N Korea calls Obama a monkey - I agree

[LoneLaugher]

Sometimes even the North Koreans get it right. I agree with them but with a little different twist. To me Obama has always been George Soros's little trained monkey.

Of course comparing Obama to a monkey is insulting monkey's, isn't it?


"Obama always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey in a tropical forest," an unidentified spokesman at the commission's policy department said in a statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency.
North Korea calls Obama a monkey in latest hacking salvo - Telegraph

Of course you do......what else can a racist piece of dog shit say.

why is calling Obama a monkey racist when calling bush one wasn't?

Whoa! Like.......wow! Like.....you just blew us all away with a logic bomb! Narly, dude!

 

[suplex3000]

Sometimes even the North Koreans get it right. I agree with them but with a little different twist. To me Obama has always been George Soros's little trained monkey.

Of course comparing Obama to a monkey is insulting monkey's, isn't it?


"Obama always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey in a tropical forest," an unidentified spokesman at the commission's policy department said in a statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency.
North Korea calls Obama a monkey in latest hacking salvo - Telegraph

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Hey guys! Obama is nice man. Look at him! He is slim, tall, handsome, enigmatic, half irish half black. He is perfect! And in my opinion it's enough for the president of the United States of America. Another guys have to be wise, american president just have to smile. Smile and wave)

Pretty boy

 

[Menerva Lindsen]

Sometimes even the North Koreans get it right. I agree with them but with a little different twist. To me Obama has always been George Soros's little trained monkey.

Of course comparing Obama to a monkey is insulting monkey's, isn't it?


"Obama always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey in a tropical forest," an unidentified spokesman at the commission's policy department said in a statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency.
North Korea calls Obama a monkey in latest hacking salvo - Telegraph

I suppose "monkey" is not the worst curse Obama has ever heard. Moreover it isn't an oath to him. In some countries monkey is an animal of respect. Shame on us who have elected this animal as the state President. To tell the truth our Government reminds me a zoo.

 

[Judicial review]

I'm actually going to put that guy on ignore. He doesn't enhance this place whatsoever with his one liner buzztards.

I tried to tell you!

 

[Judicial review]

Sometimes even the North Koreans get it right. I agree with them but with a little different twist. To me Obama has always been George Soros's little trained monkey.

Of course comparing Obama to a monkey is insulting monkey's, isn't it?


"Obama always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey in a tropical forest," an unidentified spokesman at the commission's policy department said in a statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency.
North Korea calls Obama a monkey in latest hacking salvo - Telegraph

I suppose "monkey" is not the worst curse Obama has ever heard. Moreover it isn't an oath to him. In some countries monkey is an animal of respect. Shame on us who have elected this animal as the state President. To tell the truth our Government reminds me a zoo.

Ok, your avatar has officially made you my favorite poster here. I'm serious. I don't know whether to look at it or your post. I keep trying to enhance the avatar and make it my background desktop photo.

 

[Discombobulated]

I'm actually going to put that guy on ignore. He doesn't enhance this place whatsoever with his one liner buzztards.

I tried to tell you!

If that's supposed to be a consequence then you two scholars evidently don't get the concept.......sounds a lot more like a reward.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Does the Left understand that Obama is only half black or are they still working on that?

 

[Discombobulated]

Does the Left understand that Obama is only half black or are they still working on that?

Does that mean you only hate him half as much?

 

[orogenicman]

What do you believe the outcome will be? What do you believe the outcome SHOULD be?

No one knows the correct answer to either of those questions; especially no one in our Government. That's why Obama is trying something new. However, it doesn't mean it will work any better than the sanctions. Meaning it could not work at all.

Now for my question - Has it ever occurred to you that the problem was never cuba, but simply just the Castro regime? Who btw are still in power with zero conditions.

You are right, it might not work. But it is certainly better than the alternative, which is to continue doing the same stupid thing we've been doing for the past 50 years. Many Cuban Americans want the sanctions lifted. Moreover, if capitalism is such a powerful force for opening up economies, who is to say that it won't also bring with it powerful social and political changes? It's happened plenty of times before.

As for Castro, so what? ALL of our allies have long had normal relations with Cuba, as well as economic ties. So it is pretty dumb for us to be the lone wolf on this when there is no reason to.

