Marijuana to Blame for Increased Drug Use in 2009, Government Report Says

Why does everybody always pick on pot and potheads?

Hold marijuana harmless! It is good for you and makes you smarter! It actually PREVENTS addiction to other, *bad* drugs including alcohol and heroin. No, really. If you make a tea out of it and drink it every day at sunset, you will live to 150 years and not look a day over 16.

making tea out of it would be useless as thc is not water soluble it would have no effect it can however be extracted with oils or solvents so the correct procedure would be to make it into a butter and spread it on your toast with a cup of green tea

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUDyVzV_n-Q]HOW TO MAKE CANNABUTTER~Medical Marijuana Butter RECIPE~Ease Your Chronic Pain! - YouTube[/ame]
 
[*]Marijuana is much stronger now than it was decades ago. According to data from the Potency Monitoring Project at the University of Mississippi, the tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) content of commercial-grade marijuana rose from an average of 3.71 percent in 1985 to an average of 5.57 percent in 1998. The average THC content of U.S. produced sinsemilla increased from 3.2 percent in 1977 to 12.8 percent in 1997.7
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If it's less than twice as potent, why does it cost more than 10 times as much? What a rip off. No wonder those folks I know who still partake roll those matchstick doobs.
As if the potency wonks at U/Ms were absolutely certain of all "average" potencies grown here, in Mexico, and in the Middle East. But regardless of the accuracy of their numbers, what they either fail to consider or obediently exclude from their report is the fact that potency levels of marijuana are absolutely irrelevant to the question of potential harm for the following reason.

Consider the difference in potency (proof) ratings of table wine, brandy, beer, bourbon, and tequila. One ounce of tequila will produce an intoxicating effect approximately equal to three cans of beer or two pints of Merlot. Likewise, one bite of a pot brownie (or two hits on a joint) made with hydroponically grown indica sinsemilla will produce approximately the same effect as eating a whole brownie (or smoking a whole joint) made with low-grade ("ditchweed") street-corner marijuana.

What this means is it's not a good idea to drink two pints of tequila or to eat a whole brownie made with indica weed or smoke a whole joint or bowlful of it. And therein lies one very good reason to legalize marijuana. Because if it were legal and sold by licensed dealers, like booze is, the buyer would know exactly what he/she is buying and how much to use to produce the desired effect. That advantage did not exist during alcohol prohibition, which accounts for a lot of illness and death, and the same thing exists under marijuana prohbition.

So the U/Ms folks should add that critical footnote to their propaganda reports and stop trying to scare the ignorant mass. And those who might be receptive to such propaganda should understand that the University of Mississippi receives very attractive government grants to conduct such studies.
 
"Can you argue the fact that pot is addictive for some? "

I often wonder if this isn't a case of "addictive personalities!"?

SOME people are easily addicted to things....

if it isn't pot then it's alcohol
or candy
or sex

or message boards:)
You are quite correct and your opinion is supported by Dr. Lester Grinspoon, MD, Ph.D., Professor of Psychiatric Medicine, Harvard Medical School, in his excellent book, Marijuana, The Forbidden Medicine. (Available from Amazon.)

But in spite of such readily available evidence it is surprising how many nitwits there are who will adhere to the easily debunked Reefer Madness propaganda.
 
National Drug Control Policy Director Gil Kerlikowske
(Credit: JEWEL SAMAD/AFP/Getty Images) A new government report blames increased marijuana use for an uptick in the overall use of illicit drugs among Americans.

The annual National Survey on Drug Use and Health shows the rate of illicit drug use rose from eight percent in 2008 to 8.7 percent in 2009. The survey also found increases in the use of ecstasy and methamphetamines.

Authorities are especially concerned about use of illicit drugs by young people. The survey by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration found 21.2 percent of young adults experimented with illegal drugs in 2009. The report says the trend "was also driven in large part by the use of marijuana."

National Drug Control Policy Director Gil Kerlikowske told CBS Radio News, young people are being exposed to "mixed messages" about marijuana including the idea that it is a medicine.

The "drug czar" said marijuana "may have properties that have medicinal values that should be tested" but he insisted it is not medicine.

