My Thread about News Corp: The Potential Fallout

[Si modo]

So, everyone seems very enthusiastic (and with good reason) to see Murdoch and his empire destroyed.

I wondered what exactly the impact of destroying that empire would be. Firstly, we need to know what exactly this 'News Corp' is... what does it own, and where does it own it. So, here:

Television:

Networks: Fox, MyNetworkTV. In the United States, News Corp. owns 27 television stations.

Cable: Fox Business Channel, Fox Movie Channel, Fox News Channel, Fox College Sports, Fox Regional Sports Networks (16 owned and operated), Fox Sports En Espanol, Fox Sports Net, Fox Soccer Channel, Fox Reality, Premier Media Group (Australia 50%), Premium Movie Partnership (Australia 20%), Cine Canal (Latin America 23%), Telecine (Latin America 13%), FUEL TV, FX, FX HD, National Geographic Channel (US 67% and Worldwide 52%), National Geographic Channel HD, SPEED Channel, SPEED HD, Big Ten Network & Big Ten Network HD (49%), Premier Media Group (Australia 50%).

Production and Distribution Companies: Fox Television Studios, Fox Home Entertainment, 20th Century Fox Television, 20th Television, Regency Television (50%).

Satellite Television: Fox International owns 120 channels around the world.

Europe: SKY Italia includes Sky Sport, Sky Calcio, Sky Cinema, Sky TG 24, Premiere AG (25%). British Sky Broadcasting (39%) includes Sky News, Sky Sports, Sky Travel, Sky One, Sky Movies, Artsworld. News Corp. also owns Balkan News Corporation.

Latin America:LAPTV (33%), Telecine (13%).

Asia: STAR Channels, Space TV (India DBS 20%), Phoenix Satellite Television (18%), Hathway Cable and Datacom (22%), China Network Systems (17 affiliated cable systems), Vijay, Xing Kong Channel , ESPN Star Sports (50%), ANTV (20%), TATA Sky (20%).

Australia & New Zealand: Sky Network Television Limited (44%), FOXTEL (25%).

Programming: Fox Sports, Special Report with Brit Hume, Fox Report with Shepard Smith, On the Record With Greta Van Susteren, Fox News Sunday, The O’Reilly Factor, Fox Pan American Sports (38%).

Publishing:

Magazines: Barron’s, SmartMoney (50%), Big League, InsideOut, donna hay, News America Marketing (In-Store, FSI (SmartSource), SmartSource iGroup, News Marketing Canada), Alpha, The Weekly Standard, The Weekend Australian Magazine, sundaymagazine, body + soul, STM (WA), home, TVGuide, News Magazine (Australia).

Newspapers:
Australia/Asia: More than 150 titles including: The Wall Street Journal Asia, the Fiji Times, Daily Telegraph, Nai Lalakai, Shanti Dut, Gold Coast Bulletin, Herald Sun, Newsphotos, Newspix, Newstext, NT News, Papua New Guinea Post-Courier (63%), Sunday Herald Sun, Sunday Mail, Sunday Tasmanian, Sunday Times, Sunday Territorian, The Advertiser, The Australian, The Courier-Mail, The Mercury, News Limited, The Sunday Mail, The Sunday Telegraph, Weekly Times, The Weekend Australian, MX, Brisbane News, Northern Territory News, Cumberland (NSW), Leader (VIC), Quest (QLD), Messenger (SA), Community (WA), Darwin Sun/Palmerson Sun (NT).

United Kingdom: Now defunct News of the World, The Sun, The Sunday Times, The Times, News International.

United States: Newspaper holdings include the Wall Street Journal, the New York Post, MarketWatch and Dow Jones Newswire; News Corp. also acquired the Ottoway group of community newspapers through its takeover of Dow Jones in 2007.

Books: HarperCollins Publishers.

Film:

Production and Distribution: Fox Film Entertainment: 20th Century Fox Film Corporation, Fox 2000 Pictures, 20th Century Fox Espanol, 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment, 20th Century Fox Licensing and Merchandising, 20th Century Fox International, Fox Atomic, Blue Sky Studios, Fox Searchlight Pictures, Fox Music, Fox Studios Australia, Fox Studios Baja (Latin America), Canal Fox (Latin America), Balaji Telefilms (26%, Asia), 20th Century Fox Animation.

