerusalem Day. It's a big deal. We got the Western Wall back. We'd lost much of Jewish J'lem in the 48 war. Yeah.

Haredim fuckers are mean and racist. They hate everyone who is not Haredi. Hell, they hate secular Jews the most! We know that. Racism is alive and well in Jerusalem (and it's not limited to just religious Jews).

But it doesn't make your 'jews for justice' (somehow I feel their actual Jewish membership is low) post any more legit.

Most of the marchers were young people, and probably a majority of them were settlers

Jerusalem has been Jerusalem for the last 40 years. It's part of Israel. The Arabs have Israeli citizenship, get free health care, government support, etc. They also get to vote in PA elections. Israel pays for all of J'lems needs (roads, police, fire, etc.).

Schluman is a world-renowned linguist and professor at Heeb U, but that doesn't make him a good journalist. He apparently thinks anyone in East J'lem is a settler. He probably opposed the city giving construction grants to Jews who had deeds from pre-48 to build on the property of their grandfathers.

I believe that all Israeli citizens, Arab or Jew, should be allowed proper and affordable housing in Jerusalem. But...that doesn't mean that Jewish-owned land (with actual deeds) is going to transfer to Arabs that want it.

The housing issue in Jlem is SUPER fucked up. But when Palestinians residents blow up shit or open fire on their Jewish employers and the PA refuses to renounce violence, um, yes, Jewish Israelis people become hesitant to rent to Arabs, hire Arabs, whatever.

It's rather unfortunate he used the word 'mob'. That word implies violence or crime.

It was a parade, just like every other year. Just like gay pride parades in Jerusalem or protests or whatever.

It probably doesn't help that Muslims in Jerusalem support the PA and think that Israel will eventually cease to exist.

 

[CitizenPained]

Here's the police [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P11LDP-OtOo&NR=1"]arresting and firing back at wingnuts with tear gas[/ame].

 

[P F Tinmore]

Let me get this straight:

Arab in Israel = a citizen.
Jew in Israel = a guest.

Right?

Because E'Jlem is home of the Jewish Quarter - the part that Israel took back and the Jews (unlike most 'oh we demand a right of return' Arabs) who had actual legal documents showing proof of ownership, were able to eventually move back into their old 'hood.

Jerusalem Day. It's a big deal. We got the Western Wall back. We'd lost much of Jewish J'lem in the 48 war. Yeah.

Haredim fuckers are mean and racist. They hate everyone who is not Haredi. Hell, they hate secular Jews the most! We know that. Racism is alive and well in Jerusalem (and it's not limited to just religious Jews).

But it doesn't make your 'jews for justice' (somehow I feel their actual Jewish membership is low) post any more legit.

Most of the marchers were young people, and probably a majority of them were settlers

Jerusalem has been Jerusalem for the last 40 years. It's part of Israel. The Arabs have Israeli citizenship, get free health care, government support, etc. They also get to vote in PA elections. Israel pays for all of J'lems needs (roads, police, fire, etc.).

Schluman is a world-renowned linguist and professor at Heeb U, but that doesn't make him a good journalist. He apparently thinks anyone in East J'lem is a settler. He probably opposed the city giving construction grants to Jews who had deeds from pre-48 to build on the property of their grandfathers.

I believe that all Israeli citizens, Arab or Jew, should be allowed proper and affordable housing in Jerusalem. But...that doesn't mean that Jewish-owned land (with actual deeds) is going to transfer to Arabs that want it.

The housing issue in Jlem is SUPER fucked up. But when Palestinians residents blow up shit or open fire on their Jewish employers and the PA refuses to renounce violence, um, yes, Jewish Israelis people become hesitant to rent to Arabs, hire Arabs, whatever.

It's rather unfortunate he used the word 'mob'. That word implies violence or crime.

It was a parade, just like every other year. Just like gay pride parades in Jerusalem or protests or whatever.

It probably doesn't help that Muslims in Jerusalem support the PA and think that Israel will eventually cease to exist.

Because E'Jlem is home of the Jewish Quarter - the part that Israel took back and the Jews (unlike most 'oh we demand a right of return' Arabs) who had actual legal documents showing proof of ownership, were able to eventually move back into their old 'hood.

Not only did the Zionists screw lot of Palestinians, they screwed lot of Jews. Their war with the Palestinians caused a lot of Jews to lose their homes.