Kerlikowske views marijuana as "an entry drug." The survey found that for the first time since 2002, less than half of young people believe using marijuana is harmful.

The Obama administration remains strongly opposed to legalization of marijuana.

CBSNews.com Special Report: Marijuana Nation
Coincidentally, the survey is being released as California voters consider a November ballot issue on legalizing pot.

Proponents believe the move would ease crowded court dockets and weaken Mexican drug cartels. Kerlikowske and many veteran former federal drug enforcement officials reject those ideas.

The president's drug adviser said it is a "false argument" to say marijuana legalization would reduce cartel violence in Mexico. Kerlikowske, a former police chief and undercover narcotics detective, noted, "Taking one small part of the (cartel) enterprise, marijuana away from them isn't going to change them."

He concedes the drug gangs south of the border can not be totally defeated but he believes "their impact and their violence can be reduced."

While the report emphasizes the detrimental effects of marijuana, Kerlikowske says abuse of prescription drugs rises to the top of his concerns because, "young people don't perceive them as dangerous or addictive."

He said the availability of prescription medications in home medicine cabinets often makes them widely available and attractive to young people. The non-medical use of prescription drugs notched up slightly to nearly three percent of the population.

The annual survey offered some encouraging news. It showed decreasing levels of tobacco use to a new low level of 23.3 percent. But the report warned, "The pace of improvement is stagnating."

The administration's drug control strategy emphasizes prevention and treatment along with law enforcement. Kerlikowske told CBS News, "We have had a focus of a criminal justice lens on drug abuse for quite a while." He added, "It should be a blend" that includes prevention and education.

The administration is seeking a 13 percent increase in funding for the federal drug abuse prevention effort.

The drug control policy chief rejects the term, "War on Drugs."

He said, "If we approach it with the same level of complexity that we approach things like cancer, I think we're better off than telling the American public, here's a bumper sticker to solve your problem."

The survey covers the transition year as President Obama took office. Next year's report will be the first true test of any initial results from the administration's approach to a drug abuse problem that has been a national challenge for decades.

Marijuana to Blame for Increased Drug Use in 2009, Government Report Says - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

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The only way to stop the flow of illegal drugs into the US is to remove the franchisers that are here. Boot out the Mexicans and cut off the flow of illegal drugs. Simple.

More, great evidence on how effective America's "war on drugs" is.

10s of millions of taxpayer's dollars spent and drug use is...rising? HA, we got a winner here.

The only way to stop the flow of illegal drugs into the US is to remove the franchisers that are here. Boot out the Mexicans and cut off the flow of illegal drugs. Simple.[/
Care to explain what's "simple" about kicking Mexicans out of Mexico? (That, and many other south American countries are where the drugs actually come from)

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Why does everybody always pick on pot and potheads?

Hold marijuana harmless! It is good for you and makes you smarter! It actually PREVENTS addiction to other, *bad* drugs including alcohol and heroin. No, really. If you make a tea out of it and drink it every day at sunset, you will live to 150 years and not look a day over 16.

making tea out of it would be useless as thc is not water soluble it would have no effect it can however be extracted with oils or solvents so the correct procedure would be to make it into a butter and spread it on your toast with a cup of green tea

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUDyVzV_n-Q]HOW TO MAKE CANNABUTTER~Medical Marijuana Butter RECIPE~Ease Your Chronic Pain! - YouTube[/ame]

High proof (190+) Alcohol can be used to extract THC, or so i've heard.
 
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National Drug Control Policy Director Gil Kerlikowske
(Credit: JEWEL SAMAD/AFP/Getty Images) A new government report blames increased marijuana use for an uptick in the overall use of illicit drugs among Americans.

The annual National Survey on Drug Use and Health shows the rate of illicit drug use rose from eight percent in 2008 to 8.7 percent in 2009. The survey also found increases in the use of ecstasy and methamphetamines.

Authorities are especially concerned about use of illicit drugs by young people. The survey by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration found 21.2 percent of young adults experimented with illegal drugs in 2009. The report says the trend "was also driven in large part by the use of marijuana."

National Drug Control Policy Director Gil Kerlikowske told CBS Radio News, young people are being exposed to "mixed messages" about marijuana including the idea that it is a medicine.

