Mark 16:9

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    A poster on another thread, the topic of which was questioning the authenticity of the last 12 verses in the book of Mark, wrote that it doesn’t really matter because there is no doctrinal teaching in Mark 16:9-20 that cannot be proved elsewhere in agreed Scripture.


    I made the mistake of sticking my nose into the discussion by pointing out that actually there is a statement in verse 9, as the KJV and similar versions have it, that is used for a doctrinal teaching that is to be found nowhere else in Scripture. As the KJV translates it, it is the only place that puts the resurrection on the first day of the week. I then suggested that whenever the discussion of seventh day observance versus first day observance comes up, first day proponents usually use the idea of a first day resurrection to justify the change, and when questioned about the day of resurrection, quote Mark 16:9. The poster came back with: “Quote a published author who has done that.” - I have not yet been able to come up with one. Does anyone here know of one?
     
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    Anyone?
     
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    I like the book of Jon Stewart.
     
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    It is not the only place that says that, it is the only place that says it that way. The rest of the time it was the day after the Sabbath, which is the last day of the week. That would, by definition, make the next day the first day of the week.
     
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    So can I safely presume that verses 1-8 in Mark 16 are not being disputed by you rstrats?
     
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    the original day of Sabbath was Saturday. It was changed to honor the day of Christs' ressurection
     
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    OMG! You may have a shrine in your living room.

    Old-style televisions had a 4:3 aspect ratio. That is, four units wide for each three units tall.

    But NEW wide-screens have a 16:9 aspect ratio!!!

    Is that mere coincidence or did some clever designer force you to put a shrine in your living room where your children cannot help but be exposed to it constantly?

    [/sarcastic font]
     
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    Just did a search through the KJV for "First day" to see how many times it comes up in reference to the resurrection. Here's what I found:

    In Mark 16, of course:

    Matthew 28:1

    John 20:1

    John 20:19

    Luke 24:1

    These are the references from the Gospels. All four of them mention it being the First day of the week and it being the Morning After the Sabbath. I am not sure where you are getting that it was only mentioned in Mark 16:9. That's not even the only reference in that chapter.

    Among the search, I also found a reference to the earley saints worshiping on the first day of the week. Paul preached among them after they had communion. And it was on the first day
    Acts 20:7

    I think there is sufficient evidence to support worship on the Lord's Day. Even if we go solely by the Bible.

    And if we are going to talk about the Sabbath in the New Testament, I can't help but point out Colossians 2:12-17:

    It's interesting how he mentions people judging the early saints in regards to the Sabbath days right after he speaks about how Christ has redeemed us from the law.

    This makes me ask two questions:

    Was there a people other than the House of Israel who worshiped on the Sabbath?

    If there wasn't, why would Christians be judged by the Sabbath they held if it was the same as the Jews?
     
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    Quantum Windbag,

    re: “It is not the only place that says that...”

    I’m not aware of any other. What do you have in mind?
     

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