The UN and Jordan put Palestinians who lost their homes in these homes. If the Jews can get these homes back why can't these Palestinians get their homes back?

Problem solved.

 

[CitizenPained]

Fuck off. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was an anti-Semitic Nazi...the massacres and violence against Jews in J'lem is NOT to be blamed on the Jews themselves.

You are disgusting.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Fuck off. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was an anti-Semitic Nazi...the massacres and violence against Jews in J'lem is NOT to be blamed on the Jews themselves.

You are disgusting.

The Grand Mufti was appointed by the British.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Between the Zionist crooks and the British crooks everyone got screwed.

 

[High_Gravity]

How long will the world stand by with this sort of behaviour I wonder.

I think it’s fair to say, Israelis have never heard at such a pitch—slogans such as “Butcher the Arabs” (itbach al-‘arab) and “Death to Leftists” and “The Land of Israel for the People of Israel” and “This is the Song of Revenge” and “Burn their Villages” and “Muhammad is Dead” (the latter with particular emphasis outside the mosque in Sheikh Jarrah and then again as the march entered the Muslim Quarter of the Old City). It’s one thing to hear such things occasionally from isolated pockets of extremists, or from settlers in the field in the South Hebron hills, quite another to hear them from the throats of tens of thousands of marchers whipping themselves into an ecstasy of hatred. The slogans call up rather specific memories: I couldn’t help wondering how many of the marchers were grandchildren of Jews who went through such moments—as targets of virulent hate—in Europe. Palestinian residents of Sheikh Jarrah and the Muslim Quarter of the Old City watched in horror, but there were no attempts to meet the hatred with violence.

For nearly twenty-fours hours the settler mob maintained a huge, raucous presence in the streets of East Jerusalem, taking particular delight in marching through the Muslim Quarter at 4a.m. Some of the marchers threw stones at Palestinian passers-by near the Damascus Gate. The police, who largely stood by while this was going on, arrested three activists from Sheikh Jarrah Solidarity and nine Palestinians protesting in Silwan, of whom seven were children, along with a few settlers.

So here you have one vision of the future of Jerusalem—and, sadly, it looks very much as if the current wave of racist hysteria is only gaining strength in Israel. Moreover, as is usually the case with modern nationalism, the political center and the more moderate right show no signs of attempting to hold back the tide. Indeed, a number of members of the government, which is in any case dominated by settler parties, regularly contribute to the inflammatory rhetoric. What’s left of the old Israeli left is fragmented, diminished, and politically ineffectual.

A settler mob, with municipal backing, rampages through Jerusalem | Jews for Justice for Palestinians

The article goes on to say how a growing number of Palestinians are understanding that Gandhi style protest is their best hope.

A Mediterranean variant of Gandhian-style mass protest has by now taken root among Palestinian communities in several parts of the West Bank: Ma’asara, Nabi Saleh, Dir Kadis, Na’alin, and Bil’in, to mention only a few. There is by now a clear awareness among many that non-violent resistance is far more likely to be effective against the Israeli occupation than violence; and these days the humane principles of Gandhi and Martin Luther King are frequently and clearly articulated in Arabic by grass-roots Palestinian leaders.

An eloquent statement of the philosophy and method was delivered on June 5 by Bassem al-Tamimi, one of the leaders of the Nabi Saleh protests, at his trial at an Israeli military court for organizing demonstrations. Al-Tamimi’s text will, I am sure, someday be taught in schools, maybe even in Israel; it is remarkably reminiscent of Mahatma Gandhi’s famous statement to a now forgotten British judge in Ahmedabad in 1922, when the judge sentenced him to jail for six years. [Published on JfJfP website, 07.06.11, Peaceful protester tried under military law ]

link for Bassem al-Tamimi's speech Maan News Agency: Non-violence activist addresses Israeli military court

Behavior? the Palestinians mob up like this all the time and I never hear a word of it from you.

 

[CitizenPained]

The first Grand Mufti forbade sales to Jews, the second worked with them, and the third wanted to kill them all and collaborated with Nazis.

Don't blame that on the Jews.

 

[CitizenPained]

JLem day is like the American 4th. It's not a mob. It's a huge party. There were groups of religious right wingers who protested in the now Arab/ former Jewish neighborhoods...and many were arrested. The police guarded the Arab residents.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How long will the world stand by with this sort of behaviour I wonder.

