Mexican Holiday trumps Patriotism in California, court rules

[frazzledgear]

I’m surprised the boys didn’t get charged with disorderly conduct.

Evidently the American flag T-Shirts saying U.S.A. the boys were wearing were considered to be a form of profanity to the Mexican children. It must have been terrible to see such profane material.

Profane material is defined as including language that denotes certain of those personally reviling epithets naturally tending to provoke violent resentment or denoting language so grossly offensive to members of the public who actually hear it as to amount to a nuisance.

This is also what happens when the letter of the amendment regarding citizenship isn't followed. It became broadly interpreted to mean the child of anyone who happened to be standing on US soil when they dropped their kid was automatically a citizen but in fact when this was passed, it was part of Reconstruction following the Civil War to guarantee the citizenship of former slaves who were born here -NOT with the intention of handing out citizenship to the offspring of anyone who happened to wander in and drop a kid. The wording was supposed to be interpreted and understood to mean the child of someone whose first loyalty was not to another country. Americans did NOT vote to pass this amendment with the intention of granting US citizenship to millions of foreigners as part of their invasion. They didn't want the offspring of diplomats to get US citizenship and they didn't want the offspring of tourists who were the citizens of another country to be given citizenship because the loyalties of such people were with another country and they would be taking their child back to raise that child to have the same loyalties as well. It was intended to insure the citizenship of those who had been born and enslaved here but denied citizenship. NOT as a freebie for whoever managed to sneak into this country! Americans had no intention of just handing over the entire nation to the offspring of those whose loyalties lay with another country because those of their offspring would as well! AND THIS IS WHY.

Illegal aliens' loyalties lie with Mexico though -and they are raising their children to give their first loyalties to Mexico as well. A lot of people would like to totally ignore this fact, but their children are also MEXICAN CITIZENS -and their loyalties are the same as their parents. PERIOD. Like their parents they consider themselves to be here only to exploit our system for their own personal benefit -but in their hearts, they are MEXICANS -not Americans. No AMERICAN would EVER find the display of the American flag to be "offensive" and no AMERICAN would ever, EVER demand we celebrate and honor a Mexican holiday which has ZERO relevance to US history -and put it on a par with our own, much less above the display of patriotism to THIS country! That is like the offspring of Russian immigrants who have raised their children to give their first loyalty to Russia -demanding the US public schools celebrate Den Rossii -a Russian holiday that has ZERO relevance to US history as well -and insisting the display of any US patriotism on that particular day to be "offensive".

Create that kind of "citizen" in this way and you are SERIOUSLY asking for trouble -and do not kid yourself, that is exactly what we will get from the children of illegals who are first and foremost MEXICAN CITIZENS.

 

[Wolfmoon]

The illegal alien’s children are bigger criminals than the illegal aliens. These illegal alien parents have large families to suck up welfare money and other benefits and then they raise their children to have first allegiances to their country of origin, I agree.

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The legal and illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the United States.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

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In 2011 Latinos comprised 50.3 percent of all people sentenced in Federal Prison
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2011/09/07/immigration-offenses-make-latinos-new-majority-in-federal-prisons-report-says/

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The annual costs of illegal immigration at the federal, state and local level to be about $113 billion; nearly $29 billion at the federal level and $84 billion at the state and local level.
http://www.fairus.org/site/News2/708226221?page=NewsArticle&id=23190&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1761

 

[Uncensored2008]

Then, when the story got national attention and the five teenagers were touted as heroes for standing their ground, they acted like defenders of the First Amendment. Considering that, according to other students, the boys aren't known to wear American flag shirts any other day of the year, maybe they were making a statement after all - the kind you make to drivers who cut you off on the highway.

I applaud them for making a statement.

Have you ever been to a St. Patrick's day party or parade? What do you think all those Irish would do if you showed up with an American flag? Shake your hand? Buy you a drink?

What they wouldn't do is assault you.

So why did the Mexican nationals decide to attack at the sight of the flag of this nation? Other than the Shitters, no one else would react to an American flag, so why do the Mexican nationals?

We all know the answer, because they are waging a war of conquest and seek to dissolve any trace of America.

Now that more details have surfaced, it looks as if the boys have, all along, been acting like brats.

Do you think it should be illegal to be American? Should speaking English result in jail time?

While it's true that it is not the school district's policy to ask students to remove patriotic clothing, and Rodriguez is in hot water, it is also true that administrators at Live Oak asked students beforehand not to wear flag clothing on Cinco de Mayo - any flags, of the United States, Mexico or Estonia. That's because there had been tensions last year, according to what a Morgan Hill school board trustee told the Associated Press.