Online:

Fox Interactive Media manages Fox’s online holdings, which include MySpace.com, Scout.com (a college sports site), ign.com (Internet gaming), Simply Hired (an online job search site), FoxSports.com, Fox News.com, Fox.com, Intermix, IGN.com, IGN.com.au, NYPost.com, MSN.Foxsports.com, WeeklyStandard.com, Broadsystem.com, NewsOptimus.co.uk, NewsOutdoor.com, RottenTomatoes, Fox.com, AmericanIdol.com, MarketWatch.com, Photobucket.com, Hulu.com (45%), jamster.com (51%), askmen.com, whatifsports.com, ksolo.com, springwidgets.com, flecktor.com milkround.com, nds.com, newsoutdoor.com, wsj.com, dowjones.com, barrons.com.

News Corp. also owns News Digital Media (a group of Australian Web sites). Mobile Web sites include Fox Business and Fox News. Fox is also now offering a mobile entertainment package called Mobizzo on Cingular and T-Mobile phones.

Other:

Outdoor advertising: News Outdoor.

Sports: National Rugby League.

Europe: NDS (72%), News Outdoor Group.

Misc.: Fox Sports Enterprises, National Advertising Partners, Media Support Services Limited (Russia), STATS LLC (50%).

Source: Ownership Chart: The Big Six | Free Press


Ok. So that's quite a substantial company. From there, what else would we need to consider:

How many people would lose their jobs if News Corp was destoyed?
How many supply chain jobs would be lost?
How much revenue would be lost?
How much tax money would be lost? (Bear in mind that each of their employees pays tax somewhere)
How many countries would that affect?

There are a few more questions, but I'm kind of hoping that people will think logically before running off at the mouth about destroying this 'evil' corporation. Think. Preferably critically, instead of partisanly.

i don't think anyone has issue with his film holdings and sports holdings, etc. He should just be out of the propaganda business. And his "news" holdings should be supervised to make sure they actually learn journalistic standards.

Supervised. Hmmm, by the government?

 

[California Girl]

So, everyone seems very enthusiastic (and with good reason) to see Murdoch and his empire destroyed.

I wondered what exactly the impact of destroying that empire would be. Firstly, we need to know what exactly this 'News Corp' is... what does it own, and where does it own it. So, here:

Television:

Networks: Fox, MyNetworkTV. In the United States, News Corp. owns 27 television stations.

Cable: Fox Business Channel, Fox Movie Channel, Fox News Channel, Fox College Sports, Fox Regional Sports Networks (16 owned and operated), Fox Sports En Espanol, Fox Sports Net, Fox Soccer Channel, Fox Reality, Premier Media Group (Australia 50%), Premium Movie Partnership (Australia 20%), Cine Canal (Latin America 23%), Telecine (Latin America 13%), FUEL TV, FX, FX HD, National Geographic Channel (US 67% and Worldwide 52%), National Geographic Channel HD, SPEED Channel, SPEED HD, Big Ten Network & Big Ten Network HD (49%), Premier Media Group (Australia 50%).

Production and Distribution Companies: Fox Television Studios, Fox Home Entertainment, 20th Century Fox Television, 20th Television, Regency Television (50%).

Satellite Television: Fox International owns 120 channels around the world.

Europe: SKY Italia includes Sky Sport, Sky Calcio, Sky Cinema, Sky TG 24, Premiere AG (25%). British Sky Broadcasting (39%) includes Sky News, Sky Sports, Sky Travel, Sky One, Sky Movies, Artsworld. News Corp. also owns Balkan News Corporation.

Latin America:LAPTV (33%), Telecine (13%).

Asia: STAR Channels, Space TV (India DBS 20%), Phoenix Satellite Television (18%), Hathway Cable and Datacom (22%), China Network Systems (17 affiliated cable systems), Vijay, Xing Kong Channel , ESPN Star Sports (50%), ANTV (20%), TATA Sky (20%).

Australia & New Zealand: Sky Network Television Limited (44%), FOXTEL (25%).

Programming: Fox Sports, Special Report with Brit Hume, Fox Report with Shepard Smith, On the Record With Greta Van Susteren, Fox News Sunday, The O’Reilly Factor, Fox Pan American Sports (38%).

Publishing:

Magazines: Barron’s, SmartMoney (50%), Big League, InsideOut, donna hay, News America Marketing (In-Store, FSI (SmartSource), SmartSource iGroup, News Marketing Canada), Alpha, The Weekly Standard, The Weekend Australian Magazine, sundaymagazine, body + soul, STM (WA), home, TVGuide, News Magazine (Australia).