That can't possibly be known at this point. Like you said it "might" not work. Might meaning you aren't even sure. Then you say it's "certainly" better than the alternative, and completely just contradicted yourself.

We don't know and that my point that is fact at least for now.

I might not wake up in the morning. There are a lot of things that I don't know. Does that mean I have to hide my head in the sand to keep the boogeyman away? No. What we absolutely know doesn't work is continued non-diplomatic and economic relations with Cuba. THAT does not work.

I'm not saying I disagree with you. I'm simply saying I don't feel one way or the other, but that castro regime has got to go and there should have be SOMEKIND of terms that they had to agree to, but there were NONE. It's not looking good at all at this point and that is indisputable.

Well, you see. This is where we do disagree. What right do we have, have we ever had, to decide the leadership of other nations? None, as far as I can determine. And yet we appear to believe that we do have that right. What makes us so special?

 

[orogenicman]

I never said that people don't have freedom of expression. But what you express, you own. And right now, it appears that certain so-called conservatives on this thread are agreeing with the racist remarks of the worst dictator on the planet. They own that. I'm sure they will wear it on their sleeves and pat themselves on the back for having done so.

If they are racists then yes they will have to wear it, but being a conservative has NOTHING to do with it, and by you saying that word means you are trying to make racism a political issue when it's an individual issue. Meaning you don't understand racism or are simply being disingenuous.

Then I suggest you admonish your right wing compadres who are agreeing with these racist remarks instead of chastising me for pointing them out. By the way, if it isn't a conservative thing, why are there no leftists agreeing with Kim Jon Un on this point?

Kim Jon Un is simply an individual who is racist. Every "poster" (Notice I didn't say "conservative") that agrees with him are agreeing with his racist remarks and nothing else. You need to stop making this political right now. It's wrong, and completely untrue. If you don't - I will write you a 10 page essay on how the Liberals have had a political agenda to make blacks dependent on them for political gain since the 60's. You can call that making them their political slaves. What are the republicans trying to do give direct charity to help them be independent, and have the true freedom that was granted to them in the min 19 th century.

Sorry, I disagree that it isn't a political issue. It most certainly is. As for your 10-page fascist manifesto, go for it. I've heard it all before. Do you honestly believe that you are the first person on the planet to put bullshit to paper?

So you don't think that welfare programs which it's a known fact that libs want people to have way more access to it and keep extending the ability to get it and the republicans trying to pass welfare reforms and will likely pass another don't hold minorities;especially blacks hostage? Really? That's common sense. Everybody knows that. btw.. When were all the welfare programs started after what event major racial Federal action and in what year? Who keeps on trying to create more access to them all for more and more higher income levels? Who's the party that's trying to increase food stamp rewards?

Now after reading the above - Knowing that the GOP is trying to reduce the access to those programs only to those that need it, who will the blacks blame? Over the last 6 years how many times had Nancy pelosi come out in support of food stamps and these welfare programs and blamed the GOP for throwing minorities and granny off a cliff?

And you are going to tell me and others here that there isn't a political agenda by the left to try and swing votes? Really? You'll look like a fool really quick if you continue with this.

Here is what I know. partially from personal experience. Despite the bullshit you have been force fed by the GOP, welfare actually does help people. Despite what the GOP has force fed you, people actually DON'T want their Social Security fucked with (i.e., they don't want Wall street's greedy fucking hands on it). Despite what your fascist GOP leaders are telling you, attacking programs that help the poor and minorities actually WON'T get you minority or poor votes in 2016. You people simply don't get it. And with your record, you likely never will.

 

[orogenicman]

Then I suggest you admonish your right wing compadres who are agreeing with these racist remarks instead of chastising me for pointing them out. By the way, if it isn't a conservative thing, why are there no leftists agreeing with Kim Jon Un on this point?

Kim Jon Un is simply an individual who is racist. Every "poster" (Notice I didn't say "conservative") that agrees with him are agreeing with his racist remarks and nothing else. You need to stop making this political right now. It's wrong, and completely untrue. If you don't - I will write you a 10 page essay on how the Liberals have had a political agenda to make blacks dependent on them for political gain since the 60's. You can call that making them their political slaves. What are the republicans trying to do give direct charity to help them be independent, and have the true freedom that was granted to them in the min 19 th century.

