Ernie S.
Diamond Member
Which mod am I supposed to thank for slicing this off to another thread?
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Which mod am I supposed to thank for slicing this off to another thread?
Improved Medicare Single Payer Insurance for All is one substantial part of the solution.
- Easy to Implement: Medicare has been in existence since 1966, it provides
healthcare to those 65 and older, and satisfaction levels are high. The
structure is already in place and can be easily expanded to cover everyone.
- Simple: One entity established by the government would handle billing
and payment at a cost significantly lower than private insurance companies.
Private insurance companies spend about 31% of every healthcare dollar on
administration. Medicare now spends about 3%.
- Real Choice: An expanded and improved Medicare for All would provide
personal choice of doctors and other healthcare providers. While financing
would be public, providers would remain private. As with Medicare, you choose
your doctor, your hospital, and other healthcare providers.
- State and Local Tax Relief: Medicare for All would assume the costs of
healthcare delivery, thus relieving the states and local governments of the
cost of healthcare, including Medicaid, and as a result reduce State and
local tax burdens.
- Expanded coverage: Would cover all medically necessary healthcare
services no more rationing by private insurance companies. There would be
no limits on coverage, no co-pays or deductibles, and services would include
not only primary and specialized care but also prescription drugs, dental,
vision, mental health services, and long-term care.
- Everyone In, Nobody Out: Everyone would be eligible and covered. No
longer would doctors ask what insurance you have before they treat you.
- No More Overpriced Private Health Insurance: Medicare for All would
eliminate the need for private health insurance companies who put profit
before healthcare, unfairly limit choice, restrict who gets coverage, and
force people into bankruptcy.
- Lower Costs: Most people will pay significantly less for healthcare.
Savings will be achieved in reduced administrative costs and in negotiated
prices for prescription drugs.
Healthcare-NOW! - Register for the Healthcare-NOW! Annual Strategy Conference
I am for IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance for ALL absolutely!!!
Make IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance for ALL available to all taxpayers as one of our choices.
Leave existing insurance on the table for those who enjoy spending large sums of money
for medical insurance. What could possibly be more American?
I want my tax dollars spent on a useful endeavor not on insurance over charges or obscene CEO salaries or golden parachutes or shareholders or special interest campaign funding!!!
It is time for my tax dollars to support this fiscally prudent insurance program. Allow me to sign up!
Improved Medicare Single Payer Insurance for All is one substantial part of the solution.
- Easy to Implement: Medicare has been in existence since 1966, it provides
healthcare to those 65 and older, and satisfaction levels are high. The
structure is already in place and can be easily expanded to cover everyone.
- Simple: One entity established by the government would handle billing
and payment at a cost significantly lower than private insurance companies.
Private insurance companies spend about 31% of every healthcare dollar on
administration. Medicare now spends about 3%.
- Real Choice: An expanded and improved Medicare for All would provide
personal choice of doctors and other healthcare providers. While financing
would be public, providers would remain private. As with Medicare, you choose
your doctor, your hospital, and other healthcare providers.
- State and Local Tax Relief: Medicare for All would assume the costs of
healthcare delivery, thus relieving the states and local governments of the
cost of healthcare, including Medicaid, and as a result reduce State and
local tax burdens.
- Expanded coverage: Would cover all medically necessary healthcare
services no more rationing by private insurance companies. There would be
no limits on coverage, no co-pays or deductibles, and services would include
not only primary and specialized care but also prescription drugs, dental,
vision, mental health services, and long-term care.
- Everyone In, Nobody Out: Everyone would be eligible and covered. No
longer would doctors ask what insurance you have before they treat you.
- No More Overpriced Private Health Insurance: Medicare for All would
eliminate the need for private health insurance companies who put profit
before healthcare, unfairly limit choice, restrict who gets coverage, and
force people into bankruptcy.
- Lower Costs: Most people will pay significantly less for healthcare.
Savings will be achieved in reduced administrative costs and in negotiated
prices for prescription drugs.