Yet ONLY the Americans were targeted for enforcement.

Why? Well, that's pretty fucking obvious.

Live Oak high school kids out of control - SFGate

 

[Flopper]

Then, when the story got national attention and the five teenagers were touted as heroes for standing their ground, they acted like defenders of the First Amendment. Considering that, according to other students, the boys aren't known to wear American flag shirts any other day of the year, maybe they were making a statement after all - the kind you make to drivers who cut you off on the highway.

I applaud them for making a statement.

Have you ever been to a St. Patrick's day party or parade? What do you think all those Irish would do if you showed up with an American flag? Shake your hand? Buy you a drink?

What they wouldn't do is assault you.

So why did the Mexican nationals decide to attack at the sight of the flag of this nation? Other than the Shitters, no one else would react to an American flag, so why do the Mexican nationals?

We all know the answer, because they are waging a war of conquest and seek to dissolve any trace of America.

Now that more details have surfaced, it looks as if the boys have, all along, been acting like brats.

Do you think it should be illegal to be American? Should speaking English result in jail time?

While it's true that it is not the school district's policy to ask students to remove patriotic clothing, and Rodriguez is in hot water, it is also true that administrators at Live Oak asked students beforehand not to wear flag clothing on Cinco de Mayo - any flags, of the United States, Mexico or Estonia. That's because there had been tensions last year, according to what a Morgan Hill school board trustee told the Associated Press.

Yet ONLY the Americans were targeted for enforcement.

Why? Well, that's pretty fucking obvious.

Live Oak high school kids out of control - SFGate

There was no violence because the principal took action to prevent it. You assume because a person is proud of their national origin they are not an American. These kids are not illegal aliens, most if not all were born in the US and just as much an American citizens as you are.

 

[Tank]

Soon Cinco De Mayo will replace the Forth of July.

 

[The Infidel]

There was no violence because the principal took action to prevent it. You assume because a person is proud of their national origin they are not an American. These kids are not illegal aliens, most if not all were born in the US and just as much an American citizens as you are.

Not assuming anything here.... if they (the mexican kids) start trouble bc some AMERICAN kids are proud of the nation in which they live in and their ancestors fought and died for, the mexicans should be in hot seat.

Why dont they just not celebrate a FOREIGN holiday there?

I would bet ya $100.00 that not one of those anchor babies even know what the 5th of May is all about.

 

[Uncensored2008]

There was no violence because the principal took action to prevent it.

Yep, he grabbed his Mexican flag, waved it high and expelled those Gringo Americanos.

You assume because a person is proud of their national origin they are not an American.

You assume that prohibiting the display of American symbols while promoting the display of Mexican symbols isn't treason.

These kids are not illegal aliens,

ROFL

most if not all were born in the US and just as much an American citizens as you are.

Those that were, were born to illegals.

30 years ago the lies that you tell had some impact, but we are in a war now - pretending that this isn't an invasion just makes you look stupid. These are Mexican nationals imposing their nationalism. Reconquesta.

 

[Angelhair]

CA was handed over to Mexico a long time ago. The people in CA fell asleep at the wheel. Can't blame anybody but themselves for putting in high offices latinos who are looking to benefit Mexico and beyond and NOT California! The USA is next. It's that simple folks.

Solamente queremos la vuelta de nuestra pais.

 

[Tank]

The more Mexicans, the more Mexico

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Perhaps if the OP as bothered to read the linked Chronicle article, rather than the edited Fox story, he’d understand that the judge was merely following precedent with regard to similar issues:

But Ware said post-1969 rulings by federal courts have deferred to school officials' conclusions that certain types of student expression could endanger the speakers - for example, decisions by three appellate courts upholding bans on the Confederate flag in schools with histories of racial tension.

Consequently the ruling has nothing to do with ‘restricting patriotism.’

This is an act of war. This principle and this federal judge are enemies of this nation and should be treated as such.

And yours in an act of ignorance.

This is also what happens when the letter of the amendment regarding citizenship isn't followed. It became broadly interpreted to mean the child of anyone who happened to be standing on US soil when they dropped their kid was automatically a citizen but in fact when this was passed, it was part of Reconstruction following the Civil War to guarantee the citizenship of former slaves who were born here -NOT with the intention of handing out citizenship to the offspring of anyone who happened to wander in and drop a kid.

