Morality of Wealth Redistribution

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    So RW, government does not redistribute wealth. But it does redistribute wealth, from the poor to the wealthy. you want to make government that is stealing with the poor and giving to the rich stronger because you are opposed to what they are doing and you want more of it.

    That sounds right to rdean who stuck his hand down your pants to express his approval.

    One question RW. So how do you explain if you're being robbed why you are living on checks of other people's money sent to you by government?
     
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    There are some people who are legitimately concerned about the wealth of the .01%. Others are just jealous. But what few of them recognize is, no matter how much wealth the most wealthy accumulated, it doesn't detract a single penny from the less wealthy. Wealth is not a zero sum game many would like us believe.

    One of the primary purpose of government is to protect private property, even the property of the wealthy.
     
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    I can't work out who's saying what. :cool-45:
     
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    Corporate Incentives

    Here's a note:

    It seems that our modern world of globalization not only brings up concerns about wealth redistribution, but it also raises questions about the effect of potential unhappiness created by wealth iniquities.

    Many people feel that terrorism is a direct effect of the anger towards disproportionate distribution of resources in our supposedly globalizing free market. After all, why did the Taliban attack the World Trade Center in New York City in 2001?

    Many ideas about balancing finances have been circulated --- debt forgiveness programs, 5-year repayment plans, national unions, etc.

    A new idea that has been receiving some attention is renewable energy research which has the potential of creating profitable and beneficial alliances between OPEC and Western oil companies such as BP (British Petroleum).

    If companies create allianes, governments could follow suit, which in turn can benefit companies socially. We may see wealth redistribution as a simple effect of trade, perhaps even assuaging fears that Wall Street is creating imposing werewolves.
     
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    So seriously, you think the Islamic fundamentalists who do most of the terrorism in the world are actually doing it because they are socialists and not for religion?

    It's a fascinating theory, but how can you possibly support that?
     
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    OK. That was easy.

    Now, what defines " moderation" is where the hard part comes in. E.g., mid 1990s welfare reform was deemed " cruel and heartless" by critics ( including Hillary) of the law, the results of the ROLLBACK of redistribution were mostly very positive in improving the lots and lives of many hitherto welfare recipients.

    Stipulating that a certain level is both moral and necessary, is easy. GOP define success by fewer dependents on the government and the Dems count success by its expansion. Simple. And there's the political fight.

    This is why we need a less biased and more responsible press. When the GOP are demagogued as " heartless" for daring to reform entitlements, or to cut the rate of growth of discretionary spending, and waging a "war" on women for asking that some women pay for their own birth control ?

    There is NO hope for a meaningful compromise that makes sense .
     
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    fanaticism and

    Good Lord. Economics was NOT in play as the hijackers screamed Allahu Akbar! It is about a perversion of a age old reading of the Koran. It is fanatical, warped, ignorant religious fanaticism and zealotry.

    Economic protesters would kidnap and extort money, not destroy and kill knowing that said attack will produce a military response and kill thousands of their fellow fanatics.
     
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    Are you sure about that? Maybe Allahu Akbar means feed the people you greedy wealthy capitalists
     
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    What?

    It means ( +/-) "God is Great!"


    And the act committed was ostensibly in his name .

    If you think the meaning was to feed the poor? I'd think the House of Saud and any and all of the oil rich kleptocracies of the region would attract suicide bombings before we would.

    The opulence of the Kingdoms , based on stolen oil resources and wealth, amid the poverty of the area, is so obvious that it begs the larger question of why the Arab despots don't spend more of their wealth on FOOD from the greedy multinational, "greedy , wealthy capitalist" food companies operating in Europe and the USA.

    No, the USA is the Great Satan as the ultimate proxy/symbol of secularism and individual freedom. It's not complicated. It's on HBO and Showtime.
     
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    You need to read the conversation better. First of all, you're arguing with he wrong guy, I am not the one who claimed most terrorism is over economics, I actually disagreed with that. Second of all, you're not detecting overt sarcasm. You may want to click the needle on your sarcasm detector, I think it's stuck.
     

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