Healthcare-NOW! - Register for the Healthcare-NOW! Annual Strategy Conference
Medical insurance cannot get any better than this:
IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance for ALL would cover every person for all necessary medical care 24/7 to include:
* Wellness
* prescription drugs
* hospital
* surgical
* outpatient services
* primary and preventive care
* emergency services
* dental
* mental health
* home health
* physical therapy
* rehabilitation (including for substance abuse)
* vision care
* hearing services including hearing aids
* chiropractic
* durable
* medical equipment
* palliative care
* long term care
No deductibles No Co-pays
Heres where we fuck you up.
WHO PAYS?
Medical insurance cannot get any better than this:
IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance for ALL would cover every person for all necessary medical care 24/7 to include:
* Wellness
* prescription drugs
* hospital
* surgical
* outpatient services
* primary and preventive care
* emergency services
* dental
* mental health
* home health
* physical therapy
* rehabilitation (including for substance abuse)
* vision care
* hearing services including hearing aids
* chiropractic
* durable
* medical equipment
* palliative care
* long term care
No deductibles No Co-pays
Heres where we fuck you up.
WHO PAYS?
Everybody which is about 100% different than the way it is set up at the moment. About $2700 a year for a family of four is not too bad.
Improved Medicare Single Payer Insurance for All is one substantial part of the solution.
- Easy to Implement: Medicare has been in existence since 1966, it provides
healthcare to those 65 and older, and satisfaction levels are high. The
structure is already in place and can be easily expanded to cover everyone.
- Simple: One entity established by the government would handle billing
and payment at a cost significantly lower than private insurance companies.
Private insurance companies spend about 31% of every healthcare dollar on
administration. Medicare now spends about 3%.
- Real Choice: An expanded and improved Medicare for All would provide
personal choice of doctors and other healthcare providers. While financing
would be public, providers would remain private. As with Medicare, you choose
your doctor, your hospital, and other healthcare providers.
- State and Local Tax Relief: Medicare for All would assume the costs of
healthcare delivery, thus relieving the states and local governments of the
cost of healthcare, including Medicaid, and as a result reduce State and
local tax burdens.
- Expanded coverage: Would cover all medically necessary healthcare
services no more rationing by private insurance companies. There would be
no limits on coverage, no co-pays or deductibles, and services would include
not only primary and specialized care but also prescription drugs, dental,
vision, mental health services, and long-term care.
- Everyone In, Nobody Out: Everyone would be eligible and covered. No
longer would doctors ask what insurance you have before they treat you.
- No More Overpriced Private Health Insurance: Medicare for All would
eliminate the need for private health insurance companies who put profit
before healthcare, unfairly limit choice, restrict who gets coverage, and
force people into bankruptcy.
- Lower Costs: Most people will pay significantly less for healthcare.
Savings will be achieved in reduced administrative costs and in negotiated
prices for prescription drugs.
Healthcare-NOW! - Register for the Healthcare-NOW! Annual Strategy Conference
And when their 'single payer' costs soar because of the health of those who opt for it, they'll be screaming for those of us who 'opt out' to be forced to pay for them.
And, naturally, medical advances will all but cease - no development of new drugs, treatments, therapies, or technologies - because there will be no profit in those.
And, naturally, this 'health care' will require someone to build the hospitals, employ the doctors, etc.... there won't be enough money for that either.
All looks real good on paper - but in practice... it's your basic clusterfuck.
I am for IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance for ALL absolutely!!!
Make IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance for ALL available to all taxpayers as one of our choices.
Leave existing insurance on the table for those who enjoy spending large sums of money
for medical insurance. What could possibly be more American?
I want my tax dollars spent on a useful endeavor not on insurance over charges or obscene CEO salaries or golden parachutes or shareholders or special interest campaign funding!!!
It is time for my tax dollars to support this fiscally prudent insurance program. Allow me to sign up!
The single payer should be the one receiving the service. Your health care is not my responsibility.
