NASA admits they can't send a human to Mars

[mamooth]

Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it, and they won't be close in the foreseeable future. While they say it's all about money, it's far more than money. They just don't have the tech.

NASA finally admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

It doesn't help that they'll miss the best launch window. There are two 'launch window cycles' at play. There's the more important window, which comes every 2.2 years, when Earth is close to "catching up" with Mars. Every Mars launch happens in that window. And there's a less strong 16-year cycle, based on the eccentricity of each planet's orbit. That reaches a minimum in 2018. We'll miss that window, then it won't get that good again until the 2030's. It's maybe a 20% difference in flight time, but if you're trying to have your people not die from radiation, minimizing trip time is vital.

So, realistically, nothing until the 2030s, at the earliest. Maybe Chang-Díaz will have his VASIMR plasma drive working by then, which would help considerably. If it works, it would have much more power than the present Hall thruster plasma drives, and get twice the "gas mileage".

NASA’s longshot bet on a revolutionary rocket may be about to pay off

And another thing, it's been found the Martian soil is so toxic, it will kill all bacteria. Any bacterial life on Mars will have to be buried deep. The new European robot probe will bring a 2-meter drill.

Mars covered in toxic chemicals that can wipe out living organisms, tests reveal

 

[BlackFlag]

That sucks. I still hope to see it in my lifetime. The world could use another space race.

I hear they're working on nuclear powered rockets again? I don't know why the stopped. Conventional energy is good for getting us to the moon, but no more I think. Time for something new.

 

[mudwhistle]

Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it, and they won't be close in the foreseeable future. While they say it's all about money, it's far more than money. They just don't have the tech.

NASA finally admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

It doesn't help that they'll miss the best launch window. There a two 'launch window cycles' at play. There's the more important window, which comes every 2.2 years, when Earth is close to "catching up" with Mars. Every Mars launch happens in that window. And there's a less strong 16-year cycle, based on the eccentricity of each planet's orbit. That reaches a minimum in 2018. We'll miss that window, then it won't get that good again until the 2030's. It's maybe a 20% difference in flight time, but if you're trying to have your people not die from radiation, minimizing trip time is vital.

So, realistically, nothing until the 2030s, at the earliest. Maybe Chang-Díaz will have his VASIMR plasma drive working by then, which would help considerably. If it works, it would have much more power than the present Hall thruster plasma drives, and get twice the "gas mileage".

NASA’s longshot bet on a revolutionary rocket may be about to pay off

And another thing, it's been found the Martian soil is so toxic, it will kill all bacteria. Any bacterial life on Mars will have to be buried deep. The new European robot probe will bring a 2-meter drill.

Mars covered in toxic chemicals that can wipe out living organisms, tests reveal

Yup.....NASA has been taken over by Democrats.
They can't do anything productive.
All they can do is screw everything up.
8 years of Obama has turned NASA from a "Can Do Anything" organization to a "Can't Do Shit" club.

 

[Syriusly]

Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it, and they won't be close in the foreseeable future. While they say it's all about money, it's far more than money. They just don't have the tech.

NASA finally admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

Hmmm NASA admitted they can't send a human to Mars with the current label of funding. Your article mentions technical challenges, but NASA isn't saying it can't be done- just that they don't have the funding.

I can't put a date on humans on Mars, and the reason really is the other piece is, at the budget levels we described, this roughly 2 percent increase, we don’t have the surface systems available for Mars," said NASA's William H. Gerstenmaier, responding to a question about when NASA will send humans to the surface of Mars. "And that entry, descent and landing is a huge challenge for us for Mars."

Of course Mars is a huge challenge- with lots of tech issues to still be resolved.

 

[Syriusly]

Not surprised that the usual partisan assholes don't care about the subject of the thread- just about attacking those they disagree with.

 

[mudwhistle]

Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it, and they won't be close in the foreseeable future. While they say it's all about money, it's far more than money. They just don't have the tech.

