Mel Gibson For President of the USA

[MtnBiker]

The other night I asked my dad for $5.oo, he asked "for what?",,, and I said so that I could go out and get a ginny pig.. He thought about it for a momment and handed me $10 and said,,, "no no, here is a little extra, go get yourself a nice Irish girl!"..

OK, enough of this nonsense, I have to get up early and vote for change...

Wow, what a lame joke.

 

[Working Man]

Wow, what a lame joke.

I'll tell you what, that one is funny!!!!

It is one of my favorites. Heard it first in an Irish bar. Thought the guy who said it was going to get his head busted in by the Murphys and Walsh's. :shocked1:

Just a reminder.. Remember what today is... I need to go find one of my posts that I put on this board,, maybe six months ago..... We shall take it from there.

 

[BaronVonBigmeat]

And why exactly would giving into the terrorists by refusing to support our allies in Israel be beneficial?

Because our support of Israel (and other regimes in the mideast) is one of the prime reasons why muslims hate the US to begin with. Where was the fiery "great satan" rhetoric before we began giving aid to Israel?

It's a stronghold in the Middle East. If Israel wasn't there, then first of all, Hamas and Hezbollah might turn their eyes to the U.S. Second, the closest place to Iraq we'd have to strike from is Turkey. Third, those nuclear plants Saddam built would likely still be standing. The Israelis are the only people in the world better at fighting Islamic terrorists than we are.

Unless I'm remembering wrong, Hamas and Hezbollah did not exist until after Israel was created and imposed a military police state upon the Palestinians. The Israelis are the only people in the world better at creating Islamic terrorists than we are. It's been decades now, with no end in sight; they may be good at fighting the problem but terrible at curing the problem.

 

[jillian]

Because our support of Israel (and other regimes in the mideast) is one of the prime reasons why muslims hate the US to begin with. Where was the fiery "great satan" rhetoric before we began giving aid to Israel?

So appeasement worked for the Vichy, huh? And when did France and Spain become huge supporters of Israel? You're barking up the wrong tree.

Unless I'm remembering wrong, Hamas and Hezbollah did not exist until after Israel was created and imposed a military police state upon the Palestinians. The Israelis are the only people in the world better at creating Islamic terrorists than we are. It's been decades now, with no end in sight; they may be good at fighting the problem but terrible at curing the problem.

You're getting your history ass-backwards..... the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was the one who told his people to "drive the Jews into the sea".... it wasn't the other way around. The fact that those same folk decided to establish terrorist organizations is on them... not on Israel.

And surely Jews aren't supposed to defend themselves... the horror.... and certainly we're not supposed to do the right thing and support our only reliable ally in the region, heaven forbid.

Anti-semitism by any other name is still anti-semitism... no matter how you couch it.

 

[Gunny]

Hatred is interesting to watch, yes? They complain that Jews are the bankers, lawyers, CEO's.... yet, the truth is that most people in power are white anglo saxon protestant. There has never been, and most likely never will be, a Jewish president. They focus on Jews because they hate Jews. The same rabid hatred that comes out in Mel when he's drunk... They complain about Jews historically being in banking. What they don't say is that historically, as well, Jews were banned from most professions by "good Christians" except for moneylending and peddling. That was turned into banking and retail through hard work and education. But again, that is a small percentage of the population.

All this when Jews comprise all of 1.5 percent of the population of the U.S.

Really sad and pathetic to read in this day and age.

You and onedomino are as much a part of the problem as the haters. Both of you see ANY criticism as "hatred." You're shooting the messenger. Insein has made a good argument. He has yet to say he supports it ... only that he can understand why. When you take off the blinders, it's pretty easy to see.

No go ahead and call ME a hater since I am one of THE strongest advocates of our alliance with Israel on this board.

 

[dilloduck]

So appeasement worked for the Vichy, huh? And when did France and Spain become huge supporters of Israel? You're barking up the wrong tree.



You're getting your history ass-backwards..... the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was the one who told his people to "drive the Jews into the sea".... it wasn't the other way around. The fact that those same folk decided to establish terrorist organizations is on them... not on Israel.

And surely Jews aren't supposed to defend themselves... the horror.... and certainly we're not supposed to do the right thing and support our only reliable ally in the region, heaven forbid.

