Michigan's right-to-work laws will ripple across the US

[Lakhota]

Even many of the slow-minded NaziCons will see the light by 2014.

 

[Vanquish]

LOL

Yeah, we would hate to see a new flood of businesses moving in.

I honestly would love to understand why you think right-to-work is so amazing. In an economy where employers already have the vast advantage over employees, how is giving employers more power to treat workers poorly a step up?

Yeah, God forbid someone should actually be allowed to apply for a job and not have to be part of the union to get that job and hold on to that job. Unions are upset because they are on their out, more and more people are waking up and seeing them as part of the money laundering scheme for the Democrat Party and for the violent thugs they really are.

If one wants to join a unions, great, that is their choice. The problem is, people like you and those in unions think that joining a union should be the only option if you are to get a job. Contrary to your beliefs, that is not what this country was founded upon.

To error is human, to really screw things up requires the Democrat Party and unions.

First of all, you don't know shit about me. So slow your roll.

Second of all, you seem not to care about employees having some ACTUAL leverage against their bosses. If you did, then you could at least admit that unions have a valid purpose.

Third of all, if you really cared about what the Founding Fathers wanted...then the freedom to associate and the freedom to contract would mean something to you. People entering into contracts to multiply their power is EXACTLY what this country was founded on, buddy. The Constitution is the greatest social contact ever.


That's fine though. Fuck over the little guy. See where that gets the country.

 

[zonly1]

I honestly would love to understand why you think right-to-work is so amazing. In an economy where employers already have the vast advantage over employees, how is giving employers more power to treat workers poorly a step up?

Yeah, God forbid someone should actually be allowed to apply for a job and not have to be part of the union to get that job and hold on to that job. Unions are upset because they are on their out, more and more people are waking up and seeing them as part of the money laundering scheme for the Democrat Party and for the violent thugs they really are.

If one wants to join a unions, great, that is their choice. The problem is, people like you and those in unions think that joining a union should be the only option if you are to get a job. Contrary to your beliefs, that is not what this country was founded upon.

To error is human, to really screw things up requires the Democrat Party and unions.

First of all, you don't know shit about me. So slow your roll.

Second of all, you seem not to care about employees having some ACTUAL leverage against their bosses. If you did, then you could at least admit that unions have a valid purpose.

Third of all, if you really cared about what the Founding Fathers wanted...then the freedom to associate and the freedom to contract would mean something to you. People entering into contracts to multiply their power is EXACTLY what this country was founded on, buddy. The Constitution is the greatest social contact ever.


That's fine though. Fuck over the little guy. See where that gets the country.

Fokk the unions...are we clear? Your talking points are a dime a dozen when it comes to TAXPAYERS EXPENSE and we are tired of your worn out ..that company still makes a profit. Half truths/lies will never make your case.

 

[FNRPcandidate16]

Unions are the redistributive bootjack of progressive Marxist economic redistribution.

 

[tjvh]

The right-to-work push by NaziCons will likely backfire. Come on 2014...

As it backfired in Michigan?

 

[tjvh]

I think Lakota is right, the repubs pushed it in, even after broken promises. 2014 will see the dems control all 3 branches.

Obama is driving America over the fiscal cliff, and you think people aren't going to figure out who is at the wheel when their Taxes skyrocket? Nonsense.

 

[Old Rocks]

Ohio will easily pass right to work this fall.

It may, but I foresee widespread buyer's remorse by 2014 - and especially by 2016.

Yeah.. By the ones who gave Barack another term. They're gonna have serious buyer's remorse come 2016.

That was your chant in 2012. How did that work out for you?

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL

Yeah, we would hate to see a new flood of businesses moving in.

I honestly would love to understand why you think right-to-work is so amazing. In an economy where employers already have the vast advantage over employees, how is giving employers more power to treat workers poorly a step up?

Yeah, God forbid someone should actually be allowed to apply for a job and not have to be part of the union to get that job and hold on to that job. Unions are upset because they are on their out, more and more people are waking up and seeing them as part of the money laundering scheme for the Democrat Party and for the violent thugs they really are.

If one wants to join a unions, great, that is their choice. The problem is, people like you and those in unions think that joining a union should be the only option if you are to get a job. Contrary to your beliefs, that is not what this country was founded upon.