I think it’s fair to say, Israelis have never heard at such a pitch—slogans such as “Butcher the Arabs” (itbach al-‘arab) and “Death to Leftists” and “The Land of Israel for the People of Israel” and “This is the Song of Revenge” and “Burn their Villages” and “Muhammad is Dead” (the latter with particular emphasis outside the mosque in Sheikh Jarrah and then again as the march entered the Muslim Quarter of the Old City). It’s one thing to hear such things occasionally from isolated pockets of extremists, or from settlers in the field in the South Hebron hills, quite another to hear them from the throats of tens of thousands of marchers whipping themselves into an ecstasy of hatred. The slogans call up rather specific memories: I couldn’t help wondering how many of the marchers were grandchildren of Jews who went through such moments—as targets of virulent hate—in Europe. Palestinian residents of Sheikh Jarrah and the Muslim Quarter of the Old City watched in horror, but there were no attempts to meet the hatred with violence.

For nearly twenty-fours hours the settler mob maintained a huge, raucous presence in the streets of East Jerusalem, taking particular delight in marching through the Muslim Quarter at 4a.m. Some of the marchers threw stones at Palestinian passers-by near the Damascus Gate. The police, who largely stood by while this was going on, arrested three activists from Sheikh Jarrah Solidarity and nine Palestinians protesting in Silwan, of whom seven were children, along with a few settlers.

So here you have one vision of the future of Jerusalem—and, sadly, it looks very much as if the current wave of racist hysteria is only gaining strength in Israel. Moreover, as is usually the case with modern nationalism, the political center and the more moderate right show no signs of attempting to hold back the tide. Indeed, a number of members of the government, which is in any case dominated by settler parties, regularly contribute to the inflammatory rhetoric. What’s left of the old Israeli left is fragmented, diminished, and politically ineffectual.

A settler mob, with municipal backing, rampages through Jerusalem | Jews for Justice for Palestinians

The article goes on to say how a growing number of Palestinians are understanding that Gandhi style protest is their best hope.

A Mediterranean variant of Gandhian-style mass protest has by now taken root among Palestinian communities in several parts of the West Bank: Ma’asara, Nabi Saleh, Dir Kadis, Na’alin, and Bil’in, to mention only a few. There is by now a clear awareness among many that non-violent resistance is far more likely to be effective against the Israeli occupation than violence; and these days the humane principles of Gandhi and Martin Luther King are frequently and clearly articulated in Arabic by grass-roots Palestinian leaders.

An eloquent statement of the philosophy and method was delivered on June 5 by Bassem al-Tamimi, one of the leaders of the Nabi Saleh protests, at his trial at an Israeli military court for organizing demonstrations. Al-Tamimi’s text will, I am sure, someday be taught in schools, maybe even in Israel; it is remarkably reminiscent of Mahatma Gandhi’s famous statement to a now forgotten British judge in Ahmedabad in 1922, when the judge sentenced him to jail for six years. [Published on JfJfP website, 07.06.11, Peaceful protester tried under military law ]

link for Bassem al-Tamimi's speech Maan News Agency: Non-violence activist addresses Israeli military court

Your title says "mob....rampages...."

Your link says "Most of the marchers...."


Perhaps you were mistaking the situation for Syria?

Iran?

Or "French rioters rampage; protesters block airports..."


Easy to mistake the two (the several....)

 

[P F Tinmore]

The first Grand Mufti forbade sales to Jews, the second worked with them, and the third wanted to kill them all and collaborated with Nazis.

Don't blame that on the Jews.

WOW, who voted for these guys?

 

[P F Tinmore]

According to the League of Nations charter, the primary purpose of a mandate is to assist in creating independent states according to the wishes of the native population.

The Palestinians wanted a secular, democratic state with equal right for all.

What were Britain's policies and procedures to fulfill this primary function of its mandate?

 

[CitizenPained]

According to the League of Nations charter, the primary purpose of a mandate is to assist in creating independent states according to the wishes of the native population.

The Palestinians wanted a secular, democratic state with equal right for all.

False.

 

[High_Gravity]

According to the League of Nations charter, the primary purpose of a mandate is to assist in creating independent states according to the wishes of the native population.

The Palestinians wanted a secular, democratic state with equal right for all.

What were Britain's policies and procedures to fulfill this primary function of its mandate?

You are joking right?

 

[CitizenPained]

No. He's just that stupid.