NASA finally admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

Hmmm NASA admitted they can't send a human to Mars with the current label of funding. Your article mentions technical challenges, but NASA isn't saying it can't be done- just that they don't have the funding.

I can't put a date on humans on Mars, and the reason really is the other piece is, at the budget levels we described, this roughly 2 percent increase, we don’t have the surface systems available for Mars," said NASA's William H. Gerstenmaier, responding to a question about when NASA will send humans to the surface of Mars. "And that entry, descent and landing is a huge challenge for us for Mars."

Of course Mars is a huge challenge- with lots of tech issues to still be resolved.

Must be a political appointee.
They can't resist begging for more money.

Next they'll say that the GOP cut funding.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Bezos will send first human sacrifices to Mars.

 

[Mac1958]

That's okay, I'm patient.

These people are amazing. They'll get there.
.

 

[miketx]

Not surprised that the usual partisan assholes don't care about the subject of the thread- just about attacking those they disagree with.

you should have seen all the democrats that worked at the prison. these losers could not even get to work on time! couldn't fill out paperwork, couldn't keep track of con movements, nothing.

 

[miketx]

Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it, and they won't be close in the foreseeable future. While they say it's all about money, it's far more than money. They just don't have the tech.

NASA finally admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

It doesn't help that they'll miss the best launch window. There a two 'launch window cycles' at play. There's the more important window, which comes every 2.2 years, when Earth is close to "catching up" with Mars. Every Mars launch happens in that window. And there's a less strong 16-year cycle, based on the eccentricity of each planet's orbit. That reaches a minimum in 2018. We'll miss that window, then it won't get that good again until the 2030's. It's maybe a 20% difference in flight time, but if you're trying to have your people not die from radiation, minimizing trip time is vital.

So, realistically, nothing until the 2030s, at the earliest. Maybe Chang-Díaz will have his VASIMR plasma drive working by then, which would help considerably. If it works, it would have much more power than the present Hall thruster plasma drives, and get twice the "gas mileage".

NASA’s longshot bet on a revolutionary rocket may be about to pay off

And another thing, it's been found the Martian soil is so toxic, it will kill all bacteria. Any bacterial life on Mars will have to be buried deep. The new European robot probe will bring a 2-meter drill.

Mars covered in toxic chemicals that can wipe out living organisms, tests reveal

Nasa already has ships that can get to mars in 3 days.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it, and they won't be close in the foreseeable future. While they say it's all about money, it's far more than money. They just don't have the tech.

NASA finally admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

It doesn't help that they'll miss the best launch window. There a two 'launch window cycles' at play. There's the more important window, which comes every 2.2 years, when Earth is close to "catching up" with Mars. Every Mars launch happens in that window. And there's a less strong 16-year cycle, based on the eccentricity of each planet's orbit. That reaches a minimum in 2018. We'll miss that window, then it won't get that good again until the 2030's. It's maybe a 20% difference in flight time, but if you're trying to have your people not die from radiation, minimizing trip time is vital.

So, realistically, nothing until the 2030s, at the earliest. Maybe Chang-Díaz will have his VASIMR plasma drive working by then, which would help considerably. If it works, it would have much more power than the present Hall thruster plasma drives, and get twice the "gas mileage".

NASA’s longshot bet on a revolutionary rocket may be about to pay off

And another thing, it's been found the Martian soil is so toxic, it will kill all bacteria. Any bacterial life on Mars will have to be buried deep. The new European robot probe will bring a 2-meter drill.

Mars covered in toxic chemicals that can wipe out living organisms, tests reveal

Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it,

well that was to be expected

when several years ago the democrats changed the aim of NASA

from space to chasing man made global warming

 

[Votto]

Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it, and they won't be close in the foreseeable future. While they say it's all about money, it's far more than money. They just don't have the tech.