The "drug czar" said marijuana "may have properties that have medicinal values that should be tested" but he insisted it is not medicine.

Kerlikowske views marijuana as "an entry drug." The survey found that for the first time since 2002, less than half of young people believe using marijuana is harmful.

The Obama administration remains strongly opposed to legalization of marijuana.

CBSNews.com Special Report: Marijuana Nation
Coincidentally, the survey is being released as California voters consider a November ballot issue on legalizing pot.

Proponents believe the move would ease crowded court dockets and weaken Mexican drug cartels. Kerlikowske and many veteran former federal drug enforcement officials reject those ideas.

The president's drug adviser said it is a "false argument" to say marijuana legalization would reduce cartel violence in Mexico. Kerlikowske, a former police chief and undercover narcotics detective, noted, "Taking one small part of the (cartel) enterprise, marijuana away from them isn't going to change them."

He concedes the drug gangs south of the border can not be totally defeated but he believes "their impact and their violence can be reduced."

While the report emphasizes the detrimental effects of marijuana, Kerlikowske says abuse of prescription drugs rises to the top of his concerns because, "young people don't perceive them as dangerous or addictive."

He said the availability of prescription medications in home medicine cabinets often makes them widely available and attractive to young people. The non-medical use of prescription drugs notched up slightly to nearly three percent of the population.

The annual survey offered some encouraging news. It showed decreasing levels of tobacco use to a new low level of 23.3 percent. But the report warned, "The pace of improvement is stagnating."

The administration's drug control strategy emphasizes prevention and treatment along with law enforcement. Kerlikowske told CBS News, "We have had a focus of a criminal justice lens on drug abuse for quite a while." He added, "It should be a blend" that includes prevention and education.

The administration is seeking a 13 percent increase in funding for the federal drug abuse prevention effort.

The drug control policy chief rejects the term, "War on Drugs."

He said, "If we approach it with the same level of complexity that we approach things like cancer, I think we're better off than telling the American public, here's a bumper sticker to solve your problem."

The survey covers the transition year as President Obama took office. Next year's report will be the first true test of any initial results from the administration's approach to a drug abuse problem that has been a national challenge for decades.

Marijuana to Blame for Increased Drug Use in 2009, Government Report Says - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

The only way to stop the flow of illegal drugs into the US is to remove the franchisers that are here. Boot out the Mexicans and cut off the flow of illegal drugs. Simple.

More, great evidence on how effective America's "war on drugs" is.

10s of millions of taxpayer's dollars spent and drug use is...rising? HA, we got a winner here.

The only way to stop the flow of illegal drugs into the US is to remove the franchisers that are here. Boot out the Mexicans and cut off the flow of illegal drugs. Simple.[/
Care to explain what's "simple" about kicking Mexicans out of Mexico? (That, and many other south American countries are where the drugs actually come from)

_______________________________________________
Why does everybody always pick on pot and potheads?

Hold marijuana harmless! It is good for you and makes you smarter! It actually PREVENTS addiction to other, *bad* drugs including alcohol and heroin. No, really. If you make a tea out of it and drink it every day at sunset, you will live to 150 years and not look a day over 16.

making tea out of it would be useless as thc is not water soluble it would have no effect it can however be extracted with oils or solvents so the correct procedure would be to make it into a butter and spread it on your toast with a cup of green tea

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUDyVzV_n-Q]HOW TO MAKE CANNABUTTER~Medical Marijuana Butter RECIPE~Ease Your Chronic Pain! - YouTube[/ame]

High proof (190+) Alcohol can be used to extract THC, or so i've heard.

Indeed...then the is Alcohol slowly heated and evaporated if it is done properly you get a very potent oil extract called honey oil that is clear like water and taste like honey
 
And the Ghestapo right still supports the retarded war on pot. It's less dangerous than beer and will cost the right millions of votes in the next few election cycles. But republicans aren't exactly know for being smart.
The Obama administration remains strongly opposed to legalization of marijuana

Obama changed parties ?:eusa_whistle:

I don't think so. He's still a Republocrat, right?
 