Anti-semitism by any other name is still anti-semitism... no matter how you couch it.

Using your logic, Israel if FULL of anti-semites.

 

[Gunny]

Using your logic, Israel if FULL of anti-semites.

I hate everyone. If ya' ain't Texan, ya' ain't shit.

 

[dilloduck]

I hate everyone. If ya' ain't Texan, ya' ain't shit.

What the heck--I'm up for a little state rivalry !!

 

[BaronVonBigmeat]

So appeasement worked for the Vichy, huh? And when did France and Spain become huge supporters of Israel? You're barking up the wrong tree.

Spain didn't have any problems until they supported our invasion of Iraq.

France has problems with muslims because their socialist government A) causes high unemployment, particularly for entry-level jobs; B) crams them into multistory concrete bunkers (ie, public housing), and C) pays them to not work. That's a surefire breeding ground for crime and antisocial behavior. This same recipe causes similar problems in the US and the UK, only it isn't muslims, it's "gangstaz" and "inner-city youths" in the US, and "Chavs/Townies/Neds" in the UK.

You're getting your history ass-backwards..... the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was the one who told his people to "drive the Jews into the sea".... it wasn't the other way around. The fact that those same folk decided to establish terrorist organizations is on them... not on Israel.

And surely Jews aren't supposed to defend themselves... the horror.... and certainly we're not supposed to do the right thing and support our only reliable ally in the region, heaven forbid.

Anti-semitism by any other name is still anti-semitism... no matter how you couch it.

The US should stay out of other countries' affairs, and avoid entangling alliances--especially if there is nothing but downsides to an alliance. There are conflicts all over the globe, and we cannot solve them all. The Israelis have every right to defend themselves, but that's their job, not ours.

Aid to Israel (and Palestine, and Egypt, and Saudi Arabia...) has done nothing to ease the conflict in the mideast, absolutely nothing. Hell, aid to Israel isn't even good for Israel, in the long run. It enables them to avoid reforming one of the most socialist states in the world.

And being against aid to mideast governments isn't the same thing as being anti-Israel, much less anti-Jew. If I were antisemitic, I wouldn't be such a big fan of Ludwig Von Mises or Murray Rothbard (my avatar). Both of whom opposed US meddling in the mideast, btw.

 

[Gunny]

What the heck--I'm up for a little state rivalry !!

You CAN'T be a state rival .... we live about 90 miles from one another.:duh3:

 

[dilloduck]

You CAN'T be a state rival .... we live about 90 miles from one another.:duh3:

I was assuming you were going to get the usual repercussions from non-Texans and let ya know I had your back ! ( just in case of course)

 

[Gunny]

I was assuming you were going to get the usual repercussions from non-Texans and let ya know I had your back ! ( just in case of course)

Maybe I was too obvious?

 

[BaronVonBigmeat]

Three cowboys are out on the range at the end of a long day, telling stories around the campfire. The Kansas cowboy says, "Just last week, I carried a hurt calf on my shoulders over a mile, all the way back to camp." The Oklahoma cowboy says, "That ain't nothin. Couple months ago, I came across a den of rattlesnakes, killed 'em with my bare hands, and made 'em into these here boots!"

After telling their stories, they look over to the Texas cowboy to see what he will say to top them. But he doesn't say anything; instead he just leans back and continues to stir the campfire with his penis.

 

[onedomino]

Insein has made a good argument.

It is remarkable that you could defend the racist crap that Insein wrote. One of the many delightful things Insein wrote: "Then when you add in the fact that they are the personification of ruining people's lives." Statements do not get more profoundly racist than that. Yeah Gunny, "good argument."

 

[Gunny]

It is remarkable that you could defend the racist crap that Insein wrote. One of the many delightful things Insein wrote: "Then when you add in the fact that they are the personification of ruining people's lives." Statements do not get more profoundly racist than that. Yeah Gunny, "good argument."

Probably because I don't see what he posted as racist. What I see is logical reasoning. You skimmed the part where he says "this is what people think and why" or words to that effect and immediately went into crying "racism" overdrive.

I don't see it as racism to criticize minorities who have used their minority status to enrich themselves at the expense the non-minority. I see it as calling a spade a spade. Who are the REAL racists? The ones being victimized by someone's minoity status, or the one's using their minority status like a sledge everytime someone tells them "no?"

