Models Fail so badly NOAA now looking at reality......

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    You cant make this stuff up. Now NOAA is admitting their climate modeling programs run 5+ degrees C hotter than reality. And they DON'T KNOW WHY...

    The Warming Meme is collapsing and cooling in all records is now evident by empirical observations. They can no longer hide their AGW failure. There is panic in the AGW political gamer's and they are now desperate to explain it away.

    Climate Modellers Waiting for Observations to Catch Up with Their Predictions
     
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    False.
    Models have always been expected to not be accurate.
    That is because they assume everything else is static other than the CO2 emissions increase.
    And there are several obvious variables.
    For example, the higher the CO2 concentrations, the more CO2 will be absorbed by expanded plant growth.
    Another is that this also includes possible increase in carbonate shell production, like plankton.
    Finally, it also depends on things like volcanoes and landslides, because fresh rock is known to absorb lots of CO2.
    Another is that with warming air, you get more water vapor, and that can end up producing more clouds, which can then block more sunlight and cause cooling.
    All of these variables had been considered ahead of time, and everyone expected the models to need works.
    Models are never the basis for predictions or concerns.
    All we need to do is extrapolate existing data graphs to get really worried.
     
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    "Many scientists are skeptical, pointing out that past climate changes recorded in ice cores and elsewhere don’t support the high climate sensitivity —nor does the pace of modern warming. The results so far are “not sufficient to convince me,” says Kate Marvel, a climate scientist at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York City. In the effort to account for atmospheric components that are too small to directly simulate, like clouds, the new models could easily have strayed from reality, she says. “That’s always going to be a bumpy road.”"

    Even NASA is saying the models are crap...

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/04/new-climate-models-predict-warming-surge
     
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    The Science magazine article clearly identifies those discrepancies. Natural variation explains away your extrapolation worries as natural cycles.
     
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    The hordes of climate skeptics continues to grow. It's a beautiful thing.:rock::rock::popcorn:
     
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    I am amazed that NASA is now coming out and saying the models used to promote the hype are total BS.. And they are citing why they are BS... Refreshing to see the BS outed and sanity returned to real science.
     
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    Almost two decades ago I realized this whole global warming thing was the biggest crock of shit I had ever seen. If you had just a smidge of an ability to connect dots you could figure it out.

    Really think many just dont have the balls to step away from this social dogma.....much easier to conform to the established matrix.

    East Anglia clinched it for me....I mean, c'mon now. Anybody with half a brain knows the investigation was a sham.....or are very naive about what constitutes a legitimate investigation.
     
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    Have you noticed the lack of any of the usual left wing idiots? Did they shut down the AGW troll farm? I haven't seek Crick, Old Crock, or many of the others lately. I guess they were not being successful in propagating the AGW lie and got the boot... They must be looking for real jobs now... Sigh...
     
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    Not really, I think they went to the hospital, some using ambulances after their usual beatings they get here, those blood pressure readings must have gotten too high.

    They will be back soon, souped up with medications.
     
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    It's because this whole thread is so monumentally stupid we aren't really bothering.
     

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