Miranda rights for terrorists..

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    :doubt: In my book, when you commit a terrorist act, you must face the music and pay the ultimate price, and deal with what ever punishment comes your way.Like it or not.Terrorists are criminals and deserve nothing less than hanging, firing Squad or a life time stay in the Brig(Big House with bars.
     
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    Terrorists to get delayed Miranda warnings...
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    Federal Agents Told They Can Delay Miranda Warnings in Some Cases
    Thursday, March 24, 2011 Washington (AP) - The FBI has issued new guidance to its agents in terrorism investigations, emphasizing that law enforcement investigators can question suspected terrorists without immediately reading them their Miranda rights in some instances.
     
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    but don't you have to be adjudicated a terrorist first? it's kind of backward to say, well it hasn't been proven *yet* but you lose your rights... so then you can be adjudicated a terrorist without us following the rules.

    I do take issue with the shoot first, ask questions later mentality.
     
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    Good point. We could lose our rights just because someone in the government says so?

    Who could be a terrorist?

    Anyone who owns a gun?

    Anyone who quotes the constitution?
     
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    We aren't bullshitting about Gaza, are we?
     
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    The Magna Carta (1297)

    "...here is a law which is above the King and which even he must not break. This reaffirmation of a supreme law and its expression in a general charter is the great work of Magna Carta; and this alone justifies the respect in which men have held it.

    --Winston Churchill, 1956

    King John of England agreed, in 1215, to the demands of his barons and authorized that handwritten copies of Magna Carta be prepared on parchment, affixed with his seal, and publicly read throughout the realm. Thus he bound not only himself but his "heirs, for ever" to grant "to all freemen of our kingdom" the rights and liberties the great charter described. With Magna Carta, King John placed himself and England's future sovereigns and magistrates within the rule of law.

    When Englishmen left their homeland to establish colonies in the New World, they brought with them charters guaranteeing that they and their heirs would "have and enjoy all liberties and immunities of free and natural subjects." Scant generations later, when these American colonists raised arms against their mother country, they were fighting not for new freedoms but to preserve liberties that dated to the 13th century.

    When representatives of the young republic of the United States gathered to draft a constitution, they turned to the legal system they knew and admired--English common law as evolved from Magna Carta. The conceptual debt to the great charter is particularly obvious: the American Constitution is "the Supreme Law of the Land," just as the rights granted by Magna Carta were not to be arbitrarily canceled by subsequent English laws.

    This heritage is most clearly apparent in our Bill of Rights. The fifth amendment guarantees

    No person shall...be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law

    Written 575 years earlier, Magna Carta declares

    No freeman shall be taken, imprisoned,...or in any other way destroyed...except by the lawful judgment of his peers, or by the law of the land. To no one will we sell, to none will we deny or delay, right or justice.

    While the Great Charter does not speak to the right of counsel, our laws do and any suspension of habeas corpus puts all of us at risk. Better to offer the rights of man to all for if the evidence is properly collected and presented justice will be done, preventing any man from honestly questioning the values we hold true as Americans.
     
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    well, i wasn't referring to gaza. i was referring to our means of adjudicating terror suspects.

    i'm all for throwing away the key on anyone who's a terrorist, domestic or otherwise, but I think we have to play by the rules to get to the conclusion that they *are* terrorists.
     
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    I was referring to the US but rights should be universal.
     
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    Since you're a paedophile and a serial rapist, you don't deserve to be Mirandized

    How do I know you've raped 72 babies? Because I accuse you of it and that means you're guilty. You must face the music and pay the ultimate price, and deal with what ever punishment comes your way

    Also, you've been plotting to go on a shooting spree and kill as many Christians as possible.

    Don't listen to Jihad Brave, everyone. Jihad Brave is clearly a child-molesting rapist, serial killer, and terrorist. Surely, you aren't a terrorist-lover, are you? Brave deserves no miranda rights or trial. It's in the interest if national security, you see...
     
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    Innocent people are never accused, Jillian. Don't you understand anything about conservatism? Don't you love America?
     

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