NASA finally admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

It doesn't help that they'll miss the best launch window. There a two 'launch window cycles' at play. There's the more important window, which comes every 2.2 years, when Earth is close to "catching up" with Mars. Every Mars launch happens in that window. And there's a less strong 16-year cycle, based on the eccentricity of each planet's orbit. That reaches a minimum in 2018. We'll miss that window, then it won't get that good again until the 2030's. It's maybe a 20% difference in flight time, but if you're trying to have your people not die from radiation, minimizing trip time is vital.

So, realistically, nothing until the 2030s, at the earliest. Maybe Chang-Díaz will have his VASIMR plasma drive working by then, which would help considerably. If it works, it would have much more power than the present Hall thruster plasma drives, and get twice the "gas mileage".

NASA’s longshot bet on a revolutionary rocket may be about to pay off

And another thing, it's been found the Martian soil is so toxic, it will kill all bacteria. Any bacterial life on Mars will have to be buried deep. The new European robot probe will bring a 2-meter drill.

Mars covered in toxic chemicals that can wipe out living organisms, tests reveal

If it meant beating the Russians to Mars back in the 1960's they could have done it.

Or if it meant bringing into existence a one world order for Progs today so long as they reach Mars first they would find a way to do it.

The problem is, there simply is not the will power to do it.

 

[SavannahMann]

One of the private organizations I read from time to time is the Mars Society.

The Mars Society

They have a lot of thinkers involved, and they've come up with solutions, but there is a glaring problem. First, most of their solutions are multiple missions to land supplies and materials on Mars before the Humans go. The risk of something being damaged this way is huge. But it answers one of the big questions, how the hell do we do it?

I saw a documentary on the NASA Mars program. That was just nuts. The idea that you could or would send four astronauts in a single capsule about twice as large as the Apollo capsule is just insane when the journey would take months for the round trip. I don't care how awesome the people were, four people living in a minivan and unable to leave would go insane before they got to Mars. Also the problem of physical fitness. Even with exercise on the ISS the Astroauts have difficulty moving for several days upon their return to earth. The same would be true for a two or three month journey to Mars. The Astronauts would get there, and be unable to move around enough for a couple weeks, to even try surface operations.

This could be solved with a centripetal force form of gravity on the ship heading to Mars, but that means more money, design work, testing, and assembling in orbit a huge vessel. This was done in the book "The Martian" and one can only guess at the expense the real world effort would have.

In other words, it just ain't gonna happen to make some Geologists giddy for the chance at some rocks from Mars.

 

[Syriusly]

Not surprised that the usual partisan assholes don't care about the subject of the thread- just about attacking those they disagree with.

you should have seen all the democrats that worked at the prison. these losers could not even get to work on time! couldn't fill out paperwork, couldn't keep track of con movements, nothing.

LOL- I am not surprised you have spent most of your life at the prison.

 

[Montrovant]

Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it, and they won't be close in the foreseeable future. While they say it's all about money, it's far more than money. They just don't have the tech.

NASA finally admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

It doesn't help that they'll miss the best launch window. There a two 'launch window cycles' at play. There's the more important window, which comes every 2.2 years, when Earth is close to "catching up" with Mars. Every Mars launch happens in that window. And there's a less strong 16-year cycle, based on the eccentricity of each planet's orbit. That reaches a minimum in 2018. We'll miss that window, then it won't get that good again until the 2030's. It's maybe a 20% difference in flight time, but if you're trying to have your people not die from radiation, minimizing trip time is vital.

So, realistically, nothing until the 2030s, at the earliest. Maybe Chang-Díaz will have his VASIMR plasma drive working by then, which would help considerably. If it works, it would have much more power than the present Hall thruster plasma drives, and get twice the "gas mileage".

NASA’s longshot bet on a revolutionary rocket may be about to pay off

And another thing, it's been found the Martian soil is so toxic, it will kill all bacteria. Any bacterial life on Mars will have to be buried deep. The new European robot probe will bring a 2-meter drill.

Mars covered in toxic chemicals that can wipe out living organisms, tests reveal

Nasa already has ships that can get to mars in 3 days.