Sorry, I disagree that it isn't a political issue. It most certainly is. As for your 10-page fascist manifesto, go for it. I've heard it all before. Do you honestly believe that you are the first person on the planet to put bullshit to paper?

So you don't think that welfare programs which it's a known fact that libs want people to have way more access to it and keep extending the ability to get it and the republicans trying to pass welfare reforms and will likely pass another hold minorities;especially blacks hostage? Really? That's common sense. Everybody knows that. btw.. When were all the welfare programs started after what event major racial Federal action and in what year? Who keeps on trying to create more access to them all for more and more higher income levels? Who's the party that's trying to increase food stamp rewards?

Now after reading the above - Knowing that the GOP is trying to reduce the access to those programs only to those that need it, who will the blacks blame? Over the last 6 years how many times had Nancy pelosi come out in support of food stamps and these welfare programs and blamed the GOP for throwing minorities and granny off a cliff?

And you are going to tell me and others here that there isn't a political agenda by the left to try and swing votes? Really? You'll look like a fool really quick if you continue with this.

With all this astounding knowledge at your finger tips it's a wonder you don't go door to door in predominantly black neighborhoods spreading the good word.

I'm not running for office am I? You finally said something smart and I'll give it to you. The GOP's problem is that they haven't gone door to door in the poorest neighborhoods and talked with these minorities. Huge fucking mistake.

Considering the fact that the base of the Republican party consists primarily of old evangelical white guys, does it surprise anyone that they don't go door to door in minority neighborhoods?

 

[Judicial review]

No one knows the correct answer to either of those questions; especially no one in our Government. That's why Obama is trying something new. However, it doesn't mean it will work any better than the sanctions. Meaning it could not work at all.

Now for my question - Has it ever occurred to you that the problem was never cuba, but simply just the Castro regime? Who btw are still in power with zero conditions.

You are right, it might not work. But it is certainly better than the alternative, which is to continue doing the same stupid thing we've been doing for the past 50 years. Many Cuban Americans want the sanctions lifted. Moreover, if capitalism is such a powerful force for opening up economies, who is to say that it won't also bring with it powerful social and political changes? It's happened plenty of times before.

As for Castro, so what? ALL of our allies have long had normal relations with Cuba, as well as economic ties. So it is pretty dumb for us to be the lone wolf on this when there is no reason to.

That can't possibly be known at this point. Like you said it "might" not work. Might meaning you aren't even sure. Then you say it's "certainly" better than the alternative, and completely just contradicted yourself.

We don't know and that my point that is fact at least for now.

I might not wake up in the morning. There are a lot of things that I don't know. Does that mean I have to hide my head in the sand to keep the boogeyman away? No. What we absolutely know doesn't work is continued non-diplomatic and economic relations with Cuba. THAT does not work.

I'm not saying I disagree with you. I'm simply saying I don't feel one way or the other, but that castro regime has got to go and there should have be SOMEKIND of terms that they had to agree to, but there were NONE. It's not looking good at all at this point and that is indisputable.

Well, you see. This is where we do disagree. What right do we have, have we ever had, to decide the leadership of other nations? None, as far as I can determine. And yet we appear to believe that we do have that right. What makes us so special?

I never said force them out through force. Now you are stretching things to stupidity. If they are going to leave they will have to choose to leave or their people will have to rise up and kick them out. Remember we got nothing in that deal. That's not good at all. What's even worse is that Castro is still the head of it and the odds of that changing and things getting better swing the wrong way in probability. You can't deny that. You can hope that he gets forced out by his own people, but he's been in control for how long? Not likely.

No matter how you look at it a deal with very low probability for your side likely means no change or a change for the worse.

 

[Judicial review]

If they are racists then yes they will have to wear it, but being a conservative has NOTHING to do with it, and by you saying that word means you are trying to make racism a political issue when it's an individual issue. Meaning you don't understand racism or are simply being disingenuous.

Then I suggest you admonish your right wing compadres who are agreeing with these racist remarks instead of chastising me for pointing them out. By the way, if it isn't a conservative thing, why are there no leftists agreeing with Kim Jon Un on this point?

