Myth of the Starving and Deprived Gazans!!!

Discussion in 'Israel and Palestine' started by GHook93, Jun 10, 2010.

  1. GHook93
    Offline

    GHook93 Aristotle

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2007
    Messages:
    17,915
    Thanks Received:
    3,126
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Location:
    Chicago
    Ratings:
    +4,927
    There is no crisis in Gaza! The opposite is true. They groceries filled with food, they have well-stocked medical supplies and fuel!

    The crisis is a figment of the antisemites like P F's imagination.

    Where did the vast vast majority of this aid come from - ISRAEL!!!


     
  2. Quantum Windbag
    Offline

    Quantum Windbag Gold Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2010
    Messages:
    58,308
    Thanks Received:
    5,014
    Trophy Points:
    245
    Ratings:
    +5,221
    Don't bother, the sympathizers will simply denounce this as Israeli propaganda, just like they always do.
     
  3. al Haq
    Offline

    al Haq Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2009
    Messages:
    412
    Thanks Received:
    41
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Ratings:
    +41
    More shameless hasbara. The quotes they pulled from the Washington Post article to try to add credibility to their claims are taken completely out of context.

    But you wouldn't know that unless you actually read the Post article, which of course Arutz Sheva doesn't want you to do - so they don't even link it.

    This is what the Post actually said:

    Linkie:
    washingtonpost.com
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  4. GHook93
    Offline

    GHook93 Aristotle

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2007
    Messages:
    17,915
    Thanks Received:
    3,126
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Location:
    Chicago
    Ratings:
    +4,927
    Doesn't refute from the fact that Gaza is not in the dire strains that people like you and the Free Gaza Hypocrites

    They have food, water, medical supplies, luxury items and fuel. I guarantee they do a heck of a lot better than 95% of the African nations, better than most Asia nations, better than Yemen, Oman, Kuwait etc. and better than most Latin American nations. Why don't the Free Gaza Hypocrites travel to these nations in who are in worse dire strains!

     
  5. P F Tinmore
    Offline

    P F Tinmore Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2009
    Messages:
    34,604
    Thanks Received:
    1,698
    Trophy Points:
    1,080
    Ratings:
    +2,922
    That is not the point.
     
  6. Shai
    Offline

    Shai Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2010
    Messages:
    119
    Thanks Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Israel
    Ratings:
    +22
    Palestinians admit Gaza not starving, Hamas steals aid

    In the wake of the Gaza flotilla incident, anti-Israel activists around the world have worked to boost their message that the Gaza Strip is the most destitute place on earth, where famine and plague rule.

    But remarks by Palestinians living in Gaza to international media outlets covering the aid flotilla story paint a very different picture.

    "There is no starvation in Gaza. No one has died of hunger," Khalil Hamada, a senior official at Gaza's Ministry of Justice, told London's Daily Telegraph. Sticking to the Hamas party line, he then went on to criticize Israel's embargo as "inhumane" and "brutal."

    Since much of the international media ignores Palestinians when they admit Israel isn't so bad, Israel itself tried to counter the misinformation regarding the Gaza embargo by publishing figures showing how much aid enters the territory.

    According to figures released by Israel's Foreign Ministry, in the first quarter of 2010 (January-March), 94,500 tons of supplies passed through Israel's border crossings with Gaza. That aid included 40,000 tons of wheat (equal to 53 million loaves of bread), 2,760 tones of rice (or 69 million servings), 1,987 tons of clothes (the equivalent of 3.6 million pairs of jeans), and 553 tons of milk powder and baby food.

    And it's not just essential goods Israel provides. During the Muslim holy month of Ramadan late last year, Israel brought 11,000 head of cattle into Gaza, enough for 8.8 million meals of beef.

    The problem is that most of these goods never reach average average Gazans. It is a long-time policy of the Palestinian and wider Arab leadership to maintain a victim or "refugee" status among average Palestinians.

    Gaza resident Zaed Khadar acknowledged as much in an interview with Germany's Der Spiegel:

    "People who are not in with Hamas don't see any of the relief goods or the gifts of money. Hamas supporters get prefabricated housing, furnishings and paid work. We get nothing."

    Palestinians admit Gaza not starving, Hamas steals aid


    More evidence Gaza is not starving

    The international community is sticking to the line that the Gaza Strip is a land of destitution where famine grips nearly every family. Comparisons with World War II concentration camps are popular.

