Nanny State: NYC considers alcohol bans

[dilloduck]

More Americans better start demanding Big Brother get off their backs...Before it's too late.

Seriously--this has nothing to do with the alcohol vs pot debate. It's about control.

 

[KevinWestern]

The addictive effect is much higher and people high on pot do cause accidents. People can consume liquor and be in full control of their faculties.

The thing is though, when you compare alcohol-related deaths in people under 21 to marijuana-related deaths in people under 21 (I choose under 21 because for this group there's a constant of both substances being illegal for the user), there’s really no comparison.

Alcohol is way, way more deadly.

No it isn't, the abuse of alcohol is.
If we followed your reasoning the logical thing would be to ban people under 21 from driving altogether.

No, my reasoning does not lead to "banning" it altogether. What I’m saying is that alcohol is a more deadlier drug, yet we as a society are willing to “take the risk” and keep it legal (something I’m perfectly fine with), in order to save us billions of dollars in policing alcohol and having to worry about huge underground alcohol operations that can literally take over entire cities (remember the 1920’s?).

Now under that precedent, wouldn’t it be rational to make pot legal as well, given that it’s even less dangerous than alcohol? What exactly are those billions of dollars that come out of each of our paychecks each year to police marijuana protecting us from anyways? A bunch of people who are really complacent and reflective? Citizens in deep thought (very scary)? Hungry teenagers?

 

[jillian]

No it isn't, the abuse of alcohol is.
If we followed your reasoning the logical thing would be to ban people under 21 from driving altogether.

actually alcohol has a level at which it is fatal. pot doesn't.

But alcohol can be consumed without getting drunk and pot can't be consumed without getting high.

and?

 

[KevinWestern]

No it isn't, the abuse of alcohol is.
If we followed your reasoning the logical thing would be to ban people under 21 from driving altogether.

actually alcohol has a level at which it is fatal. pot doesn't.

But alcohol can be consumed without getting drunk and pot can't be consumed without getting high.

People can most definitely smoke a small amount and just get "a little high" just as they can drink a small amount and get a "little tipsy".

There are people who have built up large tolerances to marijuana (just like alcohol) and require large amounts of the drug to feel the effects.

 

[Dick Tuck]

Happy hour in the city could end if Department of Health policy party-poopers go ahead with a proposal to outlaw beer and booze specials at bars and restaurants, sources told The Post.

“It’s absolutely been discussed,” confirmed a department source. “It goes to show you the spirit with which they operate. Everyone is a child.”

High-level conversations have gone beyond merely “throwing pencils on the ceiling and seeing what sticks,” another Health source revealed.

Sources said the happy-hour ban is being pushed by the agency’s marathon-running boss, Commissioner Thomas Farley, and is serious enough for one source to say the alcohol lobby had better find itself a good lawyer.

Agency spokesman Sam Miller denied existing “plans to pursue any policy around discount-alcohol sale.”

But sources said the anti-booze sentiment at the agency has reached a fever pitch, with officials recently asking state officials about the “legality of liquor in ice cream,” referring to potent products infused with bourbon, rum and tequila.

A prohibition on discounted drinks is solidly in line with Farley’s goals, which he outlined in his “Take Care New York 2012” report.

n January, The Post revealed another sobering DOH scheme — a plan to reduce the “density’’ of alcohol outlets.

If a ban is enacted, it would put the Big Apple on par with 19 states that prohibit happy hour.

Read more: City mulls happy hour ban - NYPOST.com

And people are worried about a Mormon in power?

No matter how much the right wing church ladies want it, it ain't gonna happen in the apple.

 

[The Rabbi]

actually alcohol has a level at which it is fatal. pot doesn't.

But alcohol can be consumed without getting drunk and pot can't be consumed without getting high.

People can most definitely smoke a small amount and just get "a little high" just as they can drink a small amount and get a "little tipsy".

There are people who have built up large tolerances to marijuana (just like alcohol) and require large amounts of the drug to feel the effects.

Why would anyone want to smoke pot unless they were going to get high? Taste? Seriously.

 

[BDBoop]

But alcohol can be consumed without getting drunk and pot can't be consumed without getting high.

People can most definitely smoke a small amount and just get "a little high" just as they can drink a small amount and get a "little tipsy".

There are people who have built up large tolerances to marijuana (just like alcohol) and require large amounts of the drug to feel the effects.

Why would anyone want to smoke pot unless they were going to get high? Taste? Seriously.

And so what? Why would anybody want to drink alcohol, except to catch a buzz.

 

[Oddball]

 

[The Rabbi]

People can most definitely smoke a small amount and just get "a little high" just as they can drink a small amount and get a "little tipsy".

There are people who have built up large tolerances to marijuana (just like alcohol) and require large amounts of the drug to feel the effects.

Why would anyone want to smoke pot unless they were going to get high? Taste? Seriously.

And so what? Why would anybody want to drink alcohol, except to catch a buzz.

You don't know much, do you?

 

[KevinWestern]

But alcohol can be consumed without getting drunk and pot can't be consumed without getting high.

People can most definitely smoke a small amount and just get "a little high" just as they can drink a small amount and get a "little tipsy".

There are people who have built up large tolerances to marijuana (just like alcohol) and require large amounts of the drug to feel the effects.

Why would anyone want to smoke pot unless they were going to get high? Taste? Seriously.

Well, perhaps actually. People smoke cigarettes, pipe tobacco because they enjoy the taste or act of smoking, right?

And sometimes people don’t want to be full blown “in the clouds” and simply just want a slight high to take the edge off of things – just as one or two beers would.

 

[Dick Tuck]

But alcohol can be consumed without getting drunk and pot can't be consumed without getting high.