Newspapers:
Australia/Asia: More than 150 titles including: The Wall Street Journal Asia, the Fiji Times, Daily Telegraph, Nai Lalakai, Shanti Dut, Gold Coast Bulletin, Herald Sun, Newsphotos, Newspix, Newstext, NT News, Papua New Guinea Post-Courier (63%), Sunday Herald Sun, Sunday Mail, Sunday Tasmanian, Sunday Times, Sunday Territorian, The Advertiser, The Australian, The Courier-Mail, The Mercury, News Limited, The Sunday Mail, The Sunday Telegraph, Weekly Times, The Weekend Australian, MX, Brisbane News, Northern Territory News, Cumberland (NSW), Leader (VIC), Quest (QLD), Messenger (SA), Community (WA), Darwin Sun/Palmerson Sun (NT).

United Kingdom: Now defunct News of the World, The Sun, The Sunday Times, The Times, News International.

United States: Newspaper holdings include the Wall Street Journal, the New York Post, MarketWatch and Dow Jones Newswire; News Corp. also acquired the Ottoway group of community newspapers through its takeover of Dow Jones in 2007.

Books: HarperCollins Publishers.

Film:

Production and Distribution: Fox Film Entertainment: 20th Century Fox Film Corporation, Fox 2000 Pictures, 20th Century Fox Espanol, 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment, 20th Century Fox Licensing and Merchandising, 20th Century Fox International, Fox Atomic, Blue Sky Studios, Fox Searchlight Pictures, Fox Music, Fox Studios Australia, Fox Studios Baja (Latin America), Canal Fox (Latin America), Balaji Telefilms (26%, Asia), 20th Century Fox Animation.

Online:

Fox Interactive Media manages Fox’s online holdings, which include MySpace.com, Scout.com (a college sports site), ign.com (Internet gaming), Simply Hired (an online job search site), FoxSports.com, Fox News.com, Fox.com, Intermix, IGN.com, IGN.com.au, NYPost.com, MSN.Foxsports.com, WeeklyStandard.com, Broadsystem.com, NewsOptimus.co.uk, NewsOutdoor.com, RottenTomatoes, Fox.com, AmericanIdol.com, MarketWatch.com, Photobucket.com, Hulu.com (45%), jamster.com (51%), askmen.com, whatifsports.com, ksolo.com, springwidgets.com, flecktor.com milkround.com, nds.com, newsoutdoor.com, wsj.com, dowjones.com, barrons.com.

News Corp. also owns News Digital Media (a group of Australian Web sites). Mobile Web sites include Fox Business and Fox News. Fox is also now offering a mobile entertainment package called Mobizzo on Cingular and T-Mobile phones.

Other:

Outdoor advertising: News Outdoor.

Sports: National Rugby League.

Europe: NDS (72%), News Outdoor Group.

Misc.: Fox Sports Enterprises, National Advertising Partners, Media Support Services Limited (Russia), STATS LLC (50%).

Source: Ownership Chart: The Big Six | Free Press


Ok. So that's quite a substantial company. From there, what else would we need to consider:

How many people would lose their jobs if News Corp was destoyed?
How many supply chain jobs would be lost?
How much revenue would be lost?
How much tax money would be lost? (Bear in mind that each of their employees pays tax somewhere)
How many countries would that affect?

There are a few more questions, but I'm kind of hoping that people will think logically before running off at the mouth about destroying this 'evil' corporation. Think. Preferably critically, instead of partisanly.

i don't think anyone has issue with his film holdings and sports holdings, etc. He should just be out of the propaganda business. And his "news" holdings should be supervised to make sure they actually learn journalistic standards.

Supervised. Hmmm, by the government?

Yea, cuz they're real trustworthy.

 

[MarcATL]

Meanwhile, Rupert just doesn't seem to get it.

Rupert Murdoch, News Corp. CEO, Meets with Family of Milly Dowler - ABC News

This media baron's priorities are SERIOUSLY screwed up.

 

[California Girl]

Meanwhile, Rupert just doesn't seem to get it.

Rupert Murdoch, News Corp. CEO, Meets with Family of Milly Dowler - ABC News

This media baron's priorities are SERIOUSLY screwed up.

And this is an issue.... because?

 

[Si modo]

i don't think anyone has issue with his film holdings and sports holdings, etc. He should just be out of the propaganda business. And his "news" holdings should be supervised to make sure they actually learn journalistic standards.