To error is human, to really screw things up requires the Democrat Party and unions.

Ever consider reading the history of this nation? Or would that just be too much for your little 'Conservative' what passes for a mind?

The first Continental Congress met in a union hall. Fact!

Carpenters' Hall, Philadelphia

A Rich History

The beautiful Georgian structure long known as Carpenters' Hall holds an important place in the history of the United States and its early formation. Situated near the more-often-visited Independence Hall, one can argue that this historic site is nearly of equal importance to its popular neighbor.

Carpenters' Hall


The building is named for the Carpenters' Company of the City and County of Philadelphia, the country’s oldest trade guild - established in 1724, which still owns and operates the site along with the National Park Service. The guild built the hall in 1770 based on designs by architect Robert Smith. The Company met annually in the hall and also allowed others to meet there.

In addition, the Library Company of Philadelphia, formed thirty years earlier by Ben Franklin and his cohorts, occupied the second floor of the building. Technically, this would become the first Library of Congress as use of the library was offered to the members of the First Continental Congress, held there in September 1774.


During the First Continental Congress, delegates made a list of the grievances of the Colonies against the King, and recommended that a Second Congress meet in May 1775 if issues were not solved. During the next year, numerous meetings took place there to discuss independence, including secret meetings with the French.


After war broke out, Carpenters' Hall was used as an infirmary and from Sept. 1777 to June 1778, was occupied by the British. After the war, it continued to be a meeting place for many local societies, including Franklin’s American Philosophical Society, which rented the first floor.

The Carpenters Guild, precursor to our present unions, was instrumental in founding this nation. Unions have a long and proud history in this nation. From Carpenter's Hall to Blair Mountain and Ludlow, they have bled and died for the rights of the workers to have a fair share in what they produce. That is now under attack by those that desire to go back to a feudal economy of serfs and lords.

It will not be permitted.

 

[SniperFire]

Unions are the redistributive bootjack of progressive Marxist economic redistribution.

Worker party solidarity!

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[spectrumc01]

Unions are the redistributive bootjack of progressive Marxist economic redistribution.

Worker party solidarity!

[youtube]J_uC0wy_O90[/youtube]

Did you forget that the Nazi's and the Communists hated one another? and now you want me to believe that they are the same system?

 

[SniperFire]

Unions are the redistributive bootjack of progressive Marxist economic redistribution.

Worker party solidarity!

[youtube]J_uC0wy_O90[/youtube]

Did you forget that the Nazi's and the Communists hated one another? and now you want me to believe that they are the same system?

Michigan and Ohio State hate one another too.

Was not the appeal of Nazi, Big Union and Communism organized around the appeal of the downtrodden working man to unite against their oppressors?

These are all Big Labor parties.

 

[spectrumc01]

The Michigan right to work law is inconsistant with it's idea. By being inconsistant it is wrong and unfair. Yes, it does allow workers to choose if they want to be in a union, but it also excludes the police and firemen's unions. The right to work does not apply to these two occupations. By making exceptions they have proved their own reasoning as false.

Michigan excludes police and fire unions from

 

[SniperFire]

The Michigan right to work law is inconsistant with it's idea. By being inconsistant it is wrong and unfair. Yes, it does allow workers to choose if they want to be in a union, but it also excludes the police and firemen's unions. The right to work does not apply to these two occupations. By making exceptions they have proved their own reasoning as false.

Michigan excludes police and fire unions from

Wrong. By making exceptions they have proved a political cowardice - or actually, a pragmatism.

 

[spectrumc01]

Worker party solidarity!

[youtube]J_uC0wy_O90[/youtube]

Did you forget that the Nazi's and the Communists hated one another? and now you want me to believe that they are the same system?

Michigan and Ohio State hate one another too.

Was not the appeal of Nazi, Big Union and Communism organized around the appeal of the downtrodden working man to unite against their oppressors?

These are all Big Labor parties.

The communist workers came together out of a sense of all for one and one for all. The Nazi workers came together out of a nationalistic pride. Big difference.

 

[SniperFire]

Did you forget that the Nazi's and the Communists hated one another? and now you want me to believe that they are the same system?

Michigan and Ohio State hate one another too.

