Mass. Legislature approves plan to bypass Electoral College

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    really stupid and unfair to MA voters, as even if 0bama were to win the state, that would mean the states votes would go the republican candidate.

    An interesting concept. MA is willing to jump off the cliff for the benefit of the country as a whole.
     
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    They are going to wait until everyone else in the country votes before they decide who wins their election? Why have the election at all?

    On the other hand, this could mean that Massachusetts could elect a Republican as president.
     
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    Stupid idea. Continue to make the state irrelevant people
     
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    Seriously???
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    Blatantly Unconstitutional. The electoral College Gets a bad rap, but it is a fundamental Part of what Makes American Democracy, American Democracy. We are a Huge Continental, Ethnically, Religiously, and Ideologically diverse Nation. The Electoral College is a check against the Tyranny of the Majority. In a sense all it really does is count the popular vote state by state instead of as a whole. So in rare cases (4 times so far) a Candidate can win the Over all popular vote, but lose the election because their opponent Won more state Popular votes. In every case where it has happened so far, the Candidate that won the election but not the over all popular vote, only lost that vote by a very slim margin. Bush for example lost by less than 1 half of 1 percent of the total votes cast.

    The rallying cry against the Electoral College is 1 man 1 vote. How will you feel the day the person you voted for wins your states popular vote, but your state casts it's ballots for the other candidate. How does that jive with 1 man 1 vote.

    If we really believe in that, 1 man 1 vote, with out any protections for the Minority Parties, then we should do away with the Senate, Unlike the Electoral College and the House, the Senate is made up of 2 from each state, regardless of population. Meaning that People from Montana votes are roughly 54 times as powerful as people from California. The electoral College is populated by counting how many senators, and Congresspeople a state has.

    If we do away with the Electoral College, we might as well Do away with the States because we will have removed the last vestige of States rights, then we might as well become a parliamentary Democracy,where the Majority rules and the Minority Party can STFU and sit down. Our founders set it up this way for a reason. As I said We are a Massive, continental Country with a very Ethically, Religiously, and Ideologically Diverse Population. Any other form of Democracy would no be as well fitted as what we have. A Federal Republic, the Electoral College is an important part of what makes us that, and not any other parliamentary Democracy.
     
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    Do they realize they just insured that no Presidential candidate ever has to step in Massachusetts again? They can focus the Massachusetts time and money in California and Texas and not have to worry about it.
     
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    Dumbest thing Mass has done since Teddy.
     
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    Does anyone actually look at the text of the document before they say that?

    Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors...

    The Massachusetts legislature could decide which electoral slate to send to Washington based on whether or not a groundhog sees its shadow and that would still be Constitutional. There's nothing that says a popular election decides who the electoral votes go to and, indeed, in the early presidential election that's not how they were awarded.
     
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    The Electoral College should be done away with, but by the Congress, not the states.
     

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