    But one of the results of the recent failed "humanitarian aid" flotilla to Gaza is that more and more journalists and researches are looking into the Gaza situation and finding it doesn't really reflect what is being written about it.

    We already wrote last month about how National Post correspondent Tom Gross discovered gourmet restaurants and Olympic-sized swimming pools in Gaza. Lt. Col. (ret.) Jonathan D. Halevi of the Institute for Contemporary Affairs has compiled a comprehensive report on the situation in Gaza including several quotes from the mainstream and Arab press that acknowledge Gaza is not starving, and is no worse off than anywhere else in the Middle East.

    In a June 3 report, Janine Zacharia of the Washington Post wrote, "If you walk down Gaza City's main thoroughfare - Salah al-Din Street - grocery stores are stocked wall-too-wall with everything from fresh Israeli yogurts and hummus to Cocoa Puffs smuggled in from Egypt. Pharmacies look as well-supplied as a typical Rite Aid in the United States."

    Earlier in the year, the Palestinian Bethlehem-based news agency Ma'an reported that "Gaza markets are saturated with goods."

    To drive home the point, Halevi included a list provided by Israel's Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territoris of what Israel sent into Gaza in 2009 (in addition to what was smuggled in or brought in by private business concerns):


    ■Health: 4,883 tons of medical equipment and medicines entered Gaza that year in coordination with the Palestinian Authority and international agencies;


    ■Electricity: Israel continued to supply electricity to Gaza from its power plant in Ashkelon. In addition, 41 truckloads of equipment were transferred for the maintenance of the electrical system in Gaza. Between April and October 2009, Siemens carried out maintenance work on the power system in Gaza, to which more than 100 million liters of diesel fuel were delivered for its operation.


    ■Communications: 45 truckloads of communication equipment were sent to Gaza at the request of the Palestinian Authority.


    ■Water and sewage: 95 truckloads of equipment for water and sewage systems, as well as 3,720 tons of chloride for water purification, were transferred during 2009.


    ■The private sector: 77 percent of the contents of trucks sent into Gaza in 2009 were for the private sector. 257 Palestinian businessmen exited Gaza to Israel, the West Bank, and abroad. 10,871 head of cattle were transferred to Gaza, mainly for the Ramadan and Eid al-Adha holidays. In preparation for winter, 3,607 tons of glass for windows was transferred to Gaza.


    ■Money: Over NIS 1.1 billion (approximately $300 million) was transferred to Gaza in 2009 to fund salaries and the activities of international organizations. In addition, NIS 40 million (approximately $10 million) in worn banknotes were replaced.


    ■Humanitarian aid: 141,390 tons of humanitarian aid were transferred by the international community through Israel, including 115,043 tons of food and 2,990 tons of medicines and medical equipment.


    ■UNRWA: 3,282,000 liters of fuel and diesel were transferred for use by UNRWA. In addition, special equipment for summer camps, including swimming pools, ice cream machines, musical instruments, and sports equipment were transferred to UNRWA.


    ■Agricultural export: The export of flowers and strawberries was approved as part of a joint project with the government of the Netherlands. Since the beginning of the project, more than 7 million flowers and 54 tons of strawberries were exported.


    Israel does indeed maintain a firm blockade of the Gaza Strip in order to deny its Hamas rulers goods that could be used in the manufacture of weapons of war. But Israel is not restricting the entry of other goods, and is in fact facilitating the transfer of massive amounts of humanitarian aid every day - goods that the residents of Gaza are receiving for free, that is if Hamas would stop stealing them.

    Halevi also responded to claims that even if Israel's blockade is not causing starvation, it has essentially created a well-stocked prison for 1.5 million Palestinians. Halevi noted that the border crossings of Gaza are not nor have they ever been closed to either the exit or entry of local Palestinians. Of course, since foreign nations sit on the other side of those crossings, coordination with their authorities is required, but that is not different than the citizen of any other nation requiring a visa to visit a neighboring state.

    Over the past five years, Israel and Egypt have approved 98 percent of permit requests to cross the Gaza border. In 2009, 10,544 Palestinians left Gaza for medical treatment in Israel, 147 students went abroad for studies, 374 Christians left Gaza to celebrate Christmas in Israel and Bethlehem, and Gaza-based members of the Palestinian soccer team regularly exited the coastal strip to participate in matches with foreign teams. The very few rejections are the only cases that receive media coverage, however.

