Muslim Terrorist In Ohio Takes Apartment Complex Hostage, And Then Opens Fire On Police Officer

[emilynghiem]

It's time deport these jihadist bastards immediately! They are unstable and can't handle Western society in any form or fashion. Their cult religion prevents it.


Muslim Terrorist In Ohio Takes Apartment Complex Hostage, And Then Opens Fire On American Police Officer

Dear Steve_McGarrett and The Great Goose
Why not require all immigrants to become legal wards under the guardianship and insurance of their Sponsors?

So sure, if the Catholic church sponsors workers, they are legally responsible for screening these applicants themselves
and not just rely on INS alone. If a mistake is made in judgment, as even happens with the military as in the case of the Ft. Hood Shooter who should have been screened
out and flagged as a Jihadist-sympathizer, then the sponsoring group or person pays the financial, legal and restitution damages to the victims if a crime is committed.

If no one wants to underwrite and take that responsibility, then the person can't be approved.

If a City has "sanctuary" policies, then that City is responsible for insurance to cover damages committed by any criminals they fail to screen out.
And if taxpayers don't want to pay this, then they should demand the same, that any organization that sponsors such individuals should be responsible, not them.

What do you think?
Of requiring a guardian to sign for legal and financial responsibility for either
* immigrants applying for citizenship
* citizens turning 18 and claiming privileges of citizenship
so that everyone who is legally competent agrees to pay for their own costs if convicted of crimes,
and for people who are not legally competent, a sponsor agrees to sign for these costs.

Would that deter crime if people cannot afford the costs.

It fails on two levels.
1, Do you really want to be the one that walks up and tells a victims family "Sorry, but here's a check".
OR
2, Islam has pumped close to 100 million dollars into Hillary alone.
The terrorists are not short of money. As a matter of fact these are some of the richest terrorists the world has ever dealt with.

Dear DarkFury the point is deterrence not after the fact.
If sponsors have to sign against their citizenship, they'd be careful who they sign off for.

For damages like property that can be replaced, sure, money can work to cover that cost.

If you are talking about terrorist attacks that harm communities and national security,
that level of negligence might qualify for deportation and losing citizenship.

For example, if it is true that Clinton's emails got hacked and got Ambassador Stevens killed, along with the other service staff,
then I'd recommend a settlement agreement such as setting up 4 cities across the border as restitution for their deaths,
and have Clinton serve there for the number of years it takes to make these viable safe communities, including military bases for protection,
as alternatives for immigrant/workers to claim residence and for refugees to find safe haven without jeopardizing national security.
If she is guilty of infractions but lies she can get citizenship revoked if there was murder/capital offenses involved, and/or lose the right to serve in office if there were infractions against govt fiduciary duty or lying to jeopardize national security; as long as she cooperates with authorities then she can retain citizenship while serving restitution. The point is we need to start basing citizenship on enforcing laws, and have conditions where they can be revoked; and agree on the process and standards so these are enforced consistently.

It's too late, we have a runaway government that feels they don't have to answer to the people anymore. They do what they want. Maybe after the inevitable revolution you can suggest that be put into the next Constitution. That's the only way it would ever happen. Sorry to be so cynical but that train done left the station.

Dear S.J. This IS the next revolution. We're in the middle of it.
The same way the Reformation happened when the PEOPLE rose up against the
corrupt church authority, and said NO you don't decide the rules, they are written in the scriptures,
and the PEOPLE started interpreting and enforcing the laws for themselves DIRECTLY,

the SAME thing is happening with the corrupt state authority,
where people have BEEN Rising up and saying NO if you don't follow the laws you don't have authority.
The Libertarians were arguing the fed and irs are not constitutional.
The Tea Party rose up and started waving the Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence.

The only thing missing with Trump is he isn't checking govt against the Constitution but his own business sense. We need to do both, use common sense but also CITE the laws and hold govt to them.

Instead of fighting FOR civil rights by acting out of civil disobedience,
this time it's fighting AGAINST civil wrongs by pushing FOR civil OBEDIENCE.

The same thing is happening with the state as with the church:
Teach people to read and interpret the laws for themselves,
and they no longer depend on corrupt party or govt leaders to read or rule on the laws FOR them.

This IS the same process of liberation, of "reformation" that happened with
the people becoming liberated from Catholic authority and having freedom to set up their own churches.
But now it will be happening with the people liberated from false govt authority
and exercising freedom to invest in our own business coops, school districts, cities and states.
We can still be under one union and one law, but will not need to rely on top down management by mandates from federal govt which is the same problem that corrupted churches with this imbalance of power.

 

[S.J.]

Dear S.J. This IS the next revolution. We're in the middle of it.

When it's over, the winner can set the new rules. You're trying to put the cart before the horse.

 

[Conservative65]

It's time deport these jihadist bastards immediately! They are unstable and can't handle Western society in any form or fashion. Their cult religion prevents it.


Muslim Terrorist In Ohio Takes Apartment Complex Hostage, And Then Opens Fire On American Police Officer

Dear Steve_McGarrett and The Great Goose
Why not require all immigrants to become legal wards under the guardianship and insurance of their Sponsors?

So sure, if the Catholic church sponsors workers, they are legally responsible for screening these applicants themselves
and not just rely on INS alone. If a mistake is made in judgment, as even happens with the military as in the case of the Ft. Hood Shooter who should have been screened
out and flagged as a Jihadist-sympathizer, then the sponsoring group or person pays the financial, legal and restitution damages to the victims if a crime is committed.

If no one wants to underwrite and take that responsibility, then the person can't be approved.

If a City has "sanctuary" policies, then that City is responsible for insurance to cover damages committed by any criminals they fail to screen out.
And if taxpayers don't want to pay this, then they should demand the same, that any organization that sponsors such individuals should be responsible, not them.

What do you think?
Of requiring a guardian to sign for legal and financial responsibility for either
* immigrants applying for citizenship
* citizens turning 18 and claiming privileges of citizenship
so that everyone who is legally competent agrees to pay for their own costs if convicted of crimes,
and for people who are not legally competent, a sponsor agrees to sign for these costs.

Would that deter crime if people cannot afford the costs.

No Emily. It's time to stop giving options to keep these type people in our country. It's time to get rid of them so our quality of life can return without fear of these people going full jihad on an impulsive whim.

Yes Steve_McGarrett and to do that LEGALLY,
so that ALL people who are criminal get screened out,
that's what I'm saying -- set up and enforce rules
where people are compelled to take legal AND financial responsibility.

Add and enforce requirements where people responsible for TRAFFICKING
pay restitution into building production factories, schools and services
on the Mexican side of the border. So immigrant/workers don't have to
cross illegally to get to these opportunities that are provided right there.

We have to address the DEMAND also.
People wouldn't depend on coming to America if they had opportunities
in their home countries. Why not require this as restitution from immigrants
who broke federal immigration, labor or other laws -- where in relation to their crimes,
they invest a "proportional amount" of labor and resources into building sustainable
economies and communities in Mexico or their own homelands that were so lacking.
Earned Amnesty

Our government won't make it's own citizens be financially responsible for their decisions. Do you think they'll enforce non citizens to do so?