Kim Jon Un is simply an individual who is racist. Every "poster" (Notice I didn't say "conservative") that agrees with him are agreeing with his racist remarks and nothing else. You need to stop making this political right now. It's wrong, and completely untrue. If you don't - I will write you a 10 page essay on how the Liberals have had a political agenda to make blacks dependent on them for political gain since the 60's. You can call that making them their political slaves. What are the republicans trying to do give direct charity to help them be independent, and have the true freedom that was granted to them in the min 19 th century.

Sorry, I disagree that it isn't a political issue. It most certainly is. As for your 10-page fascist manifesto, go for it. I've heard it all before. Do you honestly believe that you are the first person on the planet to put bullshit to paper?

So you don't think that welfare programs which it's a known fact that libs want people to have way more access to it and keep extending the ability to get it and the republicans trying to pass welfare reforms and will likely pass another don't hold minorities;especially blacks hostage? Really? That's common sense. Everybody knows that. btw.. When were all the welfare programs started after what event major racial Federal action and in what year? Who keeps on trying to create more access to them all for more and more higher income levels? Who's the party that's trying to increase food stamp rewards?

Now after reading the above - Knowing that the GOP is trying to reduce the access to those programs only to those that need it, who will the blacks blame? Over the last 6 years how many times had Nancy pelosi come out in support of food stamps and these welfare programs and blamed the GOP for throwing minorities and granny off a cliff?

And you are going to tell me and others here that there isn't a political agenda by the left to try and swing votes? Really? You'll look like a fool really quick if you continue with this.

Here is what I know. partially from personal experience. Despite the bullshit you have been force fed by the GOP, welfare actually does help people. Despite what the GOP has force fed you, people actually DON'T want their Social Security fucked with (i.e., they don't want Wall street's greedy fucking hands on it). Despite what your fascist GOP leaders are telling you, attacking programs that help the poor and minorities actually WON'T get you minority or poor votes in 2016. You people simply don't get it. And with your record, you likely never will.

Actually you are dead wrong. The GOP helped create some of the programs because "some" people did need it. All that I have to tell you to prove my point is to look at history. Libs keep trying to extend it to literally no end, and the GOP is forced to rein it back in, and it's a political football to sway votes and your liberal leadership has been so eager to scream to the press about on capital hill. And you you are going to sit there and tell me this isn't political? LOL!!!!! Oh and by the way, I don't listen to my parties leadership. They are a bunch of morons, but they are right of center on these issues.

You are dead wrong buddy. It's time you admit both parties establishment have been all politics for the last 6 years. What you are going to see in 2017 is the GOP having to rein in all of the liberal shit again. Just like they always have to do. History proves it.

 

[orogenicman]

You are trying to deflect Obama's stupidly by saying other people did the same thing. I suspect that all you Libtards thought Nixon was an asshole so comparing Obama to Nixon is quite funny when you think about it.

You need to think a little bit instead of always sucking Obama's penis.

There is nothing wrong with anybody trying to get Cuba on the right track. However, that shithead Obama didn't do that. He legitimized the oppressive Cuban government and got nothing of substance in return. In other words the corrupt and incompetent sonofabitch gave away the store. Cuba got everything they could dream of and didn't have to do anything significant in return. They can continue to be oppressive and also have American support. That is like having your cake and being able to eat it to.

If you don't understand what is wrong with Cuba then you have been watching too many Michael Moore movies, which a typical dumbass thing for a Moon Bat to do.

Do you always repeat what you hear from Rush Limbaugh and FOX News? Or is dick sucking as far as your original thinking takes you?

well considering neither says anything he has been saying it be difficult for him to repeating them. Course you would know that if you listened to different sources of information instead of pretending you have any idea what they say

I know exactly what the lying cock suckers say every day. Ever notice how many FOX News stories lead off with ....."People are saying...." or "We've heard people say....."
Every time they do that you know they're the only one's saying it.

I love how you Leftwats have such a hardon for Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. It's as if you bristle at any opposition to the communist revolution. It is only communists who hate dissent, free media, and the exposure of the truth. And to add insult to injury, Rush Limbaugh revolutionized AM radio, a feat that Leftists can't duplicate even with federal grants to help, and Fox News has for the last decade more ratings than MSNBC and CNN combined.

That means people aren't listening to you, last election case in point.

OMG that must burn!

what's funny is they don't even have a clue what either say. Or they are lying. I would like to think people say things more out of ignorance than malice

What is truly funny? A conservative defending Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. Now THAT is funny.

