Brain357
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And similar polls said Hillary would win.You think the cdc made up that 1.1 number? Now that is funny.Are you saying that the CDC has an imagination?You have some imagination.Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives.....and as more Americans over the last 26 years have owned and carried guns...our accidental gun death rate has gone down, not up........lives saved, tragedies stopped........
600 million guns in private hands, likely more......320 million people ......
Accidental gun deaths? 486
Accidental car deaths? 38,659
Fatal Injury Data | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC
2017 accidental gun death.....486
Guns....486
Cars....38,659
I am saying that the number 1.1 million isn't just the Defensive Sillyvillian shootings. I have seen that report and those numbers come from all sources including military and police shootings across the globe. But if you read Klecks report he inflates them further to 2.3 million. What the real number is, no one really knows. The Law Enforcements aren't releasing that number (actually, they have no way of really knowing) and CDC got out of that business because of people like Kleck trying to use their data to prove something it didn't say. Now, if you can present the "So Called" CDC report that states that there were 1.1 million defensive Civilian Shooting preventions then do so. But don't use anything based on Kleck which everything that's been presented to day refers right back to kleck.
You are a moron.....
A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....
The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....
GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense
GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys
Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)
DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)
L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)
Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)
CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)
Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million
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Bordua...1977...1,414,544
DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)
Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)
Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)
Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)
DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)
Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."
(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])
Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer
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Ohio...1982...771,043
Gallup...1991...777,152
Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)
Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..
What we get for all our guns are homicide rates 4-5 times higher than countries with strong gun control. And that's with the highest incarceration rate in the world! They don't even have to lock so many people up to have homicide rates a fraction of ours.