Supervised. Hmmm, by the government?

Yea, cuz they're real trustworthy.

Right and it shoots any idea about a free press out the window.

 

[MarcATL]

Meanwhile, Rupert just doesn't seem to get it.

Rupert Murdoch, News Corp. CEO, Meets with Family of Milly Dowler - ABC News

This media baron's priorities are SERIOUSLY screwed up.

And this is an issue.... because?

I'd explain it to you, but it would just be a COLOSSAL waste of time on my part.

 

[California Girl]

I do use pseudonyms.

Who cares if I have even written 'articles'? It's nothing to do with you. Any more than your career is anything to do with me. I don't give a rats ass what you do.... you should mind your own business about what I do.

I'm not here using my career to buttress my arguments, like you. Big difference, Ms. Steuben.

If Murdoch committed a crime he should be prosecuted and if his empire falls....so be it

We saw the same thing with Bernie Madoff. Nobody is too big to prosecute

I don't disagree... what I'm wondering is.... other than prosecuting him - as an individual - but if, as seems to be the agenda of the left, what you really want is to destroy Fox News... what price are y'all prepared to pay? So far, there has been no accusation (other than hysterical ranting) against Fox.

Really?

Hmmm...that's funny.

Where?

Can you produce ONE post from this thread proving that?

You actually want me to go and get links to your own posts? Seriously, you need help. Or, you could take a read of Sythnia's... he's done a few.... or that PussBall or whatever his name is. Take your pick.... just review your own posts. Fool.

 

[MarcATL]

I'm not here using my career to buttress my arguments, like you. Big difference, Ms. Steuben.

I don't disagree... what I'm wondering is.... other than prosecuting him - as an individual - but if, as seems to be the agenda of the left, what you really want is to destroy Fox News... what price are y'all prepared to pay? So far, there has been no accusation (other than hysterical ranting) against Fox.

Really?

Hmmm...that's funny.

Where?

Can you produce ONE post from this thread proving that?

You actually want me to go and get links to your own posts? Seriously, you need help. Or, you could take a read of Sythnia's... he's done a few.... or that PussBall or whatever his name is. Take your pick.... just review your own posts. Fool.

It doesn't work that way goofball.

Present EVIDENCE...PROOF!!

Ya big, dumb jaggoff!!!!

 

[manifold]

I still don't get the point of Calitwat's whine fest here.

She starts the thread cautioning about potential consequences of going after Murdoch. How many people will end up homeless, living in the streets, giving out handjobs for food if Rupert the great job creator gets prosecuted??? No opinions of course, just questions. Then when pressed, she says 'if he's guilty' throw the book at him.

So what the fuck is she bitching about again?

 

[Andaluz]

i don't think anyone has issue with his film holdings and sports holdings, etc. He should just be out of the propaganda business. And his "news" holdings should be supervised to make sure they actually learn journalistic standards.

Supervised. Hmmm, by the government?

Yea, cuz they're real trustworthy.

Well, clearly more trustworthy than News Corp/News Intl.

 

[MarcATL]

I still don't get the point of Calitwat's whine fest here.

She starts the thread cautioning about potential consequences of going after Murdoch. How many people will end up homeless, living in the streets, giving out handjobs for food if Rupert the great job creator gets prosecuted??? No opinions of course, just questions. Then when pressed, she says 'if he's guilty' throw the book at him.

So what the fuck is she bitching about again?

Her siggy's a massive clue as to why.

 

[theliq]

There is something wrong with this abusive right wingnut Tanderson.....thats the trouble with him everything is left or right.....Murdoch is a manipulating individual because he's got loads of money moreover because of his position and behaviour,he though he was above the law...he isn't,this whole situation has arisen because he is not a decent person.

In Australia we have a saying "A FISH ALWAYS STINKS AT THE HEAD FIRST"......something the likes of Tanderson should absorb and remember.theliq

Murdoch has been caught out and is now paying the price.....

Bullshit.

Murdoch has not be "caught out" at anything but public opinion based on nothing but pure hate and guilt by association.

Don't even talk about facts, since you have never listed any but the above opinion. Which, as is still self evident, is way far biased.

Opinion is not fact. Not evidence. It's nothing but personal.

Go watch your toilet flush backward. There's more truth and fact in that than there ever has been in any of your postings.

T.

When it comes to the Rightwing, the buck never stops at the top.