 

[Judicial review]

Kim Jon Un is simply an individual who is racist. Every "poster" (Notice I didn't say "conservative") that agrees with him are agreeing with his racist remarks and nothing else. You need to stop making this political right now. It's wrong, and completely untrue. If you don't - I will write you a 10 page essay on how the Liberals have had a political agenda to make blacks dependent on them for political gain since the 60's. You can call that making them their political slaves. What are the republicans trying to do give direct charity to help them be independent, and have the true freedom that was granted to them in the min 19 th century.

Sorry, I disagree that it isn't a political issue. It most certainly is. As for your 10-page fascist manifesto, go for it. I've heard it all before. Do you honestly believe that you are the first person on the planet to put bullshit to paper?

So you don't think that welfare programs which it's a known fact that libs want people to have way more access to it and keep extending the ability to get it and the republicans trying to pass welfare reforms and will likely pass another hold minorities;especially blacks hostage? Really? That's common sense. Everybody knows that. btw.. When were all the welfare programs started after what event major racial Federal action and in what year? Who keeps on trying to create more access to them all for more and more higher income levels? Who's the party that's trying to increase food stamp rewards?

Now after reading the above - Knowing that the GOP is trying to reduce the access to those programs only to those that need it, who will the blacks blame? Over the last 6 years how many times had Nancy pelosi come out in support of food stamps and these welfare programs and blamed the GOP for throwing minorities and granny off a cliff?

And you are going to tell me and others here that there isn't a political agenda by the left to try and swing votes? Really? You'll look like a fool really quick if you continue with this.

With all this astounding knowledge at your finger tips it's a wonder you don't go door to door in predominantly black neighborhoods spreading the good word.

I'm not running for office am I? You finally said something smart and I'll give it to you. The GOP's problem is that they haven't gone door to door in the poorest neighborhoods and talked with these minorities. Huge fucking mistake.

Considering the fact that the base of the Republican party consists primarily of old evangelical white guys, does it surprise anyone that they don't go door to door in minority neighborhoods?

Ok, now I've seen you give up and surrender the argument to me by posting pure obscene stupidity that's just stupid. Keep this up you will go on my ignore and you can forget about any meaningful discussion on this board, and you will no longer be taken seriously by anybody.

 

[orogenicman]

You are right, it might not work. But it is certainly better than the alternative, which is to continue doing the same stupid thing we've been doing for the past 50 years. Many Cuban Americans want the sanctions lifted. Moreover, if capitalism is such a powerful force for opening up economies, who is to say that it won't also bring with it powerful social and political changes? It's happened plenty of times before.

As for Castro, so what? ALL of our allies have long had normal relations with Cuba, as well as economic ties. So it is pretty dumb for us to be the lone wolf on this when there is no reason to.

That can't possibly be known at this point. Like you said it "might" not work. Might meaning you aren't even sure. Then you say it's "certainly" better than the alternative, and completely just contradicted yourself.

We don't know and that my point that is fact at least for now.

I might not wake up in the morning. There are a lot of things that I don't know. Does that mean I have to hide my head in the sand to keep the boogeyman away? No. What we absolutely know doesn't work is continued non-diplomatic and economic relations with Cuba. THAT does not work.

I'm not saying I disagree with you. I'm simply saying I don't feel one way or the other, but that castro regime has got to go and there should have be SOMEKIND of terms that they had to agree to, but there were NONE. It's not looking good at all at this point and that is indisputable.

Well, you see. This is where we do disagree. What right do we have, have we ever had, to decide the leadership of other nations? None, as far as I can determine. And yet we appear to believe that we do have that right. What makes us so special?

I never said force them out through force. Now you are stretching things to stupidity.

Interestingly, neither did I.

If they are going to leave they will have to choose to leave or their people will have to rise up and kick them out. Remember we got nothing in that deal. That's not good at all. What's even worse is that Castro is still the head of it and the odds of that changing and things getting better swing the wrong way in probability. You can't deny that. You can hope that he gets forced out by his own people, but he's been in control for how long? Not likely.

No matter how you look at it a deal with very low good probability for your side likely means no change or a change for the worse.