I too want my tax dollars spent on useful endeavors, like what is enumerated in the Constitution.
And when their 'single payer' costs soar because of the health of those who opt for it, they'll be screaming for those of us who 'opt out' to be forced to pay for them.
And, naturally, medical advances will all but cease - no development of new drugs, treatments, therapies, or technologies - because there will be no profit in those.
And, naturally, this 'health care' will require someone to build the hospitals, employ the doctors, etc.... there won't be enough money for that either.
All looks real good on paper - but in practice... it's your basic clusterfuck.
When one thinks about 70 million signing on to this insurance coverage almost immediately I'd say we would could say "self sustaining".
Let this be a matter of choice.
What should be a matter of choice is IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance. Allow we IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance consumers the right to bring OUR tax dollars home to our respective communities.
There are close to 70 million uninsured as we speak. Open up IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer insurance and bring them on. Their tax dollars alone would support a Medicare single payer system. Plus senior citizens would participate. Now there are plenty of tax dollars to support Improved Medicare Single Payer Insurance.
The 70 million or more uninsured are not with any medical insurance company and the industry is raking in profits. The industry does not want the uninsured or the senior citizen population. This is where Improved Medicare Single Payer Insurance steps up to the plate.
Moreover, tax dollars pay for critical elements of the health care system apart from direct care. Medicare Insurance funds much of the expensive equipment hospitals use along with all medical residencies.
Open the IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance door wide to all who want to switch.
Senior citizens are paying monthly as we speak.
Bringing seniors,the uninsured and all federal government employees under this umbrella could potentially reduce the cost of conventional medical insurance. The health care industry would no longer be eating the cost of treating the uninsured thus those expenses would no longer be passed on.
Let this be a matter of choice.
What should be a matter of choice is IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance. Allow we IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance consumers the right to bring OUR tax dollars home to our respective communities.
There are close to 70 million uninsured as we speak. Open up IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer insurance and bring them on. Their tax dollars alone would support a Medicare single payer system. Plus senior citizens would participate. Now there are plenty of tax dollars to support Improved Medicare Single Payer Insurance.
The 70 million or more uninsured are not with any medical insurance company and the industry is raking in profits. The industry does not want the uninsured or the senior citizen population. This is where Improved Medicare Single Payer Insurance steps up to the plate.
Moreover, tax dollars pay for critical elements of the health care system apart from direct care. Medicare Insurance funds much of the expensive equipment hospitals use along with all medical residencies.
Open the IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance door wide to all who want to switch.
Senior citizens are paying monthly as we speak.
Bringing seniors,the uninsured and all federal government employees under this umbrella could potentially reduce the cost of conventional medical insurance. The health care industry would no longer be eating the cost of treating the uninsured thus those expenses would no longer be passed on.
The figures do not add up.
Who will pay the shortfall?
Let this be a matter of choice.
What should be a matter of choice is IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance. Allow we IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance consumers the right to bring OUR tax dollars home to our respective communities.
There are close to 70 million uninsured as we speak. Open up IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer insurance and bring them on. Their tax dollars alone would support a Medicare single payer system. Plus senior citizens would participate. Now there are plenty of tax dollars to support Improved Medicare Single Payer Insurance.
The 70 million or more uninsured are not with any medical insurance company and the industry is raking in profits. The industry does not want the uninsured or the senior citizen population. This is where Improved Medicare Single Payer Insurance steps up to the plate.
Moreover, tax dollars pay for critical elements of the health care system apart from direct care. Medicare Insurance funds much of the expensive equipment hospitals use along with all medical residencies.
Open the IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance door wide to all who want to switch.
Senior citizens are paying monthly as we speak.
Bringing seniors,the uninsured and all federal government employees under this umbrella could potentially reduce the cost of conventional medical insurance. The health care industry would no longer be eating the cost of treating the uninsured thus those expenses would no longer be passed on.
The figures do not add up.
Who will pay the shortfall?
