Nazi Sources Prove the Nazis Were Socialists

[Camp]

The US had to implement a lot of socialist policies during WWII, like a planned economy and making factories only produce certain things and so on.

I'm not criticizing though, that was the only way to win the war.

I disagree. It was done for political reasons, because the public wouldn't stand for the tax increases required if they knew the true cost of the war. War socialism allowed the politicians to hide the true cost from the taxpayers.

Ya, how would the generation that had just fought WWI have any clue about rhe cost of war?

 

[bripat9643]

The US had to implement a lot of socialist policies during WWII, like a planned economy and making factories only produce certain things and so on.

I'm not criticizing though, that was the only way to win the war.

I disagree. It was done for political reasons, because the public wouldn't stand for the tax increases required if they knew the true cost of the war. War socialism allowed the politicians to hide the true cost from the taxpayers.

So you would have preferred that the Axis Powers win the war?

Facts have no bearing on what outcome for the war I preferred.

 

[bripat9643]

The US had to implement a lot of socialist policies during WWII, like a planned economy and making factories only produce certain things and so on.

I'm not criticizing though, that was the only way to win the war.

I disagree. It was done for political reasons, because the public wouldn't stand for the tax increases required if they knew the true cost of the war. War socialism allowed the politicians to hide the true cost from the taxpayers.

Ya, how would the generation that had just fought WWI have any clue about rhe cost of war?

The cost of the war would have been obvious from the taxes the government imposed to pay for it. Under war socialism these taxes were hidden by means of inflation, price controls, rationing, etc.

 

[bripat9643]

The US had to implement a lot of socialist policies during WWII, like a planned economy and making factories only produce certain things and so on.

I'm not criticizing though, that was the only way to win the war.

Socialist programs were adopted and implemented long before WWII began.

They went into overdrive during the war since everyone believed the government could do whatever it wanted to.

 

[regent]

The US had to implement a lot of socialist policies during WWII, like a planned economy and making factories only produce certain things and so on.

I'm not criticizing though, that was the only way to win the war.

Socialist programs were adopted and implemented long before WWII began.

They went into overdrive during the war since everyone believed the government could do whatever it wanted to.

The nation and people went into overdrive to win the war.

 

[bripat9643]

The US had to implement a lot of socialist policies during WWII, like a planned economy and making factories only produce certain things and so on.

I'm not criticizing though, that was the only way to win the war.

Socialist programs were adopted and implemented long before WWII began.

They went into overdrive during the war since everyone believed the government could do whatever it wanted to.

The nation and people went into overdrive to win the war.

The government went into overdrive in controlling the economy. It only hurt production by doing that.

 

[Oddball]

The government went into overdrive in controlling the economy. It only hurt production by doing that.

F.A. Hayek wrote extensively about this, in his magnum opus The Road to Serfdom...

The Road to Serfdom | Friedrich A. Hayek

 

[K9Buck]

Liberals like to say that Hitler wasn't a socialist because (according to them), he didn't actually practice socialism. Then, they claim that Hitler was indeed a Christian because Hitler claimed to be a Christian, in spite of obviously NOT practicing Christianity.

Let's get another thing straight. The concept of fascism and its practice is a left-wing construct. Fascism entails government control of business, education, healthcare and eliminates free-market capitalism. All of that is the polar opposite of what the right preaches and practices. So how the fuck is fascism "right wing"?

On another note, there are countless liberals that have called Trump a "Nazi" or a "fascist" when, in reality, Trump is the biggest fucking capitalist to EVER occupy the White House. And no American president has been better to Israel than Donald Trump and it's not close.

Anyone who says that Nazism or fascism is "right wing" is either colossally STUPID or they're just a liar.

 

[Oddball]

 

[regent]

Liberals like to say that Hitler wasn't a socialist because (according to them), he didn't actually practice socialism. Then, they claim that Hitler was indeed a Christian because Hitler claimed to be a Christian, in spite of obviously NOT practicing Christianity.

Let's get another thing straight. The concept of fascism and its practice is a left-wing construct. Fascism entails government control of business, education, healthcare and eliminates free-market capitalism. All of that is the polar opposite of what the right preaches and practices. So how the fuck is fascism "right wing"?

On another note, there are countless liberals that have called Trump a "Nazi" or a "fascist" when, in reality, Trump is the biggest fucking capitalist to EVER occupy the White House. And no American president has been better to Israel than Donald Trump and it's not close.
I think the most socialist program was, and is, the military. The government houses its members, feeds them, clothes them, takes care of their medical needs and ends up paying them.
Anyone who says that Nazism or fascism is "right wing" is either colossally STUPID or they're just a liar.

 

[regent]

Liberals like to say that Hitler wasn't a socialist because (according to them), he didn't actually practice socialism. Then, they claim that Hitler was indeed a Christian because Hitler claimed to be a Christian, in spite of obviously NOT practicing Christianity.

Let's get another thing straight. The concept of fascism and its practice is a left-wing construct. Fascism entails government control of business, education, healthcare and eliminates free-market capitalism. All of that is the polar opposite of what the right preaches and practices. So how the fuck is fascism "right wing"?

On another note, there are countless liberals that have called Trump a "Nazi" or a "fascist" when, in reality, Trump is the biggest fucking capitalist to EVER occupy the White House. And no American president has been better to Israel than Donald Trump and it's not close.
Anyone who says that Nazism or fascism is "right wing" is either colossally STUPID or they're just a liar.

It seems that those poly sci-guys that write the manuals on ideologies have labeled fascism right wing since Hitler and Mussolini,

 

[K9Buck]

Liberals like to say that Hitler wasn't a socialist because (according to them), he didn't actually practice socialism. Then, they claim that Hitler was indeed a Christian because Hitler claimed to be a Christian, in spite of obviously NOT practicing Christianity.

