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Joe was about 7th on the Notre Dame QB depth chart until Devine got around to starting him.
You compare ND football to Ohio State since 1964 - Ara P first year - not close.
BCS -ND lost to Oregon State, Ohio state -------- BCS is garbage anyway
since 1964
ND
9-1 in 1964 (got screwed at USC)
9-0-1 in 1966 (NC)
10-1 in 1970 finished #2(beat #1 Texas in Cotton Bowl)
12-0 in 1973 - NC
11-1 in 1977 - NC (destroyed #1 Texas 38-10)
12-0 in 1988 NC
11-1 in 1989 finished #2
12-1 in 1993 finished #2 despite whupping Floridqa State
Ohio st since 1964:
Beat USC in 1969 Rose Bowl - legit NC
got whupped in Rose Bowls except for a few occassions
got a mariginal NC in 2001 agsainst Miami
Beat Oregon in the 2010 Rose Bowl (THANKS)
And yes - Ohio State did defeat ND 3 times in 1995, 1996 and 2006. But the first 2 were some of Ohio states best-ever teams.
Really no comparioson between ND and Ohio State in the big picture.
What was Ohio Sts other NC in the past 18 years besides in 2001?