Neal Boortz, Herman Cain, Taxation, And The Stockholm Syndrome

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  1. The T
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    Self explanitory...

    Watch as the Talkmaster explains the reason so many reject calls to reform the present tax code, and reject Herman Cain's 9 9 9 plan...The plantation is calling you...:eusa_whistle:
     
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    In truth, while I like Herman Cain very much and think he will eventually be open to revision of his own plan if he should be the nominee and/or the next President, gut level I see too many complications and problems with it to feel really enthusiastic about it. But I sure as hell don't suffer from the Stockholm syndrome.

    I still look at a simple flat tax across the board paid by everybody--individuals, all business and corporate profits, families, everybody--as the only true simplification of the tax code. Yes it means that that bottom 50% currently paying little or no federal income tax will have to pay something, but they should. Nobody should have the right to vote money from the public treasury that won't affect them too.

    And that flat tax should be accompanied by an iron clad law or preferably a constitutional amendment that Congress has to limit spending to the amount of revenues except in extreme national emergency.

    I think Mr. Cain is on the right track but has not yet hit on the solution that we need.
     
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    Could very well be...but the plan is bold and a bridge to the FAIR TAX...(Which involves abolishing the 16th Amendment, and deservedly so...otherwise couldn't be implimented)...I digress...

    Comment on the 'Stockholm Syndrome' analogy?

    Have we become so ensconced in the present tax code...held captive for so long and the brand of slavery it has foisted upon us, that we cannot find it within ourselves to free ourselves from it by rejecting it?

    OR have we indeed as Mr. Boortz suggests, and have made friends with our captors?
     
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    Oh I definitely believe the political class, i.e. the statists/political left, are absolutely enslaved by the Stockholm syndrome. Punishing success, rewarding underachievers, and increasing the power and role of government is the name of the game and the captors have convinced most of them that the existing tax code in principle is the way that is best accomplished.

    Having said that, Herman Cain is willing to radically change the tax code, but we would still have an income tax--no abolishment of the 16th Amendment there--PLUS a brand new federal sales tax that I have not yet been convinced is not a dangerous VAT.

    Nevertheless, rejection of the worst components of a system does not always involved throwing out all concepts and starting over with something entirely different. I am simply not a supporter of the so-called 'fair tax' or VAT as I don't know of a single case in which that has not be escalated and/or abused over time and there is absolutely no reason that a national sales tax would not go the same way as it has in local communities and states.

    So that brings us back to a truly flat tax with much less room for tweaking by our elected officials. I simply see no fairer or simpler or more reasonable way to fund the necessary functions of government.

    I am willing to be convinced if somebody has a better idea though.
     
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    I appreciate the reply.
     
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    Has a house slave actually left the "plantation?"
     
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    Taking things out of context as usual. No surprise coming from you Edith.
     
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    So tell me, what was the context of your "plantation" comment?
     
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    Figure it out...Statist.
     
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    Then obviously I had the correct context all along.
    Thank you.
     

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