Let's get another thing straight. The concept of fascism and its practice is a left-wing construct. Fascism entails government control of business, education, healthcare and eliminates free-market capitalism. All of that is the polar opposite of what the right preaches and practices. So how the fuck is fascism "right wing"?

On another note, there are countless liberals that have called Trump a "Nazi" or a "fascist" when, in reality, Trump is the biggest fucking capitalist to EVER occupy the White House. And no American president has been better to Israel than Donald Trump and it's not close.
Anyone who says that Nazism or fascism is "right wing" is either colossally STUPID or they're just a liar.

It seems that those poly sci-guys that write the manuals on ideologies have labeled fascism right wing since Hitler and Mussolini,

Please define "right wing" and then tell me how fascism falls on the "right".

 

[jasonnfree]

Liberals like to say that Hitler wasn't a socialist because (according to them), he didn't actually practice socialism. Then, they claim that Hitler was indeed a Christian because Hitler claimed to be a Christian, in spite of obviously NOT practicing Christianity.

Let's get another thing straight. The concept of fascism and its practice is a left-wing construct. Fascism entails government control of business, education, healthcare and eliminates free-market capitalism. All of that is the polar opposite of what the right preaches and practices. So how the fuck is fascism "right wing"?

On another note, there are countless liberals that have called Trump a "Nazi" or a "fascist" when, in reality, Trump is the biggest fucking capitalist to EVER occupy the White House. And no American president has been better to Israel than Donald Trump and it's not close.
Anyone who says that Nazism or fascism is "right wing" is either colossally STUPID or they're just a liar.

It seems that those poly sci-guys that write the manuals on ideologies have labeled fascism right wing since Hitler and Mussolini,

Please define "right wing" and then tell me how fascism falls on the "right".

This article in Snopes gives their opinion on fascism, and consider the nazis to have been more on the right, notwithstanding the name socialism they adopted.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

 

[Oddball]

 

[K9Buck]

This article in Snopes gives their opinion on fascism, and consider the nazis to have been more on the right, notwithstanding the name socialism they adopted.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

The left always wants to re-write history to disassociate themselves from their ideological predecessors. Snopes is full of shit and so is anyone else that says that fascism is a product of the right. I started a thread on the topic, which you can read here if interested.

CDZ - What are the tenets of fascism?

 

[jasonnfree]

This article in Snopes gives their opinion on fascism, and consider the nazis to have been more on the right, notwithstanding the name socialism they adopted.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

The left always wants to re-write history to disassociate themselves from their ideological predecessors. Snopes is full of shit and so is anyone else that says that fascism is a product of the right. I started a thread on the topic, which you can read here if interested.

CDZ - What are the tenets of fascism?

You start off with 'the left always does this or that........' I don't like these absolutes. It's a statement right from the beginning that the other side is lock step with an agenda and will not deviate no matter what facts are put in front of them, so what's the use of wanting a debate I always say. Other than that, I left a link of snope's, but you say they're full of shit, I guess since they disagree with you? Anyway, I kind of agree with some of what they say because the nazis were racists to the core, much like the right wing is becoming under trump. He could not have won without the mexicans are coming, the mexicans are coming. You can disagree if you want, that's what it's all about here.

 

[K9Buck]

This article in Snopes gives their opinion on fascism, and consider the nazis to have been more on the right, notwithstanding the name socialism they adopted.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

The left always wants to re-write history to disassociate themselves from their ideological predecessors. Snopes is full of shit and so is anyone else that says that fascism is a product of the right. I started a thread on the topic, which you can read here if interested.

CDZ - What are the tenets of fascism?

You start off with 'the left always does this or that........' I don't like these absolutes. It's a statement right from the beginning that the other side is lock step with an agenda and will not deviate no matter what facts are put in front of them, so what's the use of wanting a debate I always say. Other than that, I left a link of snope's, but you say they're full of shit, I guess since they disagree with you? Anyway, I kind of agree with some of what they say because the nazis were racists to the core, much like the right wing is becoming under trump. He could not have won without the mexicans are coming, the mexicans are coming. You can disagree if you want, that's what it's all about here.

I encourage you to visit the thread I started. I detail why fascism is a left-wing ideology.

 

[Oddball]

Fascism (national socialism), as personified by Hitler and Mussolini: Centrally planned economies, military dictatorship, a one-party state, deification of the ruler, social stratification via political affiliation, brutal police state, propaganda press, concentration/slave labor camps for dissenters and other undesirables.

Communism, as personified by Staln, Mao, Castro: Centrally planned economies, military dictatorship, a one-party state, deification of the ruler, social stratification via political affiliation, brutal police state, propaganda press, concentration/slave labor camps for dissenters and other undesirables.

Yeah, they're totally different!

 

[Mike Dwight]

Ya! Hitler was a workin' man's man who got pissed he didn't die in World War One so he wanted a second one, he'll call it World War Two. And the book know it alls can just burn with their fancy books. That's where George Wallace doesn't get to be some Nazi hate-monger , we need to go to right-good manorialistic men descended Divinely from George Washington, like Robert E Lee, and American Gentry. paternalism.

I think this thing went for 14 pages with no one identifying NAZI as a German acronym of National Socialist Party or something like that, so YA, Socialist. So ya, everybody get in the big parade and get a torch and "Howl with the Wolves".

 

[regent]

I WOULD SUGGEST TO READERS THEY GO TO A COLLEGE BOOK STORE AND BUY A BOOKLET ON POLITICAL IDEOLOGIES AND READ ON THE VARIOUS IDEOLOGIES INCLUDING FASCISM.