National Drug Control Policy Director Gil Kerlikowske
(Credit: JEWEL SAMAD/AFP/Getty Images) A new government report blames increased marijuana use for an uptick in the overall use of illicit drugs among Americans.

The annual National Survey on Drug Use and Health shows the rate of illicit drug use rose from eight percent in 2008 to 8.7 percent in 2009. The survey also found increases in the use of ecstasy and methamphetamines.

Authorities are especially concerned about use of illicit drugs by young people. The survey by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration found 21.2 percent of young adults experimented with illegal drugs in 2009. The report says the trend "was also driven in large part by the use of marijuana."

National Drug Control Policy Director Gil Kerlikowske told CBS Radio News, young people are being exposed to "mixed messages" about marijuana including the idea that it is a medicine.

The "drug czar" said marijuana "may have properties that have medicinal values that should be tested" but he insisted it is not medicine.

Kerlikowske views marijuana as "an entry drug." The survey found that for the first time since 2002, less than half of young people believe using marijuana is harmful.

The Obama administration remains strongly opposed to legalization of marijuana.

CBSNews.com Special Report: Marijuana Nation
Coincidentally, the survey is being released as California voters consider a November ballot issue on legalizing pot.

Proponents believe the move would ease crowded court dockets and weaken Mexican drug cartels. Kerlikowske and many veteran former federal drug enforcement officials reject those ideas.

The president's drug adviser said it is a "false argument" to say marijuana legalization would reduce cartel violence in Mexico. Kerlikowske, a former police chief and undercover narcotics detective, noted, "Taking one small part of the (cartel) enterprise, marijuana away from them isn't going to change them."

He concedes the drug gangs south of the border can not be totally defeated but he believes "their impact and their violence can be reduced."

While the report emphasizes the detrimental effects of marijuana, Kerlikowske says abuse of prescription drugs rises to the top of his concerns because, "young people don't perceive them as dangerous or addictive."

He said the availability of prescription medications in home medicine cabinets often makes them widely available and attractive to young people. The non-medical use of prescription drugs notched up slightly to nearly three percent of the population.

The annual survey offered some encouraging news. It showed decreasing levels of tobacco use to a new low level of 23.3 percent. But the report warned, "The pace of improvement is stagnating."

The administration's drug control strategy emphasizes prevention and treatment along with law enforcement. Kerlikowske told CBS News, "We have had a focus of a criminal justice lens on drug abuse for quite a while." He added, "It should be a blend" that includes prevention and education.

The administration is seeking a 13 percent increase in funding for the federal drug abuse prevention effort.

The drug control policy chief rejects the term, "War on Drugs."

He said, "If we approach it with the same level of complexity that we approach things like cancer, I think we're better off than telling the American public, here's a bumper sticker to solve your problem."

The survey covers the transition year as President Obama took office. Next year's report will be the first true test of any initial results from the administration's approach to a drug abuse problem that has been a national challenge for decades.

Marijuana to Blame for Increased Drug Use in 2009, Government Report Says - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

The only way to stop the flow of illegal drugs into the US is to remove the franchisers that are here. Boot out the Mexicans and cut off the flow of illegal drugs. Simple.

More, great evidence on how effective America's "war on drugs" is.

10s of millions of taxpayer's dollars spent and drug use is...rising? HA, we got a winner here.


Care to explain what's "simple" about kicking Mexicans out of Mexico? (That, and many other south American countries are where the drugs actually come from)

_______________________________________________
making tea out of it would be useless as thc is not water soluble it would have no effect it can however be extracted with oils or solvents so the correct procedure would be to make it into a butter and spread it on your toast with a cup of green tea

HOW TO MAKE CANNABUTTER~Medical Marijuana Butter RECIPE~Ease Your Chronic Pain! - YouTube

High proof (190+) Alcohol can be used to extract THC, or so i've heard.

Indeed...then the is Alcohol slowly heated and evaporated if it is done properly you get a very potent oil extract called honey oil that is clear like water and taste like honey

Yea, if you got that much spare weed.
 