    Read Halevi's full report here: ICA - Wechsler Family Foundation-Palestinians-The Myth of the Siege of Gaza

    Starving Gaza? 'Don't Believe The Hype'.
    I was sent one of those email circulars this week mocking the media’s portrayal of Gaza.

    This one was in French. Under the title ‘Gaza Affame’ or ‘Starving Gaza’ and alongside captions like ‘Gaza, une prison a ciel ouvert!’ (Gaza, an open air prison!), were a series of pictures showing smiling Gazans living the good life.



    The shops are full, market stalls groan under the weight of sweets, fruit, herbs and spices. Grinning children play in the sea, girls make sandcastles.



    They’re not starving in Gaza, seemed the message. Look, they’re even smiling.
    Then there were three photos of starving babies in India, Africa and Latin America. ‘Now that’s what I call real suffering’, seems the gist.

    It is a familiar propaganda ruse of course. Set up a false claim and skewer it.

    Noone says the Gazans are starving. Nor that they are incapable of smiling or trying to escape from their hardship with the odd trip to the beach.

    But this is what the UN says is happening in Gaza and you can judge for yourself whether it constitutes a humanitarian crisis.

    Eighty percent of Gazans suffer the indignity of having to queue for food aid, ‘not because they want to,’ as UNRWA Gaza chief John Ging puts it but because ‘their economy has been completely destroyed’.

    The UN needs to build a hundred schools and has not been able to for four years, because Israel will not allow cement in, because of security concerns.

    Ninety percent of school buildings are used in shifts. One group of students use them in the morning, another in the afternoon.

    So pupils only get half the classroom time they need and forty thousand fail basic Arabic and maths every year. Teachers have not been able to take holidays for three years.

    90 percent of water does not meet WHO drinking standards.

    Millions of cubic litres of untreated sewage is pumped into the sea every day because Israel will not allow in the cement to build and repair treatment plants (surely a crisis for Gaza’s neighbours too).

    And there is what we found on a tour of two Gazan hospitals today. In Rantissi Children’s hospital, the head of the diagnostics laboratory told me today he cannot perform a number of tests for leukaemia and blood disorders because of a lack of chemical and instruments all held up in Israel.

    Upstairs in the intensive care unit, doctors say at least one child died this week because two mechanical ventilators are broken because Israel will not allow in spare parts to fix them.

    The head of oncology says he has an urgent need for Lomustine, an essential cancer drug. The hospital’s CT scanner has been out of action for weeks because of a lack of spare parts.

    In Shifa Hospital’s intensive care unit blood diagnostics machines cannot be used because of a lack of reagents and spare parts.

    Israel announced this week it will ease its blockade to allow in more snack foods. Crisps, biscuits and Coca-Cola. But cement and spare parts for electric appliances will remain severely restricted.

    Israeli Government spokesman Mark Regev told Sky News he will investigate the drugs shortages

    ‘There are no restrictions whatsoever supplying medicines to the people of Gaza. If there are shortages of particular items I want to hear about them and my government will act to facilitate the transfer of medicines into Gaza.’

    Starving Gaza? 'Don't Believe The Hype'. | Gaza | blockade | Israel | Middle East Blog | Sky News Blogs
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  7. tsalkonocii
    Offline

    tsalkonocii BANNED

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2010
    Messages:
    111
    Thanks Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +8
    Are the Israeli's starving? Why do we send them billions ever year?
     
  8. RetiredGySgt
    Offline

    RetiredGySgt Platinum Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2007
    Messages:
    39,520
    Thanks Received:
    5,898
    Trophy Points:
    1,140
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Ratings:
    +8,931
    That is EXACTLY the point, you liars claim they are deprived of food, medicine and other goods and you repeat it over and over.

    It is infact one of the claims of the supposed freedom flotilla. All it is is a bunch of LIES.
     
  9. tsalkonocii
    Offline

    tsalkonocii BANNED

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2010
    Messages:
    111
    Thanks Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +8
    Any evidence the flotilla had weapons on it?

    No?


    Why block spices and fresh meat?
     
  10. tsalkonocii
    Offline

    tsalkonocii BANNED

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2010
    Messages:
    111
    Thanks Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +8

Share This Page