Jews historically have been clannish. They do business with other Jews to keep the money within the "family." THAT isn't racism? I personally don't care if they do or they don't. It's their right in this nation to trade with and enrich whoever they want. But the second someone points it out don't start calling them a Nazi and screaming "Holocaust," or racism.

When did we lose the ability to simply call something what it is?

 

[onedomino]

Gunny, this is what Insein wrote in post 11:

"Look at history and its painfully obvious why Jews have been the scapegoat of every generations. Like i said, they have always held the jobs that most civilizations deemed unclean like tax collector, banker, etc. Then when you add in the fact that they are the personification of ruining people's lives, people will hate them. People do not tax collectors. They do not like lawyers. They do not like bankers that reposses their homes. A majority of people in those positions have been jews. They say its not personal, but it is to the people's lives they are ruining. Then they put on a PR show and dance to act like that lawyers are great crusaders for justice (Law and Order et al). Bullshit. Lawyers are the reason this country is going downhill for the past 50 years. And what ethinicity makes up the majority of lawyers? Exactly."

Not only is the content of that quote false, it is racist plain and simple. The majority of lawyers are Jews? Bankers are unclean? Absurd in the extreme. And we are supposed to believe that he is merely explaining what other people believe and that he himself does not? Baloney.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Gunny, this is what Insein wrote in post 11: Not only is the content of that quote false, it is racist plain and simple. The majority of lawyers are Jews? Bankers are unclean? Absurd in the extreme. And we are supposed to believe that he is merely explaining what other people believe and that he himself does not? Baloney.

Jews teach their young to seek power. Part of their religion is a commandment to ready the world for the coming of Moshiach. Part of the readying the world is creating a worldwide theocracy centered on israel, and with every jew as a priest in the "religion" and every non jew as a subservient noahide. It is written. Most christians are woefully ignorant about the jewish faith, preferring to think of the jews as wonderful and shiny proto-christians.

 

[90K]

I would say it is first about being a good provider and then about power. Jewish kids are taught at a young age about many a things including the law, now whether they follow the law is up to them. They are very shewd about things in life and thus have remained so successful. I could be wrong but when I was growing up me and my friends were being mischievious boys around the way the rosen's had there boys playing instruments and being involved in sports all the time they had no free time to get into shit like we did. When they graduated from High School they had scholarships to well known schools and I went into the service. Today one boy is a doctor and the other is a lawyer. See they groomed the kids to be good providers and shewd and they'll do it to there kids it's been that way for thousand of years. We aren't like that nor do we have the complete power to achieve that IMO.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

I would say it is first about being a good provider and then about power. Jewish kids are taught at a young age about many a things including the law, now whether they follow the law is up to them. They are very shewd about things in life and thus have remained so successful. I could be wrong but when I was growing up me and my friends were being mischievious boys around the way the rosen's had there boys playing instruments and being involved in sports all the time they had no free time to get into shit like we did. When they graduated from High School they had scholarships to well known schools and I went into the service. Today one boy is a doctor and the other is a lawyer. See they groomed the kids to be good providers and shewd and they'll do it to there kids it's been that way for thousand of years. We aren't like that nor do we have the complete power to achieve that IMO.

You could probably get closer than you think with a family culture that drove you that way.

Most traditional cultures are more strict than what passes for family life today.

 

[90K]

Indeed you are correct. I'm always amazed at Passover for example the family still does the exact same thing as it has for generations. Our holidays have been watered down and even disgraced by many. I know our Jewish friends still celebrate Chanukah, and yet they come over to our home and open presents. Hey its fun and they like to have fun, of course the meaning for my family is different and they know it and respect it. My friend’s mother is way over bearing and typical Jewish women and she made him a great guy in the world. My family didn't have the skills to make us doctors and such. So today as I keep my job I'm going to school, it's hard I hate it and I've got other things I could be doing but I must pay for my earlier days of being lazy. In my view I have the greatest respect for Jewish culture but on other sides I despise the arrogance and that attitude many give off, from a blessing given to them so unconditionally. I don't feel our country is ready for a Jewish President due to the ways of the world right now. I wouldn't want history to be re-written like it was some 60 years earlier. I mean no dis-respect here with that comment but it does trouble me that my people have no clue of anything Jewish except snide remarks.