You only exhibit your ignorance, as there is no Constitutional case law in support of your position:

The Supreme Court has upheld constitutional citizenship on several occasions. Constitutional citizenship enshrined in the 14th Amendment was intended not only to resolve the status of African Americans and their descendants, but also to apply to members of all racial groups and immigrants. In 1898, in the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, the court ruled that the son of a Chinese national, ineligible for citizenship, should not be denied citizenship because of the parent’s lack of
legal status. Many years later, the 1982 ruling on Plyler v. Doe held that undocumented children are covered by this equal protection clause. These court rulings provide a clear indication that citizenship extends to the children of non-citizens.

http://www.naleo.org/sb1070toolkit/The_Citizenship_Clause_of_the_14th_Amendment.pdf

 

[Ringel05]

CA was handed over to Mexico a long time ago. The people in CA fell asleep at the wheel. Can't blame anybody but themselves for putting in high offices latinos who are looking to benefit Mexico and beyond and NOT California! The USA is next. It's that simple folks.

Solamente queremos la vuelta de nuestra pais.

Nous voulons juste récupérer notre pays.

 

[bodecea]

At this point, the rule of law has broken down. The judge in question should be taken out and beaten to within and inch of his life.

Incite violence, but rest assured, you would never, ever dare to do it yourself.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Consequently the ruling has nothing to do with ‘restricting patriotism.’

Really?

Prohibiting the display of the American flag whilst allowing or even promoting the display of the Mexican flag has "nothing to do with it?"

ROFL

You don't expect to be taken seriously, do you? You're a partisan hack, nothing more. You make a pretense of having knowledge of the law, but you are simply a hack.

And yours in an act of ignorance.

You mean it defies your goal to destroy the American middle class culture and mainstream the peasant culture of Mexico in furtherance of your goal for a two tiered society.

You only exhibit your ignorance, as there is no Constitutional case law in support of your position:

I will allow him to support his assertion.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Incite violence, but rest assured, you would never, ever dare to do it yourself.

This judge has waged war and given comfort and aid to the enemy.

 

[editec]

Yes, this is a very troubling report.

I have no problem with people celebrating their ethnic heritage, but to send those boys home is a violation of THEIR right of self expression.

The principle probably sent them home so they would get their asses kicked, but still...

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yes, this is a very troubling report.

I have no problem with people celebrating their ethnic heritage, but to send those boys home is a violation of THEIR right of self expression.

The principle probably sent them home so they would get their asses kicked, but still...

The (assistant) principle, Miguel Rodriguez who sent them home speaks mostly Spanish to students and is outspoken on California being the rightful property of Mexico.

Miguel Rodriguez was part of MeCha in college and supports Atzlan.

 

[Wolfmoon]

The Mexican flag incites violence in America.

 

[Walt]

CA was handed over to Mexico a long time ago. The people in CA fell asleep at the wheel. Can't blame anybody but themselves for putting in high offices latinos who are looking to benefit Mexico and beyond and NOT California! The USA is next. It's that simple folks.

Solamente queremos la vuelta de nuestra pais.

Seguir adelante y volver a su país. Compramos todo al norte de la frontera.

 

[Rozman]

Yes, this is a very troubling report.

I have no problem with people celebrating their ethnic heritage, but to send those boys home is a violation of THEIR right of self expression.

The principle probably sent them home so they would get their asses kicked, but still...

The (assistant) principle, Miguel Rodriguez who sent them home speaks mostly Spanish to students and is outspoken on California being the rightful property of Mexico.

Miguel Rodriguez was part of MeCha in college and supports Atzlan.

The principal took the easy route...it was far easier to "punish" the law abiding person then take a chance of the the whole state rioting and filing lawsuits if action was taken against a person of color.It would have been the same deal if it were white kids up against blacks.White people will not make a big stink on the scene...Black folks will have rioted if any action were taken against them.People in authority are afraid of a physical confrontation,a legal confrontation and boycotts from the likes of Rev Jesse Jackson and al Sharpton.

 

[AmericanFirst]

In a few places in this country if you want to display an american flag on your property you will be forced to take it down...

However if you want to take that flag to the front lawn and set it on fire,or relieve yourself on it you will be allowed.In fact I'm sure some would cheer you on.

Or you can be like Michelle Obama seen recently questioning a flag ceremony...
She appears to be disgusted by the ceremony.It look like she asks her hubby..
All this for a flag,then she shakes her head in disapproval?

This country has changed so much in a short time in regards to respect for our flag.

They better not try and force me to take my American flag down. I will consider that a threat.