Oh for sure lots of things are addictive, but addiction alone isn't reason enough to outlaw something, only if it has other dangerous properties should that be considered. I am merely stating that those who say that pot absolutely isn't addictive are lying.
The clinical definition of (drug) addiction is a compelling dependency on a chemical the repetitive use of which has imparted an actual alteration to a component of one's neurochemistry. There is nothing in the chemistry of marijuana (TetraHydroCannabinol) which imparts this dependency.

There are certain substances which if used repetitively over a long period of time can be habit-forming but a habit is not an addiction in the clinical sense of the word. Marijuana, if used consistently over time, can form a habit of approximately the same level of compulsion as caffeine or sugar. This level of compulsion is by no means a dependency and may easily be overcome by exercising moderate self-control over a relatively short period of time.

A third category of compulsive substance craving is the psychological addiction in which an individual who manifests the disorder known to behaviorists as the addictive personality is disabled by the imagined effects of a full-blown chemical addiction. Such individuals become psychologically addicted to everything from soft drinks to sex and are sure to become psychologically addicted to marijuana. But this imagined compulsion is not and should not be regarded as drug addiction in the clinical sense of the word.

Bottom line: Marijuana is not an addictive drug.
 
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The idea that dealers lace their pot with expensive harder drugs and then do not tell people it is in there. Is laughable. exposes your intense ignorance about the subject.
Sorry Charles. But you're quite mistaken.

While I haven't seen any marijuana since the early 1980s I can tell you for certain it was quite common back in the seventies for low-level street dealers to spray a pound of cheap "ditchweed," worth about $40 an ounce, with about $20 worth of liquefied heroin, and push it off on rubes as "primo" for $100 an ounce or more. The practice is called "sugaring."

Perhaps it was unheard of in your location but, as I said, it was not uncommon in the New York City area.
 
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the idea that dealers lace their pot with expensive harder drugs and then do not tell people it is in there. Is laughable. Exposes your intense ignorance about the subject.
sorry charles. But you're quite mistaken.

While i haven't seen any marijuana since the early 1980s i can tell you for certain it was quite common back in the seventies for low-level street dealers to spray a pound of cheap "ditchweed," worth about $40 an ounce, with about $20 worth of liquefied heroin, and push it off on rubes as "primo" for $100 an ounce or more. The practice is called "sugaring."

perhaps it was unheard of in your location but, as i said, it was not uncommon in the new york city area.

thats retarded...if you had junk in the 1980s in NY..you did mot need to trick people to buy it.. Heroin was much more under ground people with a supply of heroin could sell it as heroin easy enough
 
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Btw ..the term ditch weed came from the plants that still grow in ditches in some farming areas to this day..after the ww2 hemp for victory campaign was ended and they changed back to other crops wild plants continued to grow in those areas
 
War on Drugs is a complete failure. All it has done is make billions for criminal gangs and flood the countries they live in with violence and crooked politicians.
You could ban and make illegal tooth paste and college kids would be buying it and brushing their teeth 100 times a night on weekends.
Twisty is about harmless. NO where as bad for you as nicotine, sweet tea and fried chicken.
We hand out dope like candy to kids for ADD which is far worse than twisty.
Americans are dumb asses. We have a cash crop ALREADY here and we make it illegal.
With 100 other uses for it other than smoking.
 
thats retarded...if you had junk in the 1980s in NY..you did mot need to trick people to buy it.. Heroin was much more under ground people with a supply of heroin could sell it as heroin easy enough
While I defer to your agricultural expertise on the subject of marijuana cultivation I respectfully suggest that if you ever visit New York City, especially around the Brooklyn area, and someone offers to sell you really nice bridge at a very good price -- don't buy it.
 
thats retarded...if you had junk in the 1980s in NY..you did mot need to trick people to buy it.. Heroin was much more under ground people with a supply of heroin could sell it as heroin easy enough
While I defer to your agricultural expertise on the subject of marijuana cultivation I respectfully suggest that if you ever visit New York City, especially around the Brooklyn area, and someone offers to sell you really nice bridge at a very good price -- don't buy it.

people have mixed cheap pcp with low grade weed..but heroin is to valued
I would need to see you post one reference from anywhere to "sugering" cheap weed with heroin to sell to the unwittng ,otherwise I am not buying it any more than that bridge you speak of
 

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