Was not the appeal of Nazi, Big Union and Communism organized around the appeal of the downtrodden working man to unite against their oppressors?

These are all Big Labor parties.

The communist workers came together out of a sense of all for one and one for all. The Nazi workers came together out of a nationalistic pride. Big difference.

Slight variations of a theme. Both were uniting the downtrodden working man against their perceived oppressors.

Does Big Labor seek to unite the downtrodden working man against their perceived oppressors?

 

[spectrumc01]

The Michigan right to work law is inconsistant with it's idea. By being inconsistant it is wrong and unfair. Yes, it does allow workers to choose if they want to be in a union, but it also excludes the police and firemen's unions. The right to work does not apply to these two occupations. By making exceptions they have proved their own reasoning as false.

Michigan excludes police and fire unions from

Wrong. By making exceptions they have proved a political cowardice - or actually, a pragmatism.

So Republicans are cowards? (already known).
You can't say, "choice is great for the worker and thats why we did it, but only for certain workers." Either it is or it isn't you can't have it both ways. By exclusion "Right to Work" has become unfair and can be challenged in the courts as discriminatory. It's all about consistancy, and the Republicans are like drunken sailors. Snyder is a prime example of a Republican who doesn't know what conservative values are or mean. His stance on the new bridge is a perfect example.

 

[SniperFire]

The Michigan right to work law is inconsistant with it's idea. By being inconsistant it is wrong and unfair. Yes, it does allow workers to choose if they want to be in a union, but it also excludes the police and firemen's unions. The right to work does not apply to these two occupations. By making exceptions they have proved their own reasoning as false.

Michigan excludes police and fire unions from

Wrong. By making exceptions they have proved a political cowardice - or actually, a pragmatism.

So Republicans are cowards? (already known).
You can't say, "choice is great for the worker and thats why we did it, but only for certain workers." Either it is or it isn't you can't have it both ways. By exclusion "Right to Work" has become unfair and can be challenged in the courts as discriminatory. It's all about consistancy, and the Republicans are like drunken sailors. Snyder is a prime example of a Republican who doesn't know what conservative values are or mean. His stance on the new bridge is a perfect example.

Politically, they get what they can.

 

[spectrumc01]

Michigan and Ohio State hate one another too.

Was not the appeal of Nazi, Big Union and Communism organized around the appeal of the downtrodden working man to unite against their oppressors?

These are all Big Labor parties.

The communist workers came together out of a sense of all for one and one for all. The Nazi workers came together out of a nationalistic pride. Big difference.

Slight variations of a theme. Both were uniting the downtrodden working man against their perceived oppressors.

Does Big Labor seek to unite the downtrodden working man against their perceived oppressors?

slight variation my ass. Let me help you.

File:European-political-spectrum.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[SniperFire]

The Michigan right to work law is inconsistant with it's idea. By being inconsistant it is wrong and unfair. Yes, it does allow workers to choose if they want to be in a union, but it also excludes the police and firemen's unions. The right to work does not apply to these two occupations. By making exceptions they have proved their own reasoning as false.

Michigan excludes police and fire unions from

Wrong. By making exceptions they have proved a political cowardice - or actually, a pragmatism.

So Republicans are cowards? (already known).
You can't say, "choice is great for the worker and thats why we did it, but only for certain workers." Either it is or it isn't you can't have it both ways. By exclusion "Right to Work" has become unfair and can be challenged in the courts as discriminatory. It's all about consistancy, and the Republicans are like drunken sailors. Snyder is a prime example of a Republican who doesn't know what conservative values are or mean. His stance on the new bridge is a perfect example.

Man, I hope you are right.

It would be awesome if a public worker sued government under this notion, and that no less than the Supreme Court stepped in to crush public unions for us.

 

[SniperFire]

The communist workers came together out of a sense of all for one and one for all. The Nazi workers came together out of a nationalistic pride. Big difference.

Slight variations of a theme. Both were uniting the downtrodden working man against their perceived oppressors.

Does Big Labor seek to unite the downtrodden working man against their perceived oppressors?

slight variation my ass. Let me help you.

File:European-political-spectrum.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Does Big Labor seek to unite the downtrodden working man against their perceived oppressors?

Answer the question.