Which figures do not add up?
What shortfall?
Where are you getting this information?
Why would there be a shortfall?
The figures do not add up.
Who will pay the shortfall?
Which figures do not add up?
What shortfall?
Where are you getting this information?
Why would there be a shortfall?
"That 70 million will be those who cost the most. Do the damned math."
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Do the damned math. Research the damned topic - which clearly you have not, otherwise you would know the answers to your questions. Why have you not investigated the concept thoroughly before supporting it?
That 70 million will be those who cost the most. Do the damned math.
Which figures do not add up?
What shortfall?
Where are you getting this information?
Why would there be a shortfall?
"That 70 million will be those who cost the most. Do the damned math."
__________________
Do the damned math. Research the damned topic - which clearly you have not, otherwise you would know the answers to your questions. Why have you not investigated the concept thoroughly before supporting it?
That 70 million will be those who cost the most. Do the damned math.
Says who? You don't know this.
IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance will create an estimated 2.4 million jobs in the health care industry. Health Care may well be the fastest growing industry on the planet.
"That 70 million will be those who cost the most. Do the damned math."
__________________
Do the damned math. Research the damned topic - which clearly you have not, otherwise you would know the answers to your questions. Why have you not investigated the concept thoroughly before supporting it?
That 70 million will be those who cost the most. Do the damned math.
Says who? You don't know this.
IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance will create an estimated 2.4 million jobs in the health care industry. Health Care may well be the fastest growing industry on the planet.
Says logic.
You clearly have not given this much rational thought.
There will not be enough money for the list of services that you claim will be provided. Who will pay the shortfall? What about those who cannot afford to pay even the $2,700?
Who will pay for these 2.4million jobs?
Says who? You don't know this.
IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance will create an estimated 2.4 million jobs in the health care industry. Health Care may well be the fastest growing industry on the planet.
Says logic.
You clearly have not given this much rational thought.
There will not be enough money for the list of services that you claim will be provided. Who will pay the shortfall? What about those who cannot afford to pay even the $2,700?
Who will pay for these 2.4million jobs?
Who is paying for those who cannot afford them now? YOU are!
Logic is not good enough for this discussion.
2.4 million new employees comes as the demand increases in the health care industry
so can we cay private industry will be paying the new health care employees.
Is there something wrong with millions of new jobs in a country that lost 11 million jobs?
"That 70 million will be those who cost the most. Do the damned math."
__________________
Do the damned math. Research the damned topic - which clearly you have not, otherwise you would know the answers to your questions. Why have you not investigated the concept thoroughly before supporting it?
That 70 million will be those who cost the most. Do the damned math.
Says who? You don't know this.
IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance will create an estimated 2.4 million jobs in the health care industry. Health Care may well be the fastest growing industry on the planet.
Says logic.
You clearly have not given this much rational thought.
There will not be enough money for the list of services that you claim will be provided. Who will pay the shortfall? What about those who cannot afford to pay even the $2,700?
Who will pay for these 2.4million jobs?
Says who? You don't know this.
IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance will create an estimated 2.4 million jobs in the health care industry. Health Care may well be the fastest growing industry on the planet.
Says logic.
You clearly have not given this much rational thought.
There will not be enough money for the list of services that you claim will be provided. Who will pay the shortfall? What about those who cannot afford to pay even the $2,700?
Who will pay for these 2.4million jobs?
Consider that IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Inusrance does not come loaded with:
1. 30% admin costs associated with the medical insurance industry
2. Obscene CEO pay packages (there are more than 2000 insurance providers = more than 2000 CEO's)
3. shareholders
4. golden parachutes (CIGNA CEO recently walked away with a $73 million retirement bonus = medical insurance coverage for 4,867 families for one year at $15,000 )
5. Special interest political campaign contributions
6. expensive campaigns to keep single payer insurance off the table at a cost of $1.4 million a day by way of the US Chamber of Commerce
Just to mention a few ways to save billions of dollars...