3 days, huh?

 

[Syriusly]

Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it, and they won't be close in the foreseeable future. While they say it's all about money, it's far more than money. They just don't have the tech.

NASA finally admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

It doesn't help that they'll miss the best launch window. There a two 'launch window cycles' at play. There's the more important window, which comes every 2.2 years, when Earth is close to "catching up" with Mars. Every Mars launch happens in that window. And there's a less strong 16-year cycle, based on the eccentricity of each planet's orbit. That reaches a minimum in 2018. We'll miss that window, then it won't get that good again until the 2030's. It's maybe a 20% difference in flight time, but if you're trying to have your people not die from radiation, minimizing trip time is vital.

So, realistically, nothing until the 2030s, at the earliest. Maybe Chang-Díaz will have his VASIMR plasma drive working by then, which would help considerably. If it works, it would have much more power than the present Hall thruster plasma drives, and get twice the "gas mileage".

NASA’s longshot bet on a revolutionary rocket may be about to pay off

And another thing, it's been found the Martian soil is so toxic, it will kill all bacteria. Any bacterial life on Mars will have to be buried deep. The new European robot probe will bring a 2-meter drill.

Mars covered in toxic chemicals that can wipe out living organisms, tests reveal

Nasa already has ships that can get to mars in 3 days.

lol

 

[BlackFlag]

I never saw any democrats that could do anything. So sad to see the regression.

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Okay, that made me laugh

 

[miketx]

Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it, and they won't be close in the foreseeable future. While they say it's all about money, it's far more than money. They just don't have the tech.

NASA finally admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

It doesn't help that they'll miss the best launch window. There a two 'launch window cycles' at play. There's the more important window, which comes every 2.2 years, when Earth is close to "catching up" with Mars. Every Mars launch happens in that window. And there's a less strong 16-year cycle, based on the eccentricity of each planet's orbit. That reaches a minimum in 2018. We'll miss that window, then it won't get that good again until the 2030's. It's maybe a 20% difference in flight time, but if you're trying to have your people not die from radiation, minimizing trip time is vital.

So, realistically, nothing until the 2030s, at the earliest. Maybe Chang-Díaz will have his VASIMR plasma drive working by then, which would help considerably. If it works, it would have much more power than the present Hall thruster plasma drives, and get twice the "gas mileage".

NASA’s longshot bet on a revolutionary rocket may be about to pay off

And another thing, it's been found the Martian soil is so toxic, it will kill all bacteria. Any bacterial life on Mars will have to be buried deep. The new European robot probe will bring a 2-meter drill.

Mars covered in toxic chemicals that can wipe out living organisms, tests reveal

Nasa already has ships that can get to mars in 3 days.

3 days, huh?

Non-gravitational speeds.

 

[miketx]

Not surprised that the usual partisan assholes don't care about the subject of the thread- just about attacking those they disagree with.

you should have seen all the democrats that worked at the prison. these losers could not even get to work on time! couldn't fill out paperwork, couldn't keep track of con movements, nothing.

LOL- I am not surprised you have spent most of your life at the prison.

I spent a little over six years working there and had my fill of the worthless lying incompetent democrats who worked there. And you are typical of the democrat liars. You say you are not surprised I have spent most of my life in prison, when you have no clue what I have done - making you just another typical lying thug.

 

[Borillar]

Not surprised that the usual partisan assholes don't care about the subject of the thread- just about attacking those they disagree with.

you should have seen all the democrats that worked at the prison. these losers could not even get to work on time! couldn't fill out paperwork, couldn't keep track of con movements, nothing.

LOL- I am not surprised you have spent most of your life at the prison.

I spent a little over six years working there and had my fill of the worthless lying incompetent democrats who worked there. And you are typical of the democrat liars. You say you are not surprised I have spent most of my life in prison, when you have no clue what I have done - making you just another typical lying thug.

Did you get a 10 year sentence?