Actually, Raul Castro, Fidel's brother, runs things now. And he has opened the process up a bit, not as much as we'd like, but it is he who has made it possible for us to even have this discussion with the Cubans. The fact is that the Cubans (both here in the states and in Cuba itself) want normal relations, want stronger economic ties. My girlfriend's father was Cuban. So I do know a little bit about this.

 

[Judicial review]

Do you always repeat what you hear from Rush Limbaugh and FOX News? Or is dick sucking as far as your original thinking takes you?

well considering neither says anything he has been saying it be difficult for him to repeating them. Course you would know that if you listened to different sources of information instead of pretending you have any idea what they say

I know exactly what the lying cock suckers say every day. Ever notice how many FOX News stories lead off with ....."People are saying...." or "We've heard people say....."
Every time they do that you know they're the only one's saying it.

I love how you Leftwats have such a hardon for Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. It's as if you bristle at any opposition to the communist revolution. It is only communists who hate dissent, free media, and the exposure of the truth. And to add insult to injury, Rush Limbaugh revolutionized AM radio, a feat that Leftists can't duplicate even with federal grants to help, and Fox News has for the last decade more ratings than MSNBC and CNN combined.

That means people aren't listening to you, last election case in point.

OMG that must burn!

what's funny is they don't even have a clue what either say. Or they are lying. I would like to think people say things more out of ignorance than malice

What is truly funny? A conservative defending Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. Now THAT is funny.

We'll I can tell you I'm 1 conservative that think rush, hannity, and fox news and every other media outlet is shit because they all have a political agenda. So..... If you indeed listen to any media outlets you are being sold an agenda.

I quit watching foxnews over 2 years ago. I quit all the other ones 6 years ago.

 

[orogenicman]

Then I suggest you admonish your right wing compadres who are agreeing with these racist remarks instead of chastising me for pointing them out. By the way, if it isn't a conservative thing, why are there no leftists agreeing with Kim Jon Un on this point?

Kim Jon Un is simply an individual who is racist. Every "poster" (Notice I didn't say "conservative") that agrees with him are agreeing with his racist remarks and nothing else. You need to stop making this political right now. It's wrong, and completely untrue. If you don't - I will write you a 10 page essay on how the Liberals have had a political agenda to make blacks dependent on them for political gain since the 60's. You can call that making them their political slaves. What are the republicans trying to do give direct charity to help them be independent, and have the true freedom that was granted to them in the min 19 th century.

Sorry, I disagree that it isn't a political issue. It most certainly is. As for your 10-page fascist manifesto, go for it. I've heard it all before. Do you honestly believe that you are the first person on the planet to put bullshit to paper?

So you don't think that welfare programs which it's a known fact that libs want people to have way more access to it and keep extending the ability to get it and the republicans trying to pass welfare reforms and will likely pass another don't hold minorities;especially blacks hostage? Really? That's common sense. Everybody knows that. btw.. When were all the welfare programs started after what event major racial Federal action and in what year? Who keeps on trying to create more access to them all for more and more higher income levels? Who's the party that's trying to increase food stamp rewards?

Now after reading the above - Knowing that the GOP is trying to reduce the access to those programs only to those that need it, who will the blacks blame? Over the last 6 years how many times had Nancy pelosi come out in support of food stamps and these welfare programs and blamed the GOP for throwing minorities and granny off a cliff?

And you are going to tell me and others here that there isn't a political agenda by the left to try and swing votes? Really? You'll look like a fool really quick if you continue with this.

Here is what I know. partially from personal experience. Despite the bullshit you have been force fed by the GOP, welfare actually does help people. Despite what the GOP has force fed you, people actually DON'T want their Social Security fucked with (i.e., they don't want Wall street's greedy fucking hands on it). Despite what your fascist GOP leaders are telling you, attacking programs that help the poor and minorities actually WON'T get you minority or poor votes in 2016. You people simply don't get it. And with your record, you likely never will.

Actually you are dead wrong. The GOP helped create some of the programs because "some" people did need it. All that I have to tell you to prove my point is to look at history. Libs keep trying to extend it to literally no end, and the GOP is forced to rein it back in, and it's a political football to sway votes and your liberal leadership has been so eager to scream to the press about on capital hill. And you you are going to sit there and tell me this isn't political? LOL!!!!! Oh and by the way, I don't listen to my parties leadership. They are a bunch of morons, but they are right of center on these issues.