People can most definitely smoke a small amount and just get "a little high" just as they can drink a small amount and get a "little tipsy".

There are people who have built up large tolerances to marijuana (just like alcohol) and require large amounts of the drug to feel the effects.

Why would anyone want to smoke pot unless they were going to get high? Taste? Seriously.

So says Doctor Douchebag. Are you too stupid to know that some good nutrition might add some weeks/months, if you have terminal cancer? Some hot weed will add to your appetite.

You're a piece of shit Nazi.

 

[The Rabbi]

People can most definitely smoke a small amount and just get "a little high" just as they can drink a small amount and get a "little tipsy".

There are people who have built up large tolerances to marijuana (just like alcohol) and require large amounts of the drug to feel the effects.

Why would anyone want to smoke pot unless they were going to get high? Taste? Seriously.

Well, perhaps actually. People smoke cigarettes, pipe tobacco because they enjoy the taste or act of smoking, right?

And sometimes people don’t want to be full blown “in the clouds” and simply just want a slight high to take the edge off of things – just as one or two beers would.

Does anyone enjoy the taste of pot? You smelled that shit?
It's hardly like sampling a Bordeaux.

 

[PoliticalChic]

But sources said the anti-booze sentiment at the agency has reached a fever pitch, with officials recently asking state officials about the “legality of liquor in ice cream,” referring to potent products infused with bourbon, rum and tequila.

Booze AND trans fat?

I'm surprised there isn't jail time involved.

AND salt!


How ya' supposed to take your tequila???

 

[KevinWestern]

Why would anyone want to smoke pot unless they were going to get high? Taste? Seriously.

Well, perhaps actually. People smoke cigarettes, pipe tobacco because they enjoy the taste or act of smoking, right?

And sometimes people don’t want to be full blown “in the clouds” and simply just want a slight high to take the edge off of things – just as one or two beers would.

Does anyone enjoy the taste of pot? You smelled that shit?
It's hardly like sampling a Bordeaux.

Are you kidding me? Have you ever smelled/tasted a cigarette? Millions of people happen to like the taste of those....

It's all a matter of taste. Some people like to eat bugs in certain parts of the world. What you think is bad-tasting might be thought of as a complex delicacy to someone else.

 

[Oddball]

But sources said the anti-booze sentiment at the agency has reached a fever pitch, with officials recently asking state officials about the “legality of liquor in ice cream,” referring to potent products infused with bourbon, rum and tequila.

Booze AND trans fat?

I'm surprised there isn't jail time involved.

AND salt!


How ya' supposed to take your tequila???

To New Jersey.

 

[The Rabbi]

Well, perhaps actually. People smoke cigarettes, pipe tobacco because they enjoy the taste or act of smoking, right?

And sometimes people don’t want to be full blown “in the clouds” and simply just want a slight high to take the edge off of things – just as one or two beers would.

Does anyone enjoy the taste of pot? You smelled that shit?
It's hardly like sampling a Bordeaux.

Are you kidding me? Have you ever smelled/tasted a cigarette? Millions of people happen to like the taste of those....

It's all a matter of taste. Some people like to eat bugs in certain parts of the world. What you think is bad-tasting might be thought of as a complex delicacy to someone else.

Tobacco is hardly comparable. And I've never known anyone who smoked pot because he liked the taste.

 

[Dick Tuck]

Why would anyone want to smoke pot unless they were going to get high? Taste? Seriously.

Well, perhaps actually. People smoke cigarettes, pipe tobacco because they enjoy the taste or act of smoking, right?

And sometimes people don’t want to be full blown “in the clouds” and simply just want a slight high to take the edge off of things – just as one or two beers would.

Does anyone enjoy the taste of pot? You smelled that shit?
It's hardly like sampling a Bordeaux.

You're the only one I know that hankers pig sperm. Do you get a buzz from that?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The addictive effect is much higher and people high on pot do cause accidents.

And where is your evidence of this?

 

[Montrovant]

Happy hour in the city could end if Department of Health policy party-poopers go ahead with a proposal to outlaw beer and booze specials at bars and restaurants, sources told The Post.

“It’s absolutely been discussed,” confirmed a department source. “It goes to show you the spirit with which they operate. Everyone is a child.”

High-level conversations have gone beyond merely “throwing pencils on the ceiling and seeing what sticks,” another Health source revealed.

Sources said the happy-hour ban is being pushed by the agency’s marathon-running boss, Commissioner Thomas Farley, and is serious enough for one source to say the alcohol lobby had better find itself a good lawyer.

Agency spokesman Sam Miller denied existing “plans to pursue any policy around discount-alcohol sale.”

But sources said the anti-booze sentiment at the agency has reached a fever pitch, with officials recently asking state officials about the “legality of liquor in ice cream,” referring to potent products infused with bourbon, rum and tequila.

A prohibition on discounted drinks is solidly in line with Farley’s goals, which he outlined in his “Take Care New York 2012” report.

n January, The Post revealed another sobering DOH scheme — a plan to reduce the “density’’ of alcohol outlets.

If a ban is enacted, it would put the Big Apple on par with 19 states that prohibit happy hour.

Read more: City mulls happy hour ban - NYPOST.com

And people are worried about a Mormon in power?

While this is pretty silly, I think people haven't paid enough attention to the fact that this is a possible city ban (denied by the DoH and the mayor), while there are apparently 19 STATES that prohibit happy hour per the article.

In this area, at least, NYC seems to lag behind much of the country in government control.

That's probably a very sad commentary on the state of our country's laws.

 

[LockeJaw]

The NYC libtard genius population will still vote for the jackass party if this ever happened.