You are dead wrong buddy. It's time you admit both parties establishment have been all politics for the last 6 years. What you are going to see in 2017 is the GOP having to rein in all of the liberal shit again. Just like they always have to do. History proves it.

Right of center? Are you kidding? They are so far right of center I fear they might actually fall off their 'flat' Earth.

 

[orogenicman]

Sorry, I disagree that it isn't a political issue. It most certainly is. As for your 10-page fascist manifesto, go for it. I've heard it all before. Do you honestly believe that you are the first person on the planet to put bullshit to paper?

So you don't think that welfare programs which it's a known fact that libs want people to have way more access to it and keep extending the ability to get it and the republicans trying to pass welfare reforms and will likely pass another hold minorities;especially blacks hostage? Really? That's common sense. Everybody knows that. btw.. When were all the welfare programs started after what event major racial Federal action and in what year? Who keeps on trying to create more access to them all for more and more higher income levels? Who's the party that's trying to increase food stamp rewards?

Now after reading the above - Knowing that the GOP is trying to reduce the access to those programs only to those that need it, who will the blacks blame? Over the last 6 years how many times had Nancy pelosi come out in support of food stamps and these welfare programs and blamed the GOP for throwing minorities and granny off a cliff?

And you are going to tell me and others here that there isn't a political agenda by the left to try and swing votes? Really? You'll look like a fool really quick if you continue with this.

With all this astounding knowledge at your finger tips it's a wonder you don't go door to door in predominantly black neighborhoods spreading the good word.

I'm not running for office am I? You finally said something smart and I'll give it to you. The GOP's problem is that they haven't gone door to door in the poorest neighborhoods and talked with these minorities. Huge fucking mistake.

Considering the fact that the base of the Republican party consists primarily of old evangelical white guys, does it surprise anyone that they don't go door to door in minority neighborhoods?

Ok, now I've seen you give up and surrender the argument to me by posting pure obscene stupidity that's just stupid. Keep this up you will go on my ignore and you can forget about any meaningful discussion on this board, and you will no longer be taken seriously by anybody.

Let me get this straight. You are threatening to put me on ignore for speaking the truth? Oh my. You mean to tell me that my being taken seriously on USMB depends on whether YOU take me seriously? Wow, you have quite an ego there.

 

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That can't possibly be known at this point. Like you said it "might" not work. Might meaning you aren't even sure. Then you say it's "certainly" better than the alternative, and completely just contradicted yourself.

We don't know and that my point that is fact at least for now.

I might not wake up in the morning. There are a lot of things that I don't know. Does that mean I have to hide my head in the sand to keep the boogeyman away? No. What we absolutely know doesn't work is continued non-diplomatic and economic relations with Cuba. THAT does not work.

I'm not saying I disagree with you. I'm simply saying I don't feel one way or the other, but that castro regime has got to go and there should have be SOMEKIND of terms that they had to agree to, but there were NONE. It's not looking good at all at this point and that is indisputable.

Well, you see. This is where we do disagree. What right do we have, have we ever had, to decide the leadership of other nations? None, as far as I can determine. And yet we appear to believe that we do have that right. What makes us so special?

I never said force them out through force. Now you are stretching things to stupidity.

Interestingly, neither did I.

If they are going to leave they will have to choose to leave or their people will have to rise up and kick them out. Remember we got nothing in that deal. That's not good at all. What's even worse is that Castro is still the head of it and the odds of that changing and things getting better swing the wrong way in probability. You can't deny that. You can hope that he gets forced out by his own people, but he's been in control for how long? Not likely.

No matter how you look at it a deal with very low good probability for your side likely means no change or a change for the worse.

Actually, Raul Castro, Fidel's brother, runs things now. And he has opened the process up a bit, not as much as we'd like, but it is he who has made it possible for us to even have this discussion with the Cubans. The fact is that the Cubans (both here in the states and in Cuba itself) want normal relations, want stronger economic ties. My girlfriend's father was Cuban. So I do know a little bit about this.

Yes you did you said "decide" leadership. only 1 way to decide it is to forcefully oust a regime. I don't call swaying a regime one way or another by giving them a nudge by demanding something in negotiations deciding who runs a country. So, clarify, what did you mean when you said decide?